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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #330 on: November 18, 2009, 03:38:51 PM »
First off, Awsom map Pris, However, I do have a question, I thought just from reading the book that the feaverthorn Jungle was nearer Caldron, like somewhere near Bernard holt. Or was that a different set of woods that only Bernard could travel through?  Also Isn't Appia where the first aleran were fighting in captians fury, or was that a different set of ruins?

Different woods.  The forest near Calderon is referred to as the Pine Barrens.  And Chickndnr is correct about Appia.

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« Reply #331 on: November 18, 2009, 03:49:42 PM »
+1 on the awesomeness of the map.  Great job!
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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #332 on: November 19, 2009, 01:32:30 AM »
Most cities of the appropriate Earth era are either coastal or on a major navigable river that has uninterrupted access to the sea.

Excepting Appia. There is no mention of it being on a major river or water source. I'm still searching the text for this.
Might be why it was eventually abandoned or possibly it wasn't defensible.

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #333 on: November 19, 2009, 01:52:29 AM »
Excepting Appia. There is no mention of it being on a major river or water source. I'm still searching the text for this.
Might be why it was eventually abandoned or possibly it wasn't defensible.

Mikey

I put Appia on a river because a proto-Aleran city would have needed a water source.  Just because there's no mention of a nearby water source in the text doesn't mean there isn't one. :D

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #334 on: November 19, 2009, 01:56:51 AM »
I put Appia on a river because a proto-Aleran city would have needed a water source.  Just because there's no mention of a nearby water source in the text doesn't mean there isn't one. :D

oh right! What's a cubit?

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #335 on: November 19, 2009, 02:05:38 AM »
oh right! What's a cubit?

a measurement I think.

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #336 on: November 19, 2009, 02:58:55 AM »
Excepting Appia. There is no mention of it being on a major river or water source. I'm still searching the text for this.
Might be why it was eventually abandoned or possibly it wasn't defensible.

Mikey

Sorta why I said "most". ;D

oh right! What's a cubit?

1 cubit = 45.72 centimeters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit
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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #337 on: November 19, 2009, 03:00:37 AM »
Sorta why I said "most". ;D

1 cubit = 45.72 centimeters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #338 on: November 19, 2009, 06:49:27 AM »
Why is the Princep's Memorum on the west side of the Garrison? If the Marat showed up in FOC wouldn't it be more to the east? I doubt that the Marat could of crossed the Garrison and all those steadholts unnoticed without attacking anyone or being seen. I Always thought the Garrison would be to the west and the steadholts were on its eastern side.

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #339 on: November 19, 2009, 07:12:22 AM »
Why is the Princep's Memorum on the west side of the Garrison? If the Marat showed up in FOC wouldn't it be more to the east? I doubt that the Marat could of crossed the Garrison and all those steadholts unnoticed without attacking anyone or being seen. I Always thought the Garrison would be to the west and the steadholts were on its eastern side.

If you put the steadholts to the east they would be totally unprotected which wouldn't make much sense, would it ?
The Marat who entered the valley came in a small group, through the mountains. They never went anywhere near Garrison.

The Crown legion fought the Marat after/while they overran Garrison and the valley, so the position of the Memorium is quite alright.

On a loosely related note.

What strikes me as odd is the fact that Kordholt (later Aricholt) is so far from Garados. They used it as base to hunt the Vord on Garados... makes no sense for it to be so far away.
But like I said before, the whole of Calderon deviates from how I pictured it myself.
I bet Jim did this on purpose... he wants to confuse us. :-)

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #340 on: November 19, 2009, 08:47:35 AM »
On a loosely related note.

What strikes me as odd is the fact that Kordholt (later Aricholt) is so far from Garados. They used it as base to hunt the Vord on Garados... makes no sense for it to be so far away.
But like I said before, the whole of Calderon deviates from how I pictured it myself.
I bet Jim did this on purpose... he wants to confuse us. :-)

They went to Aricholt because Aric came and said "I haz problems, helps plzthnks" and then they found it abandoned and vord-infested. After which they decided to press on, not because that was the best base but because it would take too long to go elsewhere. Necessity, rather than convenience.
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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #341 on: November 19, 2009, 12:48:43 PM »
They went to Aricholt because Aric came and said "I haz problems, helps plzthnks" and then they found it abandoned and vord-infested. After which they decided to press on, not because that was the best base but because it would take too long to go elsewhere. Necessity, rather than convenience.

My question is, why did the Vord, in setting up on Garados, ignore the 2 or 3 steadholts they had to go right past to GET to Aricholt in AF...

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #342 on: November 19, 2009, 01:20:56 PM »
My question is, why did the Vord, in setting up on Garados, ignore the 2 or 3 steadholts they had to go right past to GET to Aricholt in AF...

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #343 on: November 19, 2009, 01:42:42 PM »
What strikes me as odd is the fact that Kordholt (later Aricholt) is so far from Garados. They used it as base to hunt the Vord on Garados... makes no sense for it to be so far away.
But like I said before, the whole of Calderon deviates from how I pictured it myself.
I bet Jim did this on purpose... he wants to confuse us. :-)

FRAK.  Aricholt should be Aldoholt on my map.

As for why the vord chose to attack Aricholt in the first place, simple.  It's the most isolated.  The Queen is nothing if not opportunistic.  Perhaps she considered it a test run.  Then, with her forces swollen with a new army of Taken, she picked a more central location as her base of power, from which she could be poised to attack any other steadholt with ease.

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Re: A Map (cont'd) Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers
« Reply #344 on: November 19, 2009, 03:45:11 PM »
FRAK.  Aricholt should be Aldoholt on my map.

As for why the vord chose to attack Aricholt in the first place, simple.  It's the most isolated.  The Queen is nothing if not opportunistic.  Perhaps she considered it a test run.  Then, with her forces swollen with a new army of Taken, she picked a more central location as her base of power, from which she could be poised to attack any other steadholt with ease.

Make sense.