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Aren't Claws Too Weak?
iago:
--- Quote from: biff_dyskolos on April 26, 2010, 06:21:40 PM ---Claws gives you natural weapons. My assumption was that there is an implied skill substitution here. Your Fists skill now defends against Weapons as well as Fists (you are armed) and Fists is now effective against armoured opponents.
I could be reading things into the text that isn't intended. If so, I have a new house rule.
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That is not intended.
luminos:
--- Quote from: biff_dyskolos on April 26, 2010, 06:21:40 PM ---
Except for Close in Defence, Fists only defend against Fists and Fists is only useful against unarmoured opponents. Whereas Weapons defends against Weapons and Fists and works against armoured opponents.
Claws gives you natural weapons. My assumption was that there is an implied skill substitution here. Your Fists skill now defends against Weapons as well as Fists (you are armed) and Fists is now effective against armoured opponents.
I could be reading things into the text that isn't intended. If so, I have a new house rule.
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Fists can defend against some weapons as well, and sometimes against guns. The only time fists can't be used as a defense is if the range of the weapon prevents you from doing so (a sword, or a gun from another zone). There is nothing saying fists don't affect armored foes.
Claws would not provide justification for using fists to defend against swords because they still face the difference in reach problem.
iago:
The fix is in; I'm bowing out of this thread.
Deadmanwalking:
What they said. Claws are cool, but they don't really justify defending from things you can't with Fists. What do you do, bite the sword? That...has logical issues.
If you want to defend with Fists vs. attacks it otherwise can't there's the Footwork stunt for that (which is, BTW, an awesome Stunt).
--- Quote from: iago on April 26, 2010, 06:29:53 PM ---The fix is in; I'm bowing out of this thread.
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Understood. And thanks again for being just generally awesome. :)
Biff Dyskolos:
--- Quote from: luminos on April 26, 2010, 06:27:42 PM ---Fists can defend against some weapons as well, and sometimes against guns. The only time fists can't be used as a defense is if the range of the weapon prevents you from doing so (a sword, or a gun from another zone). There is nothing saying fists don't affect armored foes.
Claws would not provide justification for using fists to defend against swords because they still face the difference in reach problem.
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Granted. These things are mentioned in the Close in Defence trapping of the Fist skill. That is why I said, "Except for Close in Defence,..."
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