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Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2020, 02:43:54 PM »
Honestly the thing I'm most confused about is that Harry doesn't consider Vadderung/Kringle a friend. They've fought alongside each other in atleast 2 battles. He's given good advice, crucial on separate occasions. Plus he seems like a genuinely fun guy,

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Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2020, 03:29:47 PM »
Honestly the thing I'm most confused about is that Harry doesn't consider Vadderung/Kringle a friend. They've fought alongside each other in atleast 2 battles. He's given good advice, crucial on separate occasions. Plus he seems like a genuinely fun guy,

   Perhaps because it is a god/immortal/ mortal type relationship,  he can have a good relationship but the closeness of being true friends isn't a good idea.

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Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2020, 08:18:36 PM »
This says it all. Harry has enough obligations, Mab can have a few too and by celebrating Christmass Harry is actually celebrating winter and strengthen its story.
It really doesn't say anything that we don't already know. We already knew that Harry was celebrating Christmas. We already knew that Mab had obligations to her vassals as of Dead Beat. That's the thing about the Sidhe. They say things that sound like they mean something, but they don't mean what you think they mean.

Honestly the thing I'm most confused about is that Harry doesn't consider Vadderung/Kringle a friend. They've fought alongside each other in atleast 2 battles. He's given good advice, crucial on separate occasions. Plus he seems like a genuinely fun guy,
Until it's time to feed you into a meat grinder. I'm suspicious of Vadderung.

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Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2020, 03:00:45 PM »
Vadderung (if not Kringle) is one of the all-time champions of the Long Game. There's a reason he's helped Harry in the past. He's powerful, he's ancient, and he knows stuff. I cannot wait to see how he'll participate in the Apocalypse Trilogy. I'm not expecting a one-for-one implementation of Ragnarok, mostly because I think some of the key participants have become something else—a point I expect to be explained in greater detail in Body Slam.

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Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2020, 06:50:13 AM »
Vadderung (if not Kringle) is one of the all-time champions of the Long Game. There's a reason he's helped Harry in the past. He's powerful, he's ancient, and he knows stuff. I cannot wait to see how he'll participate in the Apocalypse Trilogy. I'm not expecting a one-for-one implementation of Ragnarok, mostly because I think some of the key participants have become something else—a point I expect to be explained in greater detail in Body Slam.

Harry seems to be a mortal champion of many of the local powers who are fighting or opposing the Outsiders. He has screwed over their plans multiple times (The Black Council/Circle). I assume that Vadderung does not want the Outsiders and their allies, minions, useful idiots to win. Of course he is aiding Harry, at least on occasion.

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Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2020, 12:09:34 PM »
I do not remember where I read this but Odin in the old stories is not just helping his champions to get glory in battle. He can Olson betray his champion and cause his death in battle.

Probably to make sure he dies in battle and can go to walhalla at the height of his power but Odin has his dark side. Ravens are carrion birds after all.

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Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2020, 08:12:40 PM »
Honestly the thing I'm most confused about is that Harry doesn't consider Vadderung/Kringle a friend. They've fought alongside each other in atleast 2 battles. He's given good advice, crucial on separate occasions. Plus he seems like a genuinely fun guy,
Have you befriended any ants lately?