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Frustrated Question on Morality and denied characater concepts in Dresden RPG
iago:
--- Quote from: Nyogtha on April 02, 2009, 03:23:38 PM ---I looked up a word I hope its right, Thematically? Themitcally speaking if you lose your refersh points the supernaural power (in the in game terms) you have aquired overwhelms you and makes you adhere to a "archtype" (looked up that word too) and you no longer have a choice but must play out that archtype that the supernatural power you have absconded with gave you?
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Yes! That's *perfect*. You've got it absolutely right.
Nyogtha:
Understanding is very pleasing I thank you for enlightnement in this and I wish to thank you deeply I understand how the spirtual side of your rules work with the spirtual side of the game, it is pleaseing :), so you would see Bianca while she has feelings cant help but be a hungerer for monstrosities? Would you think she aware of her lack of choice or is that somthing she does not know?
iago:
--- Quote from: Nyogtha on April 02, 2009, 03:29:34 PM ---Understanding is very pleasing I thank you for enlightnement in this and I wish to thank you deeply I understand how the spirtual side of your rules work with the spirtual side of the game, it is pleaseing :), so you would see Bianca while she has feelings cant help but be a hungerer for monstrosities? Would you think she aware of her lack of choice or is that somthing she does not know?
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Hard to say. At that point it might just not enter into the possibility of thought. Does Queen Mab have an idea that she can't help but be Queen Mab? Probably not: she is who she is, so fully and innately, that being otherwise just doesn't manifest as an option.
But the closer someone is to "humanity", maybe the more evident the strictures of nature are. But that's not something I'd want to paint with a broad brush -- I'd prefer that to be a decision about how a character's lack of free will manifests on a character-by-character basis.
Dan from Chicago:
--- Quote from: iago on April 02, 2009, 02:13:20 PM ---Well-intentioned folks like the Summer Lady, Lily, have a lot of power, but no freedom.
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I can see not wanting to allow someone to play the Summer Lady from a gaming perspective, and perhaps I missed it, but I haven't seen anything in the books to indicate that Lily is more constrained by her power or nature then Fix is, and the Summer Knight is playable.
The only time where Fix acted and Lily didn't that I can think of is when she didn't attack Winter's forces in Proven Guilty when Fix did, and the explanation was that if she acted it would be a major provocation. I interpreted that as having the ability to attack, but not being willing to accept the consequences, i.e. making a choice.
It seems like Eldest Brother Gruff would be a good example of someone unable to make a choice. He didn't want to attack Dresden, but was unable to do anything else until he was presented with a situation which reordered his priorities.
Perhaps I'm splitting hairs.
iago:
It's a broadsword more than a scalpel when it comes to applying the perspective.
Lily has a LOT of stuff she CAN'T do, because she's now constrained by the pacts of Summer.
As a Summer Knight, Fix is actually still mortal, and technically retains some freedom of choice. There being SOME free will available to the Knights is part of the point of why they exist -- it enables them to act OUTSIDE their nature, in the Courts' interests, in theory.
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