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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2013, 03:25:05 AM »
Strong indications in the book point to blamps not being part of the accords.

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2013, 03:25:47 PM »
I definitely agree that the Black Court is pretty much antithetical to the Summer Court. The BC is pretty much death and decay. The fact that they are living dead does nothing to dispel this notion.

As far as backlash from the Accords i doubt that is going to be much of a problem considering the BC can't retaliate, since you know they'll be gone and will not have an arbitrator to complain or lodge a complaint with. I kind of see the Accords like the Drow society in Forgotten realms, it is largely to prevent large scale free for all wars that would leave the earth a smoking ruin. If the said faction is taken out cleanly and smoothly i cant see anyone sticking their own necks out to call foul-play.

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So in short, Yea, wipe them out. The only repercussion i can forsee are those dealing with your own Court, if Titiana did not want them wiped out or something but i highly doubt she cares.

In any case it always results altercations between the two participating parties.

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2013, 09:27:20 PM »

So in short, Yea, wipe them out. The only repercussion i can forsee are those dealing with your own Court, if Titiana did not want them wiped out or something but i highly doubt she cares

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 09:33:00 PM »
In addition in Cold Days.

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Uh...no. Just no.

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 09:37:14 PM »
Although, if CD is any indication, vamps are basically seen as cockroaches by the fae, seeing as
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So, Titania just might not care about the Black Court.
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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 09:39:47 PM »
To further's Narphoenix point - even if the fae is crazed or morally depraved they still hold humans in a place of value (reproduction, amusement, etc); vampires have no value to them and they actively de-value humanity (eat them, turn them, etc). So there might be a bit of a compettion factor there as well in the supernatural ecosystem of the Dresden-verse.

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 10:33:56 PM »
@Dr and Deadman: Oh I see beautiful things happening regardless...
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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2013, 10:35:10 PM »
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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 11:32:18 PM »
Uh...no. Just no.

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 11:50:27 PM »
I will say what I said in the other thread. Just kill em all and by all I mean the bcv, there is nothing doing your character from dropping a fire nuke into the grave

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 11:52:40 PM »
I will say what I said in the other thread. Just kill em all and by all I mean the bcv, there is nothing doing your character from dropping a fire nuke into the grave

Seems to be the default action in the Dresdenverse. Kill it with fire! BOOM!
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 11:56:35 PM »
I actually am enjoying the fact that this is causing tension among your PC's. The players seem to be playing as their characters not as players who are running a character. Ultimately it MIGHT be in everyone's best interest to kill The Rukh but emotions are getting away from people.

It makes for interesting stories and better games.

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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2013, 12:14:06 AM »
I actually am enjoying the fact that this is causing tension among your PC's. The players seem to be playing as their characters not as players who are running a character. Ultimately it MIGHT be in everyone's best interest to kill The Rukh but emotions are getting away from people.

It makes for interesting stories and better games.

I agree with this. I disagree with the GM's seeming reactions, though. those smack of the exact opposite - putting the fact that it's a game over the legitimate interests of the characters. Especially the prohibition on inter-PC conflict.

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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2013, 01:05:00 AM »
Too true Deadmanwalking.

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Re: Relations between Summer Court and Black Court
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 12:04:05 PM »
Honestly, I don't buy the idea that the Summer Court would be opposed to genocide.
 
They're about growth and progress sure, but they don't seem to hold reverence for any particular species.  To quote Bob in Summer Knight
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The idea that every species matters is a distinctly human one, and I doubt the Summer Sidhe care.  They're not conservationists.  In fact, if anything, that would fall under the kinder aspects of Winter - Stasis. 

If a species, such as the Black Court, is no longer suited to it's environment, it's natural that it will be supplanted by more powerful, better suited creatures.  The Black Court is an evolutionary dead end, and the sooner they're cleared away, the sooner new life can replace them. 

And that's even if you accept "undead" as a form of life, which I don't think is necessarily justified in the Dresden Files.