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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2018, 02:47:26 PM »
There was that 3rdEye addict in SF that was able to spot HWWB's influence on him.  Not seeing anything specific in the Chauncy FM scene. 
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2018, 08:42:46 PM »
Third eye gave people a measure of wizard sight, I wonder how many were driven crazy. A bunch of mortal driven mad by the same potion. I could see them being used in some kind of ritual, as sacrifices or cultists.
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2018, 06:05:57 AM »
Third eye gave people a measure of wizard sight, I wonder how many were driven crazy. A bunch of mortal driven mad by the same potion. I could see them being used in some kind of ritual, as sacrifices or cultists.

I just wonder what the Council would think of the three-eye potion, if it started being widely distributed.  It doesn't in itself violate a Law of Magic, but I'll bet the Wardens would be after whoever was doing it.

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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2018, 06:43:30 PM »
I just wonder what the Council would think of the three-eye potion, if it started being widely distributed.  It doesn't in itself violate a Law of Magic, but I'll bet the Wardens would be after whoever was doing it.

I could see a case being made that the addictive nature of the drug could be considered to have violated the third law.
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2018, 06:58:37 PM »
I just wonder what the Council would think of the three-eye potion, if it started being widely distributed.  It doesn't in itself violate a Law of Magic, but I'll bet the Wardens would be after whoever was doing it.

I'd say it's dancing around the mind magic laws...  Also since the one guy could see He Who Walks Before's mark on Harry there is the possibility they can actually communicate with Outsiders, violating another law.
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2018, 07:23:05 PM »
I think they'd probably consider it along the lines of, "It's not technically in violation of the law, but it's wrong enough that we're going to step in."
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2018, 08:25:18 PM »
I think they'd probably consider it along the lines of, "It's not technically in violation of the law, but it's wrong enough that we're going to step in."
I dont think they'd go after the users for violating anything, and honestly since it's all consensual I dont htink the relevant Laws would apply. 

Of course, there are plenty of things that the Council doenst like and will go after people for that doesnt fall under one of the Seven Laws, and I have to think they'd take issue with ANY potion (or other working magic) to be mass-distributed, regardless of the nature of it's effects.  A magic weight-loss potion or anti-wrinkle cream would be just as dangerous as Magic Drugs, to their POV.
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2018, 11:04:56 PM »
I wonder what would happen if a variation of this potion was used on those that posses minor magical gifts. I doubt it would enhance their power, but it could help them develop their limited gifts.
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2018, 01:51:24 PM »
A magic weight-loss potion or anti-wrinkle cream would be just as dangerous as Magic Drugs, to their POV.
Harry did once try to brew a hair-growing potion when he was trying to grow a beard. Apparently it worked, but not as intended. Regardless, Harry could conceivably have a cure for freaking BALDNESS. Do you have any idea how ridiculously valuable that would be? Even if he just had a salon, he could charge thousands per "treatment," and have a line out the door morning, noon, and night.

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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2018, 03:01:14 PM »
Harry did once try to brew a hair-growing potion when he was trying to grow a beard. Apparently it worked, but not as intended. Regardless, Harry could conceivably have a cure for freaking BALDNESS. Do you have any idea how ridiculously valuable that would be? Even if he just had a salon, he could charge thousands per "treatment," and have a line out the door morning, noon, and night.
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2018, 04:56:49 PM »
He'd be better off doing something on the downlow -- find a really vain celebrity and become his go-to guy for things like that. You think Bob couldn't come up with a magic wrinkle cream?

Harry could be filthy rich if he didn't have so many scruples about how he uses his magic.
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2018, 07:56:02 PM »
That's not even particularly unscrupulous; it's providing a service. He could even flat-out tell them it's a magic potion. Of course, now it's redundant, because he has a sack of diamonds, but the dude could've made enough money to hire a personal army before he was thirty. Honestly, I would've figured out how to monetize Bob's knowledge the minute I got him.

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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2018, 09:58:41 PM »
I'd say it's dancing around the mind magic laws...  Also since the one guy could see He Who Walks Before's mark on Harry there is the possibility they can actually communicate with Outsiders, violating another law.

Interesting point.  The Seventh Law is the most tricky to deal with of them all, it's the one that can get you killed for reading the wrong book.  OTOH, I doubt that actually happens very often, for various reasons. 

I don't think the Sight seeing Outsider taint would count as a violation, though.  That would potentially put the whole Council in violation of its own law at any given moment.  But the ability to see the taint might be a channel that opens the possibility of a violation, so I could see that as one reason the Council would want to shut down production.

Besides the fact that the stuff can easily drive weak-willed people nuts, as well.

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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2018, 10:28:08 PM »
Interesting point.  The Seventh Law is the most tricky to deal with of them all, it's the one that can get you killed for reading the wrong book.  OTOH, I doubt that actually happens very often, for various reasons. 

I don't think the Sight seeing Outsider taint would count as a violation, though.  That would potentially put the whole Council in violation of its own law at any given moment.  But the ability to see the taint might be a channel that opens the possibility of a violation, so I could see that as one reason the Council would want to shut down production.

Besides the fact that the stuff can easily drive weak-willed people nuts, as well.
Agreed, it grants the Sight, which is not in itself against the Laws, though it does give them the glimpse of the supernatural world they'd need to start walking those dark paths on their own, but there's nothing pushing them toward it vs the Light at that point (all other factors being equal).

That's not even particularly unscrupulous; it's providing a service. He could even flat-out tell them it's a magic potion. Of course, now it's redundant, because he has a sack of diamonds, but the dude could've made enough money to hire a personal army before he was thirty. Honestly, I would've figured out how to monetize Bob's knowledge the minute I got him.

...Maybe there's a good reason magic isn't real.
Keep in mind that he gets a ton of crap for just advertising in the Yellow Pages.  If he started selling actual Magic (as opposed to selling services that could technically be done without it, allowing for plausible deniability) there would be a slew of Interersts out there who might take offence and "Ask" him to stop; the Council would be in Line, but maybe not in front.  Anyone with an interest in keeping magic secret is going to object to marketing actual magic items/potions.  They wouldnt blink if you used it to, say, win the Lottery or game the stock market, but spreading around actual Proof of magic (in the form of a magical product others could independently test) is a whole other Danger. 
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Re: Maggie Sr
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2018, 06:20:40 PM »
For the first Day.  Then he'd have the FDA and CDC breaking down his door :P

Naw .... He could (probably) just give them the list of fairly innocuous ingredients.  Heck, even give them an actual sample.  Let them analyze it.  They'd say it has no reason for working, but as long as it does work, people will still buy it.
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