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Hannah Asher
« on: November 20, 2023, 03:05:16 AM »
Still alive?! WOJ... Did I hear that right?!...and she isn't happy with Dresden...

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2023, 12:44:14 PM »
Still alive?! WOJ... Did I hear that right?!...and she isn't happy with Dresden...

  If she is alive she survived being squished under a ton of molten rock.  Lasciel survived because I doubt there is a way to destroy the coin.  However one then wonders what Hades is going to do about the coin?  That's my opinion from the evidence in Skin Game, however there may be a WOJ out there that says otherwise.. If there is then it will be interesting how bringing her back will be handled.

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2023, 04:56:17 PM »
If she is alive she survived being squished under a ton of molten rock...

Remember, Harry survived being similarly-buried, in the duel vs. the Ick & the Rampire (in the Erlking's hall).  So I don't doubt that Jim might conceive a similar scene for Hanna's survival.

The other bit of "Harry Did it First" lore I find relevant is how Harry used his Fuego spell (twice, that I recall) to insta-chill things:  an ice-slick under Scarecrow-fetch's feet, and an ice-bridge in the harbor, to escape the ghouls' assault.

Harry says that it's just the physics of the spell, which grabs ambient heat and concentrates it to make fire for him; all he needed to do was concentrate the area the heat came from, and he got an equal-and-opposite freeze.

So I don't doubt that Hannah's fire-skills (which are better than Harry's) could have formed a cooled and solidified-rock shelter out of the falling molten rock.
 

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2023, 06:54:07 PM »
Well, we do know that coin holders get incredible regeneration as one of their benefits. If she somehow did survive the burial, she was not separated from Lasciel's coin so she could have healed over time. I mean, River Shoulders says that the Geno made it out and his death was far more convincing in my mind. Since the hosts are still alive Hades may be unable to hold them on a technicality of being unable to restrict the Fallen.

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2023, 08:23:13 PM »
Well, we do know that coin holders get incredible regeneration as one of their benefits. If she somehow did survive the burial, she was not separated from Lasciel's coin so she could have healed over time. I mean, River Shoulders says that the Geno made it out and his death was far more convincing in my mind. Since the hosts are still alive Hades may be unable to hold them on a technicality of being unable to restrict the Fallen.

Actually I think Nick is the only one who can "regenerate" mainly because of the noose around his neck.  Usually, the other hosts can be killed and their coins fall away to be picked up by a KotC or the next poor smuck who falls for their line off bull.

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2023, 10:05:08 PM »
Actually I think Nick is the only one who can "regenerate" mainly because of the noose around his neck.  Usually, the other hosts can be killed and their coins fall away to be picked up by a KotC or the next poor smuck who falls for their line off bull.

How do you explain Marcone recovering from a broken neck in Battle Ground? Or the Genosquaw regrowing its eyes after Grey clawed them out? Both of them recovered in minutes.

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2023, 10:19:58 PM »
How do you explain Marcone recovering from a broken neck in Battle Ground? Or the Genosquaw regrowing its eyes after Grey clawed them out? Both of them recovered in minutes.

There are limits though, if there weren't they couldn't be killed at all.  With a few exceptions there seems to be a regular turn over of hosts.. Who hosted Lasciel's coin before Hannah?  Namshiel was killed which allowed Marcone to pick up his coin.  There is a few like Nick and I believe his wife who have managed to live for thousands of years.. Nick's daughter didn't jump back to life, dead is still dead..

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2023, 10:37:49 AM »
Well WOJ she is coin bearer and not a happy camper Dresden watch your back... maybe Binder might save Harry in some twisted scenario for dramatic effect

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2023, 11:58:39 AM »
Well WOJ she is coin bearer and not a happy camper Dresden watch your back... maybe Binder might save Harry in some twisted scenario for dramatic effect
mmm, I do wonder about the future of someone who's nickname is Binder, specifically because of Raphael(?)the demon Binder 🤔
Don't know what he could do, but fallen are technically angelic ghosts..

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2023, 07:39:21 PM »
Still alive?! WOJ... Did I hear that right?!...and she isn't happy with Dresden...
Well WOJ she is coin bearer and not a happy camper Dresden watch your back...

Huh ...

Can folks link the WoJ for me?


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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2023, 04:17:42 AM »
My theory is she becomes the first drnarian to be redeemed by Harry and the knights. Assuming we don't count Lash and Santa was off-screen.

Woj is somewhere in here. Not sure where.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/17z9tg8/qa_at_ubookstore/?share_id=2l-6HtV-1rnFdg6-JPpbt&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&rdt=45375

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2023, 06:52:51 PM »
My theory is she becomes the first drnarian to be redeemed by Harry and the knights. Assuming we don't count Lash and Santa was off-screen.

Woj is somewhere in here. Not sure where.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/17z9tg8/qa_at_ubookstore/?share_id=2l-6HtV-1rnFdg6-JPpbt&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&rdt=45375

Naw, I  think it will be Nic... Why? Because he has the Holy Grail.

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2023, 07:16:59 PM »
Naw, I  think it will be Nic... Why? Because he has the Holy Grail.

The KotC's regularly redeem KotBD's.  Sanya's one!

I think there might be a redemption for Thorny!

Marcone is gonna take up a Sword (specifically, Amoracchius (Excaliber)).  He has been cast very much in the role of "Arthur" (mortal ruler of Chicago) to Harry's "Merlin" (wizard of Chicago) in several ways.

Thorny was explicitly fighting against Ethniu, and on the same side as Odin ... and... all the KotC's?!?

Looks to me like Thorny is on a redemption-arc of sorts.
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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2023, 07:24:40 PM »
Still alive?! WOJ... Did I hear that right?!...and she isn't happy with Dresden...

D'you have any recollection of where in the vid that was?

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Re: Hannah Asher
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2023, 11:20:39 PM »
Naw, I  think it will be Nic... Why? Because he has the Holy Grail.

Huh fair point.

The KotC's regularly redeem KotBD's.  Sanya's one!

I think there might be a redemption for Thorny!

Marcone is gonna take up a Sword (specifically, Amoracchius (Excaliber)).  He has been cast very much in the role of "Arthur" (mortal ruler of Chicago) to Harry's "Merlin" (wizard of Chicago) in several ways.

Thorny was explicitly fighting against Ethniu, and on the same side as Odin ... and... all the KotC's?!?

Looks to me like Thorny is on a redemption-arc of sorts.

So Lasciel Nicodemus and Namshiel are rhe top 3 contenders for redemption?