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Dismissing Conjurations (which has turned into another Laws of Magic thread)
KOFFEYKID:
Im going to say Yes, you can dismiss your own conjurations (see redirecting spell energy on page 260), in my opinion it would just be redirecting the energy holding the conjuration together in a safe way (ie not using it for an attack or just letting it bleed into the environment).
As to the second question, Luminos is asking because of my character who has access to soulfire, and uses a Rote Spell that conjures (soulfire lets me use conjuration at evocation speed, neato) a sword. So Im interested in your opinions as well.
Moriden:
--- Quote ---and uses a Rote Spell that conjures (soulfire lets me use conjuration at evocation speed, neato) a sword
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What you really need to ask your self is if i stabbed you with a sword made of fire, would you consider it using magic to kill you?. if yes then conjuring a weapon to kill someone counts especially if your using it at evocation speeds. because you have no separation from the intent and the action. now weather the sword i actually use. "appears" to be made of plastic, metal, unobtonium or fire. doesn't matter because those are all simply thematic descriptions in every case the conjured sword is made of magic.
Now if your useing soulfire to make a sword and you happen to kill a human with it your probably in deep shit regardless of weather or not its a violation. "god" has some pretty firm rules against murder. and vengenence. niether of which permits a person to take matter into there own hands.
KOFFEYKID:
Soulfire is just the name, the effects arent always on fire, like when Harry made the super had to crush the denarien. It wasn't a flaming hand of "oh wow, that burns the skin", it was just a super large hand.
As for the bit about god getting mad at you for killing humans, I seem to recall quite a few passages in the bible that have to deal with killing people, or stoning children to death for disobeying their parents. It all depends on how far you want to take some of the stuff in there. :)
Moriden:
--- Quote ---Soulfire is just the name, the effects arent always on fire, like when Harry made the super had to crush the denarien. It wasn't a flaming hand of "oh wow, that burns the skin", it was just a super large hand.
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Reread what i wrote please. i specifically mentioned that what you manifest the sword as materially doesnt matter. what matter sis that it is a creation composed entirely of Magic It might look like steal but its just as magical as if it looked like it was made of fire.
--- Quote ---As for the bit about god getting mad at you for killing humans, I seem to recall quite a few passages in the bible that have to deal with killing people, or stoning children to death for disobeying their parents. It all depends on how far you want to take some of the stuff in there.
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Are you playing a jew or a christian? if youd like to go hunt down all of thouse go smite this passages youll find that there are one and all in the old testament. Jesus put that all behind you all. The ten commandments say clearly "though shalt not kill" jesus clearly says " do not take vengeance for that is the lords, he also says to turn the other check. Every reference to violence in the new testament is about moving beyond it, forgiving, and passing up your anger to god for it is inly through him that you can be pure.
And yes there are some gruesome punishments for crimes in the old testament, the problem with quting them is not only what i already said above in that there in no way actually parts of the christian doctrine except as matters of record, but even historically most of those laws where products of the time and place as opposed to religious laws. I think that if you went and conferred with any religious scholar weather he be christian [of whatever flavor] or a rabbi. they would agree that it is inherently against the tenants of there religion to kill , it may be permitted in certain situations but it is still a sin.Just to be perfectly clear i am in no way a christian or a jew, or even close to either. i personally think that murder is perfectly acceptable[morally, there's still the law to deal with[. however that doesn't change the doctrine and beliefs of the religions that would be granting soul-fire in the dresdenverse.
Deadmanwalking:
Yes, because werewolves get Lawbreaker for killing with their (magically conjured) claws and fangs. Oh, wait, no they don't. There's no difference between a Werewolf's magically conjured weaponry, and a Wizard's, or at least there shouldn't be.
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