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Offline A Nomadic Hobo

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A new mantle
« on: October 19, 2017, 07:23:29 AM »
I just spent the last couple weeks re reading skin game and starting thinking about this series again, got a random theory and decided to post it here, more or less as proof that it’s something I thought of if it becomes true.

Harry will eventually power up, we know that, and I think he will end up creating his own mantle.

The first step was ignoring and fighting off the Coins temptation, it was training to allow him to stay free of the WK influence. We know that harry changes things, like at this point, basically everything he’s involved with. I think he will eventually change the Wk mantle (and maybe even winter, side theory not for here). This will be step two.

Step three will be him realizing that soul fire wasn’t given to him to combat the fallen, but instead to create, just as it was used to create the iverse. He will use WK mantle and the power at demon reach as building material for the new mantle and the tool he’ll use to forge it is soul fire.

Here’s the catch, he would have to not use all his soul fire, or figure a way to use it without depleting it. Doing so would shed his soul and he would only be left with the mantle in its place, making him not human and a slave to whatever his new purpose is. With a soul, he’d have all the power of a god, and all the free will of a mortal.

It’s the only way that really makes sense for him to stay harry, but be able to take on what he will face. Remember he’s fighting outsiders now, and the walkers can go toe to toe with Mab, but they are only knights, servants of more powerful beings. He’s going to need some serious power to do that, a dark hallow on demon reach would provide it, but he’d have to change the nature of the power and create something new from it to not succumb to the evil in it.

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I’d be willing to bet that a lot of the other mantles were made in a very similar way, he have a WOJ saying that humans created the mantle of Hecate/Queens. It would be a mechanic that makes sense and explains the lack of a soul in them.




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Re: A new mantle
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 07:58:47 AM »
okay mate i am with you on harry creating mantle of Dresden and thanks for making a good theory for it

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Re: A new mantle
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 12:50:14 PM »
If he does, I think the mantle should be called "Warden" and its primary purpose the capture and imprisonment of the bad guys.

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Re: A new mantle
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 03:29:45 PM »
Would the mantle of Warden be a new one?

Do mantles HAVE to be populated?  Or are there mantles that are empty, waiting for someone to take them up?

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Re: A new mantle
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 06:58:43 PM »
Would the mantle of Warden be a new one?

Do mantles HAVE to be populated?  Or are there mantles that are empty, waiting for someone to take them up?

Maybe "Gatekeeper" and "Warden" are more than just titles. Maybe they are mantles and Harry has not explored his fully yet. We know Harry's role as Warden comes with new responsibilities, just like a mantle. We know he has new abilities (with relation to Demonreach and prisoner release), just like a mantle. We know he has increased knowledge from his role with regards to his sphere of responsibility (eg intellectus). If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....

I would think that whether or not mantles have to be populated depends on how they were created. For example, the Ladies and Knights (and presumably the queens and mothers) are designed to seek out a new host when the current mantle occupant dies. It would make sense that other mantles lie empty or dormant until the right set of conditions are met to fill the mantle. If "Warden" is a mantle then it would fall into this category. The mantle was empty until the right person came along and performed the Sanctum Invocation.

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Re: A new mantle
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2017, 04:45:46 PM »
I think Mantles do need to be populated.  Roles do not.
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Re: A new mantle
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2017, 10:23:48 AM »
I would say that Harry takes an old mantle and alters it into a new mantle. He has the tendency to change the old into new.
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