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Offline heidi_storage

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So how is BG?
« on: September 30, 2020, 04:33:30 PM »
Long-time lurker, first-time poster. I will not be receiving Battle Ground until Christmas (I got Peace Talks for my birthday). Please tell me, without spoilers, how is this book? How does it compare to PT, and to other books in the series? Did it answer questions raised in PT? Thanks!

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Re: So how is BG?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2020, 12:20:50 AM »
Welcome. BG was way better than PT. I would put it in the top 5 through 10 of the series.
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Re: So how is BG?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2020, 08:16:26 PM »
You know how the books normally have to go into detail and build up to get to the chaos?  Yeah, Peace Talks was the build up, outside the first 7 or 8 chapters, the rest of the book is the battle.  Picture the Chichen Itza battle from Changes an entire book.  Pretty much what he does here.
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Re: So how is BG?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2020, 08:09:22 PM »
Thanks, you two! Looking forward to it.

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Re: So how is BG?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2020, 05:09:56 PM »
Peace Talks was very uneven, painfully so. Battle Ground is also painfully uneven for about 100-150 pages.  Its like it somehow took 500 pages to get to something like a proper Dresden Files book. I'm only up to chapter 23 and its written like a normal Dresden Files book thus far. I don't know if it falls back to shit after this.

The way this book is written is just freaking painful, since it doesn't have the proper set up that a normal Dresden Files book has. Jim wrote what was published as 2 books as 1 book so that's how I'm looking at it. I think the change to the new publisher is the problem since they refused to publish the book as he had written it. IIRC Jim mentioned something about the editing process for this taking quite a while, which is weird since he had mentioned in the past that his books normally don't take  much editing.

What I've finally gotten to from chapter 14 to 23 could have been bigger and better than Changes, but the way you can see the holes where stuff was hacked out makes the whole story suffer to the point its worse than Storm Front.

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Re: So how is BG?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 12:21:56 PM »
I second what sayyadina says. The editing is appalling, and I'd accept a small bet that the editors for the two books were different - there are multiple continuity errors between the two books. Shame, as there are many cool moments that deserve to be in a more carefully polished book. (Book, singular. There's also a lot of waffle that could easily be cut, turning this into a single tight, exciting book).

On the story itself? I'm unimpressed with a lot of the 'development' of various characters. I frankly didn't care whether they won or lost by the end of Battle Ground, I had no attachment to most of the surviving characters.
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Re: So how is BG?
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 06:21:47 AM »
After 2 weeks of "slogging" I made it to Chapter 27.  It reads unevenly, there is an obvious "bromance" involving the author and one character who developed into something akin to a superhero largely off screen over the last 3 books.  It's impossible to keep any timeline in mind and forget remembering where some characters are during battle scenes.  For me, it feels as if the author spent 3 years jotting down epic pieces of battles then sat down at the kitchen table to try and string them together.  The editing is sub par.  Not sure if it's worth the effort to try and read the book all the way through.