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Jim's stand on fic?
DragonFire:
--- Quote from: Shecky on January 20, 2009, 12:19:14 AM ---This goes to my point; I feel it was intended to be this way, to show that the people in the plot are unfocused, as discussed above. The Rand-machine, the Dragon's situation, was smaller earlier in the story; as such, it was easier to maneuver. But once everything gets too big, people's minds simply can't wrap themselves around it and retreat to the safety of the familiar - i.e., personal power, wishes, etc. - and it all falls apart. It's not that Jordan's writing became unfocused in my thought; it's that the characters themselves became unfocused.
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Ah ok.....yeah I didn't get taht feeling.
I can see he was trying to show a world falling apart...but at the same time....it just dragged on too long.
Guardian 452:
--- Quote from: Mickey Finn on January 20, 2009, 12:12:32 AM ---As for Jim, remember folks, he's not stomping on fan fic, he's not jackbooting about...he is asking not to know, so he doesn't HAVE to, by law, take action. IE, he doesn't give a damn, and would rather not be made to give a damn.
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Going waaaay back in this thread, this is why I said you have to ask Jim himself if you get the chance to see him in person.
His response to the question of fanfic was actually a lot of fun.
As for later, I was responding to the comment about why authors have to come down so hard when they do know about it!
Starbeam:
--- Quote from: Shecky on January 20, 2009, 12:19:14 AM ---This goes to my point; I feel it was intended to be this way, to show that the people in the plot are unfocused, as discussed above. The Rand-machine, the Dragon's situation, was smaller earlier in the story; as such, it was easier to maneuver. But once everything gets too big, people's minds simply can't wrap themselves around it and retreat to the safety of the familiar - i.e., personal power, wishes, etc. - and it all falls apart. It's not that Jordan's writing became unfocused in my thought; it's that the characters themselves became unfocused.
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This actually makes quite a bit of sense. I remember reading an interview with Jordan several years ago. He said that he knew exactly how the story was going to end, and has known since he started writing. One thing I really remember that sticks out is that he said there were going to be quite a few loose ends that weren't going to be tied up. Because that's how real life is. Everything's not tied up in a neat little bow with no loose ends at all like Lucas did with the SW prequels.
Shecky:
--- Quote from: Starbeam on January 20, 2009, 01:25:04 AM ---This actually makes quite a bit of sense. I remember reading an interview with Jordan several years ago. He said that he knew exactly how the story was going to end, and has known since he started writing. One thing I really remember that sticks out is that he said there were going to be quite a few loose ends that weren't going to be tied up. Because that's how real life is. Everything's not tied up in a neat little bow with no loose ends at all like Lucas did with the SW prequels.
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Exactly. DF, it feels that way even to me... but that's like dealing with the government. Too real and too icky.
DragonFire:
--- Quote from: Shecky on January 20, 2009, 02:59:06 AM ---Exactly. DF, it feels that way even to me... but that's like dealing with the government. Too real and too icky.
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Eh...I don't read for it to be like real life!!! :)
Basically, while I agree, that sort of thing would happen in real life, he suddenly sprung it out in the middle of a 10+ book series.
He had obstacles and his hero's overcoming them, then all of sudden, his hero's are practically impotent, there's thousands of side plots, tons of new characters involved in said side plots......to the point where his books chapters jump from character to character.
LIke I said, it feels to me like he just lost control, rather than trying to simulate real life.
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