Author Topic: List Compiling: Consequences  (Read 15088 times)

Offline bestial warlust

  • Participant
  • *
  • Posts: 49
    • View Profile
List Compiling: Consequences
« on: January 31, 2011, 02:08:12 AM »
Ok so I've got a group that will be new to the FATE system in general what I need help with is a good list of physical and mental stress that can be used at each: mild, moderate and severe. Just something to help me and them get a good idea of what we can have at each level the more the better.

Here's the current entries:

Updated the list 3-19-2011

Social

Mild

Tongue-tied; Embarrassed; What's Wrong With Me Today?; What an Idiot!; Intimidated; Going Off Half-Cocked; Gullible; Unkempt; Watchful Eye of the Law;Awkward, Looking Weak, Reluctantly Impressed, Stuttering, Blushing, Annoyed

Moderate

Nothing Comes Out Right; Introverted; Antisocial; Leave Me Alone, I Need My Space; Party Foul; Clearly Out of My Depth; Mouth Writing Checks My Body Can't Cash; Taking This Out on the Next Person I See; Glum; Unclean; In the Doghouse with my [significant other]; Wanted for Questioning, Scared For My Life, Totally Misguided, Seeing Your Point All Too Well, Enraged


Severe

Everybody's Talking About It; I Hate People Right Now; Office Pariah; Nobody's Talking to Me; Roll Over and Give Up; Depressed; Serious, Self-Neglect; Marital Strife; Suspect Number One, Serious Self-Doubt, My Secret's Out, Kneeling Before Zod, Time In Heaven Taught Me Earth Is Hell


Extreme:

Scandal!; Not the Cover Story I Was Hoping For; I'm So Alone; Thoughts of Suicide; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; All Doors are Closed to Me; Getting a Divorce; On the Police's 'Usual Suspects' List; Kicked Out of the Yacht Club, Lost-My-Soul Sociopath; Locked-In Syndrome


Mental

Mild

Headache; Distracted; Forgetful; Missing Some Facts; Not Connecting the Dots Well Today, Odd twitch, Weird/Dark thoughts, A bit tamed, My head hurts, Irritable, Hurt, Reckless


Moderate

Gullible; Not Thinking Things Through; I Can't Keep My Mind Off of [insert event]; Can't Concentrate; Mind Racing; Mentally Checked Out; Haunted; Insomnia; Restless, Weakened Control, Must.. Not.. Obey, The world is spinning, Angry, Sad, Crazy

Severe

Dependent Upon [insert name] for Guidance; Beginning to See Patterns in Everything; Paranoid; Not Really Here Right Now; I Can't Sleep Until I Figure This Out, (insert name here)'s got a hold on me, I.. feel.. numb, Why keep fighting?, Cold/violent fury, Deep depression, Maniac


Extreme

Crippling Visions; Mental Breakdown; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; *Personality Schism; Devil on my Shoulder; *Paranoid Schizophrenia, My mind goes to the shadows, Mental Scars, Does not play well with others, M1 Regular, Look out he's got a knife!, Stockholm's Syndrom

Physical

Mild

Bell Rung; Off-Balance; Dizzy; Bloody Nose; Sprained Joint; Cold/Flu, Bruised Knuckle, Frostbitten, That Hurts!, Cut, Grazed, Bleeding, Bruised, fat lip, sore, sprained, winded, tired, banged up, looks worse than it really is, wincing, Tis but a scratch


Moderate

Bleeding; I Think I Fractured Something; Mild Concussion; Food Poisoning, Pulled My Back, Dislocated Shoulder, Broken Nose , Cracked Ribs, Concussion,  tasting blood, can't wear that any more, shouldn't be walking on that, making a mess, ragged breathing, don't touch me there, partly blinded, partly deafened, cussing, It's just a flesh wound

Severe

State of Shock; Broken Leg; Severe Blood Loss; Head Wound; Serious Concussion; Hypothermia; Heart Attack, External Internal Organs, There's A Hole In Me, Crushed Ribcage, Bent the wrong way, Bloody Mess, is that bone showing, Crippling Pain, Internal Bleeding, Hemorrhaging, picking up teeth, can't walk on that, holding it shut, gasping for air, punch drunk, tunnel vision, moaning agony

Extreme

Where's My Arm?; Coma; Serious Disease; I'll Never Play the Guitar Again; Hooked on Pain Pills; Stroke, I Can't Find My Eyes, Wheelchair-Bound, Disfiguring Scars, Legless, Armless, Slit Vocal Cords, Hamstrung, Lost a Lung, Body-Switch; Withered To Old Age; Imperfect "Resurrection"; Irradiated
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 05:35:50 PM by bestial warlust »

Offline sinker

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2115
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 02:28:52 AM »
I'm having a hard time thinking of good examples right now, (especially mental and social) but this is always the way I've thought about consequences.

A mild consequence should be an "OW that smarts, but it'll be alright in a few hours/days" sort of thing. So like headaches, scrapes, bruises, etc.
A moderate is a "You should probably go see a doctor, but you'll probably be alright if you decide not to" sort of thing. So cuts, mild to moderate burns, sprains, mild hyperextension, deep bruising.
Severe is a "Holy profanity you should be at an emergency room right now" injury. Broken bones, deep gashes, internal injuries, severe burns, dislocated joints.

Hope that helps some.

Offline Drachasor

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 871
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 04:17:12 AM »
Mental isn't too hard.

Mild:  Starving (distracts thinking, could also be mild social consequence), Headache, Need a Nap, Overworked, Distracted....just think of something that impedes thinking and/or focus
Moderate:  Concussion, Depressed, hmm, Haunted by Nightmares, Exposed to Electro-Shock Therapy (could also be severe or extreme...this can potentially really mess you up)
Severe:  err...Bad Head Wound, REALLY Haunted by Nightmares, Severely Depressed
Extreme: Stroke

Hmm, "Drugged" potentially can go in any category.  Mental stuff is a bit hard to come up with.  I suppose a lot of it you can just wing it, and view it as the same sort of problem as a Mild consequence, just lasting longer (this isn't the worst way to model it by far).  So "Easily Distracted" if it lasts a long time IS a Moderate/Severe/Extreme consequence.  Last a few hours, no big deal, but if it lasts for a few days that's not good.  Harder to do this with some things, like lack of sleep, but one could say it takes a few days to really begin to recover from not having slept for a long time.

As for physical, that's all super-easy.  In a game coming soon, I'm playing the son of Thor, and I hope I get to stop something crazy at some point, like a rocket, explosive, huge jolt of magic, and take the mild consequence "Numb Arm" because that's pretty bad ass.

Offline devonapple

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2165
  • Parkour to YOU!
    • View Profile
    • LiveJournal Account
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 07:40:41 AM »
Rick Neal has some playtest notes, including this Thaumaturgical Declaration cheat sheet, with suggestions for Lore Declarations, including Social, Mental and Physical consequences:

Quote
Physical Consequences

    * Spill some blood to help power the ritual Deep, Bleeding Cut
    * Burn foul substances and breathe in the noxious fumes Hacking Cough
    * Sleep on a bed of nails Pinpricked Back
    * Walk around the perimeter of the city to define the area of the spell Really, Really Sore Feet
    * Fast for three days to purify yourself Weak With Hunger

Mental Consequences

    * Performing difficult calculations to compose the spell My Brain Hurts!
    * Cross-checking ancient manuscripts, translating from multiple languages Its All Greek to Me. Or Maybe Akkadian.
    * Take mind-altering substances to change your perceptions of the world Tripping Balls
    * Delving deep into your dreams for hidden knowledge and revelation Sleepwalking Through the Day
    * Matching wits with a spirit of intellect for a secret chant Thinking in Circles

Social Consequences

    * Ignoring personal hygiene for a few days while you research Whats That Smell?
    * Dropping out of sight for days at a time while you work on the spell Ignoring My Friends
    * Trading favours with one of the fey In Debt to the Summer Court
    * Getting arrested doing a little nude graverobbing Unsavoury Police Record
    * Watching everyone you meet to see if theyre spirits sent to attack you Weird Stalker Vibe
"Like a voice, like a crack, like a whispering shriek
That echoes on like its carpet-bombing feverish white jungles of thought
That Im positive are not even mine"

Blackout, The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets

Offline devonapple

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2165
  • Parkour to YOU!
    • View Profile
    • LiveJournal Account
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 07:24:01 PM »
Bear in mind that some of these can cross categories or even levels of severity, depending on the plot, and how you envision them affecting your character:

Social
Mild: Tongue-tied; Embarrassed; What's Wrong With Me Today?; What an Idiot!; Intimidated; Going Off Half-Cocked; Gullible; Unkempt; Watchful Eye of the Law
Moderate: Nothing Comes Out Right; Introverted; Antisocial; Leave Me Alone, I Need My Space; Party Foul; Clearly Out of My Depth; Mouth Writing Checks My Body Can't Cash; Taking This Out on the Next Person I See; Glum; Unclean; In the Doghouse with my [significant other]; Wanted for Questioning
Severe: Everybody's Talking About It; I Hate People Right Now; Office Pariah; Nobody's Talking to Me; Roll Over and Give Up; Depressed; Serious Self-Neglect; Marital Strife; Suspect Number One
Extreme: Scandal!; Not the Cover Story I Was Hoping For; I'm So Alone; Thoughts of Suicide; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; All Doors are Closed to Me; Getting a Divorce; On the Police's 'Usual Suspects' List; Kicked Out of the Yacht Club

Mental
Mild: Headache; Distracted; Forgetful; Missing Some Facts; Not Connecting the Dots Well Today
Moderate: Gullible; Not Thinking Things Through; I Can't Keep My Mind Off of [insert event]; Can't Concentrate; Mind Racing; Mentally Checked Out; Haunted; Insomnia; Restless
Severe: Dependent Upon [insert name] for Guidance; Beginning to See Patterns in Everything; Paranoid; Not Really Here Right Now; I Can't Sleep Until I Figure This Out
Extreme: Crippling Visions; Mental Breakdown; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; *Personality Schism; Devil on my Shoulder; *Paranoid Schizophrenia

Physical
Mild: Bell Rung; Off-Balance; Dizzy; Bloody Nose; Sprained Joint; Cold/Flu
Moderate: Bleeding; I Think I Fractured Something; Mild Concussion; Food Poisoning
Severe: State of Shock; Broken Leg; Severe Blood Loss; Head Wound; Serious Concussion; Hypothermia; Heart Attack
Extreme: Where's My Arm?; Coma; Serious Disease; I'll Never Play the Guitar Again; Hooked on Pain Pills; Stroke


* With no intent to belittle or trivialize such disorders

Also, my apologies for any duplicates of other suggestions - I was "in the zone!"
« Last Edit: January 31, 2011, 07:50:05 PM by devonapple »
"Like a voice, like a crack, like a whispering shriek
That echoes on like its carpet-bombing feverish white jungles of thought
That Im positive are not even mine"

Blackout, The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets

Offline bestial warlust

  • Participant
  • *
  • Posts: 49
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 07:44:09 PM »
This is good just the kind of stuff I'm looking for. It's something to give us a good feel for what at what level once we get the hang of it I don't think it will be too hard.

Offline Sanctaphrax

  • White Council
  • Seriously?
  • ****
  • Posts: 12344
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 08:39:20 PM »
Physical:
Mild: Bruised Knuckle, Frostbitten, That Hurts!
Moderate: Pulled My Back, Dislocated Shoulder, Broken Nose
Severe: External Internal Organs, There's A Hole In Me, Crushed Ribcage
Extreme: I Can't Find My Eyes, Wheelchair-Bound, Disfiguring Scars

Social:
Mild: Awkward, Looking Weak, Reluctantly Impressed, Stuttering, Blushing, Annoyed
Moderate: Scared For My Life, Totally Misguided, Seeing Your Point All Too Well, Enraged
Severe: Serious Self-Doubt, My Secret's Out, Kneeling Before Zod
Extreme: In Love, Holding A Grudge, Suspected Paedophile, Made An Enemy

Offline devonapple

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2165
  • Parkour to YOU!
    • View Profile
    • LiveJournal Account
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 08:42:56 PM »
Nice and dark, Sanctaphrax! Excellent proposals.

Bestial warlust: will you be compiling these in the original post above?
"Like a voice, like a crack, like a whispering shriek
That echoes on like its carpet-bombing feverish white jungles of thought
That Im positive are not even mine"

Blackout, The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets

Offline bitterpill

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 441
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 10:09:26 PM »
Physical
Mild: Cut, Grazed, Bloodied, Bruised
Moderate: Clean Break, Nasty Gash , Cracked Ribs, Concussion
Severe: Bent the wrong way, Hemorrhaging, is that bone showing, Agonising Pain, Internal Bleeding
Extreme: Bloody Mess, Legless, Slit Vocal Cords, Hamstrung, Lost a Lung

Mental        
Mild: Shadow of Doubt, Absent, Tired, Angry
Moderate: Exausted, Disconected, Enraged, Bitter
Severe: Petrifyed, Obsessed, Seeing Shadows, Depression  
Extreme: Broken, Warped Reality, Gibbering Wreck, Broken Hearted  
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 12:03:06 AM by bitterpill »
"Apathetic bloody planet, I've no sympathy at all"  Vogon Captain

Offline bestial warlust

  • Participant
  • *
  • Posts: 49
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 10:19:07 PM »
Yes so far we have:

Social

Mild

Tongue-tied; Embarrassed; What's Wrong With Me Today?; What an Idiot!; Intimidated; Going Off Half-Cocked; Gullible; Unkempt; Watchful Eye of the Law;Awkward, Looking Weak, Reluctantly Impressed, Stuttering, Blushing, Annoyed

Moderate

Nothing Comes Out Right; Introverted; Antisocial; Leave Me Alone, I Need My Space; Party Foul; Clearly Out of My Depth; Mouth Writing Checks My Body Can't Cash; Taking This Out on the Next Person I See; Glum; Unclean; In the Doghouse with my [significant other]; Wanted for Questioning, Scared For My Life, Totally Misguided, Seeing Your Point All Too Well, Enraged


Severe

Everybody's Talking About It; I Hate People Right Now; Office Pariah; Nobody's Talking to Me; Roll Over and Give Up; Depressed; Serious, Self-Neglect; Marital Strife; Suspect Number One, Serious Self-Doubt, My Secret's Out, Kneeling Before Zod

Extreme:

Scandal!; Not the Cover Story I Was Hoping For; I'm So Alone; Thoughts of Suicide; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; All Doors are Closed to Me; Getting a Divorce; On the Police's 'Usual Suspects' List; Kicked Out of the Yacht Club

Mental

Mild

Headache; Distracted; Forgetful; Missing Some Facts; Not Connecting the Dots Well Today


Moderate

Gullible; Not Thinking Things Through; I Can't Keep My Mind Off of [insert event]; Can't Concentrate; Mind Racing; Mentally Checked Out; Haunted; Insomnia; Restless

Severe

Dependent Upon [insert name] for Guidance; Beginning to See Patterns in Everything; Paranoid; Not Really Here Right Now; I Can't Sleep Until I Figure This Out, External Internal Organs, There's A Hole In Me, Crushed Ribcage

Extreme

Crippling Visions; Mental Breakdown; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; *Personality Schism; Devil on my Shoulder; *Paranoid Schizophrenia

Physical


Mild

Bell Rung; Off-Balance; Dizzy; Bloody Nose; Sprained Joint; Cold/Flu, Bruised Knuckle, Frostbitten, That Hurts!, Cut, Grazed, Bleeding, Bruised

Moderate

Bleeding; I Think I Fractured Something; Mild Concussion; Food Poisoning, Pulled My Back, Dislocated Shoulder, Broken Nose, Internal Bleeding, Hemorrhaging , Cracked Ribs, Concussion

Severe

State of Shock; Broken Leg; Severe Blood Loss; Head Wound; Serious Concussion; Hypothermia; Heart Attack, External Internal Organs, There's A Hole In Me, Crushed Ribcage, Bent the wrong way, Bloody Mess, is that bone showing, Crippling Pain

Extreme

Where's My Arm?; Coma; Serious Disease; I'll Never Play the Guitar Again; Hooked on Pain Pills; Stroke, I Can't Find My Eyes, Wheelchair-Bound, Disfiguring Scars, Legless, Armless, Slit Vocal Cords, Hamstrung, Lost a Lung

Offline jadecourtflunky

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 202
  • "You are cattle" "Moo" (blows head off)
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 11:14:20 PM »
Here are a couple mental ones, based in mental attack/domination.
Mild: Odd twitch, Weird/Dark thoughts, A bit tamed, My head hurts.
Moderate: Weakened Control, Must.. Not.. Obey, The world is spinning,
Severe: (insert name here)'s got a hold on me, I.. feel.. numb, Why keep fighting?
Extreme: My mind goes to the shadows, Mental Scars, I can't feel my (insert body part name here).

Offline sinker

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2115
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 11:39:46 PM »
Moderate: Internal Bleeding, Hemorrhaging , Cracked Ribs, Concussion

These seem a little too severe to be moderate to me (at least the first two). Seems to me that moderate consequences shouldn't be immediately life threatening.

Offline bitterpill

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 441
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 11:58:09 PM »
You might be right about those two, perhaps Hemorrhaging and Internal Bleeding belong in Severe. ive edited it.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 12:01:42 AM by bitterpill »
"Apathetic bloody planet, I've no sympathy at all"  Vogon Captain

Offline bestial warlust

  • Participant
  • *
  • Posts: 49
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 01:07:04 AM »
Updated and corrected from above:

Updated the list

Social

Mild

Tongue-tied; Embarrassed; What's Wrong With Me Today?; What an Idiot!; Intimidated; Going Off Half-Cocked; Gullible; Unkempt; Watchful Eye of the Law;Awkward, Looking Weak, Reluctantly Impressed, Stuttering, Blushing, Annoyed

Moderate

Nothing Comes Out Right; Introverted; Antisocial; Leave Me Alone, I Need My Space; Party Foul; Clearly Out of My Depth; Mouth Writing Checks My Body Can't Cash; Taking This Out on the Next Person I See; Glum; Unclean; In the Doghouse with my [significant other]; Wanted for Questioning, Scared For My Life, Totally Misguided, Seeing Your Point All Too Well, Enraged


Severe

Everybody's Talking About It; I Hate People Right Now; Office Pariah; Nobody's Talking to Me; Roll Over and Give Up; Depressed; Serious, Self-Neglect; Marital Strife; Suspect Number One, Serious Self-Doubt, My Secret's Out, Kneeling Before Zod

Extreme:

Scandal!; Not the Cover Story I Was Hoping For; I'm So Alone; Thoughts of Suicide; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; All Doors are Closed to Me; Getting a Divorce; On the Police's 'Usual Suspects' List; Kicked Out of the Yacht Club

Mental

Mild

Headache; Distracted; Forgetful; Missing Some Facts; Not Connecting the Dots Well Today, Odd twitch, Weird/Dark thoughts, A bit tamed, My head hurts


Moderate

Gullible; Not Thinking Things Through; I Can't Keep My Mind Off of [insert event]; Can't Concentrate; Mind Racing; Mentally Checked Out; Haunted; Insomnia; Restless, Weakened Control, Must.. Not.. Obey, The world is spinning

Severe

Dependent Upon [insert name] for Guidance; Beginning to See Patterns in Everything; Paranoid; Not Really Here Right Now; I Can't Sleep Until I Figure This Out, (insert name here)'s got a hold on me, I.. feel.. numb, Why keep fighting?


Extreme

Crippling Visions; Mental Breakdown; *Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; *Personality Schism; Devil on my Shoulder; *Paranoid Schizophrenia, My mind goes to the shadows, Mental Scars

Physical

Mild

Bell Rung; Off-Balance; Dizzy; Bloody Nose; Sprained Joint; Cold/Flu, Bruised Knuckle, Frostbitten, That Hurts!, Cut, Grazed, Bleeding, Bruised

Moderate

Bleeding; I Think I Fractured Something; Mild Concussion; Food Poisoning, Pulled My Back, Dislocated Shoulder, Broken Nose , Cracked Ribs, Concussion

Severe

State of Shock; Broken Leg; Severe Blood Loss; Head Wound; Serious Concussion; Hypothermia; Heart Attack, External Internal Organs, There's A Hole In Me, Crushed Ribcage, Bent the wrong way, Bloody Mess, is that bone showing, Crippling Pain, Internal Bleeding, Hemorrhaging

Extreme

Where's My Arm?; Coma; Serious Disease; I'll Never Play the Guitar Again; Hooked on Pain Pills; Stroke, I Can't Find My Eyes, Wheelchair-Bound, Disfiguring Scars, Legless, Armless, Slit Vocal Cords, Hamstrung, Lost a Lung
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 01:09:09 AM by bestial warlust »

Offline Seb Wiers

  • Participant
  • *
  • Posts: 32
    • View Profile
Re: List Compiling: Consequences
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2011, 03:55:57 AM »
I'll add a few fight-related physicals I figure to use for my martial artist.  I tried to make them easy to compel rather than anatomically descriptive

Mild- fat lip, sore, sprained, winded, tired, banged up, looks worse than it really is, wincing

Moderate- tasting blood, can't wear that any more, shouldn't be walking on that, making a mess, ragged breathing, don't touch me there, partly blinded, partly deafened, cussing

Severe- picking up teeth, can't walk on that, holding it shut, gasping for air, punch drunk, tunnel vision, moaning agony