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Evocation: Control is better than Power
Biff Dyskolos:
As pointed out above, Discipline may be better than Conviction for attack evocations but not for no-attack evocations. So which is better will depend upon each caster's style.
Things might be more clear-cut in the context of foci. Offensive Control is better than Offensive Power and Defencive Power is better than Defencive Control.
Shinto_Knight:
--- Quote from: SoulCatcher78 on April 20, 2010, 03:33:03 PM ---Conviction = weapon value.
Attack with Discipline. + dice roll = to hit
Defend with resisting skill + roll = hit or miss
If it's a hit then damage = weapon value + shift difference (on to hit vs defense) - resistance (armor/toughness/etc).
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i was confused by the example in the book (YS.251) because, harry got a +4 on his dicipline roll that he suplimented by invoking his aspects, and the vampire also got a +4 on his block. also under "HOW to do it" nothing is mentioned about adding the dicipline roll into the total shifts. it was confusing to me and my brain :-\
JustinS:
--- Quote from: SaintAndSinner on April 21, 2010, 06:12:20 PM ---I'm definitely going to test this out with our group soon. I anticipate it'll be nice but not often used. They're always trying to squeeze more power rather than less. Might encourage a couple of maneuver attempts though...
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Please post how it winds up working out. I got the idea to let the game simulate wardens waiding though zombie hoards and the like, but have not tested it myself.
iago:
--- Quote from: Shinto_Knight on April 21, 2010, 10:07:04 PM ---i was confused by the example in the book (YS.251) because, harry got a +4 on his dicipline roll that he suplimented by invoking his aspects, and the vampire also got a +4 on his block. also under "HOW to do it" nothing is mentioned about adding the dicipline roll into the total shifts. it was confusing to me and my brain :-\
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It's a standard attack roll. Margin of success determines the base number of shifts. The shifts in the spell are all about establishing a Weapon:X value.
SoulCatcher78:
--- Quote from: Shinto_Knight on April 21, 2010, 10:07:04 PM ---i was confused by the example in the book (YS.251) because, harry got a +4 on his dicipline roll that he suplimented by invoking his aspects, and the vampire also got a +4 on his block. also under "HOW to do it" nothing is mentioned about adding the dicipline roll into the total shifts. it was confusing to me and my brain :-\
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8 discipline to hit - 4 dodge = 4 shifts + weapon 8 = 12 - 1 toughness =11 total
Pretty sure this is how the math works out in that example
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