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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #90 on: January 23, 2013, 12:30:24 AM »
You'd probably do it better than me, but I imagine it'd be like a +1 or 2?
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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #91 on: January 23, 2013, 08:30:29 AM »
It's a Limitation.  It's value cannot be reasonably assessed on a Template scale because it requires information specific to the character, game, and potentially even story arc, in which it features.
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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #92 on: January 23, 2013, 10:57:13 PM »
Limitation does vary in cost, but you can make reasonably accurate estimates if you try. You just have to add a disclaimer.

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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #93 on: January 24, 2013, 09:07:15 AM »
I generally don't view 'white room' estimates to be anything remotely resembling 'accurate'.  They can't be.  The entire basis upon which these costs are adjudicated are rendered unavailable by the context of the estimate.
The narrative nature of the Limitation is entirely immaterial to its refresh value.  The only thing that matters is how often it will come up in play.  And that can not be reasonably extrapolated without some basic knowledge of the game in question.
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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #94 on: January 24, 2013, 09:13:04 AM »
Most games are at least somewhat similar to one another.

So while there is plenty of variation, white-room estimates are still useful.

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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #95 on: January 24, 2013, 09:37:42 AM »
Most games are at least somewhat similar to one another.

So while there is plenty of variation, white-room estimates are still useful.

In the same way that two individuals sharing a steriotypical DSM-IV diagnosis are 'similar' to one another.  They each have some traits found on the same list.  Except the list of traits for DFrpg games is rather longer, and it's not entirely clear how many traits from that list are required before something can be called a DFrpg game.
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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #96 on: January 24, 2013, 10:06:55 AM »
To extend the mental illness analogy further, it's totally possible to say that drug X (Refresh Rebate X) is good for illness Y (Limitation Y). You wouldn't want to take X without consulting your doctor (GM), but the general statement is still useful.

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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #97 on: January 24, 2013, 11:11:14 AM »
To extend the mental illness analogy further, it's totally possible to say that drug X (Refresh Rebate X) is good for illness Y (Limitation Y). You wouldn't want to take X without consulting your doctor (GM), but the general statement is still useful.

If you throw enough weasel words into the statement proper as to be worth of a pharmeceutical company's television ad, then, sure, you'd be on the right track.
"Have regenerative powers that fail to regenerate injury sustained from fire?  A [1/x] rebate may be right for you.  Consult your GM for more information."
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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2013, 04:35:40 AM »
I un-ironically think that's a good idea. Weasel words work well.

I'll give it a try next time I write a Template with a Limitation.

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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #99 on: January 26, 2013, 05:12:58 PM »
I edited the Vesuvian according to suggestions. I just put my reccomended Limitation rebate next to a question mark. Here she goes.
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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #100 on: January 27, 2013, 12:15:36 AM »
Updated first post.

Not sure how the rules for Vesuvian-conjured armour differ from the normal armour evocation rules though.

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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #101 on: January 27, 2013, 03:29:01 AM »
Oh, they don't. I just posted it to clarify.
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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #102 on: January 28, 2013, 11:21:46 PM »
I got the first draft of that statuepire template written up if you are interested Sanctaphrax.

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,36458.60.html

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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2013, 12:31:38 AM »
And here's another Template. This one's from DMS. I'll add it to the first post in a moment.

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Now could someone report this thread and get it moved to Resources? I dislike having to dig it up when I want to add to it.

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Re: Custom Templates
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2013, 04:01:40 AM »
I reported it to Darkwood some time ago. Is trying again rude?
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