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Dismissing Conjurations (which has turned into another Laws of Magic thread)

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RogerC:
Can a spellcaster dismiss/dispel their own conjurations at will?  If not, what sort of action would it be?

(I'm thinking particularly of the case where you conjure up a dagger for the purposes of killing someone with it, and then turning the evidence into ectoplasmic goo.  Of course, if you get stopped by the cops along the way, you might want to turn it to goo right then.)

I'm pretty happy just handwaving it on the side of allowing it, but wondering if there's any explicit rules for it, or any explicit examples in the canon.


Cheers,
Roger

luminos:
I'd say that you can let the caster dismiss their own conjured items.  I mean, its their will that is holding it into form, so if they draw their will back from it, it would be gone, yes?

As a side question, would killing with a conjured dagger be a first law violation?  I'd say yes, but I'm looking for opinions.

Deadmanwalking:
I'd go with no, the essential element of belief in the rightness of murder that makes a Lawbreaker isn't necessary to conjuring a dagger, nor stabbing someone with it. It's in the same category as a werewolf killing someone with their fangs, IMO.

Moriden:

--- Quote ---I'd go with no, the essential element of belief in the rightness of murder that makes a Lawbreaker isn't necessary to conjuring a dagger, nor stabbing someone with it. It's in the same category as a werewolf killing someone with their fangs, IMO.
--- End quote ---

The key difference is that the fangs aren't a physical manifestation of magic the dagger is. Theirs not much difference between creating a dagger out of magic and stabbing someone and creating a ball of fire and killing someone, the daggers just slower.

Wyrdrune:

--- Quote from: Moriden on April 23, 2010, 09:21:12 PM ---The key difference is that the fangs aren't a physical manifestation of magic the dagger is. Theirs not much difference between creating a dagger out of magic and stabbing someone and creating a ball of fire and killing someone, the daggers just slower.

--- End quote ---

on the other side where's the difference to taking 15 minutes to walk down to a shop and buy a dagger and making a 15 minute conjuration of a dagger? it is a difficult question...

but I have another question along that line - how about summonings? I mean - a wizard tries to summon a demon - he gets the containment spell alright and reckons, he will need it until noon tomorrow. let's say our wizard is not so good at binding after he summoned the nasty. let's say he fails at binding, but that is ok, since the containment spell still has some time good. then he is distracted, whatever, got called to a friend in need - pick your scenario - and all the time the clock is ticking.

meanwhile our demon is somewhat imprisoned in the wizard's conjuring circle, but get's his laugh when the little wizard tries to bind him. now the question: can a wizard, who has not bound the demon/spirit/whatever make it go away? say the demon looks at its watch and thinks it has nothing important to do than to wait for the containment spell winking out, and eating the wizard then, or whatevs demons do.

our wizard comes back totally exhausted from the emergency, 5 minutes to noon, just remembering there might be a demon who is set loose really soon.

feasible scenario?

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