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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2024, 04:10:23 PM »
It does in the sense that most of these plot points aren't really resolved, wrinkles and minor WTFs, but most do not move the main story along..

"Resolved" = over (as in "story-ending").
These are advancements in their respective sub-plots & character-arcs.

I think  Michael's & Charity's are the only arcs we have seen "resolved."  Jim has said that retirement from the KotC job "is Michael's happily ever after."

I fully expect other "not fully resolved" elements to be introduced (or foregrounded) -- some to be resolved, some not -- before we reach the BAT (which, hopefully, will resolve most of the ones still open).

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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2024, 03:05:23 PM »
"Resolved" = over (as in "story-ending").
These are advancements in their respective sub-plots & character-arcs.

I think  Michael's & Charity's are the only arcs we have seen "resolved."  Jim has said that retirement from the KotC job "is Michael's happily ever after."

I fully expect other "not fully resolved" elements to be introduced (or foregrounded) -- some to be resolved, some not -- before we reach the BAT (which, hopefully, will resolve most of the ones still open).

Lots of sub-plots and character arcs, but how much has the over all plot really advanced?  The important ones like who if any are on the other side that belong to the White Council? We've discovered a couple of cat's paws over the last dozen or so books, i.e. the Red Court and the Fomer or maybe they were the cat's paw of a cat who is the paw of a bigger cat, but as to just who they are is unknown..  We've known for sometime that Harry was star born, but have no clue as to what that means, especially for Harry.. We may finally find that out, or not...  We know that Mab is very important, and it is important that she have a sane competent Lady, we thought she had that once she killed her daughter off and got Molly... Well, no, when push comes to shove, she wants Molly killed... All these little sub plots are nice but mostly we don't know a lot more now than we did at the beginning of the series... When Harry became Winter Knight, yeah, lots of missions, cool, but have the politics of the Winter Court been explained yet? 

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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2024, 07:31:03 PM »
... when push comes to shove, she wants Molly killed ...
Not exactly, I think.
Mab thinks an unready/unable Winter Queen is a liability that the world cannot afford; and that Molly was unready (as of the opening of the Battle).  She judged Molly an acceptable Winter Lady, but an unacceptable Winter Queen.

But Molly keeps growing (and surprising Mab).

We don't know if Mab now thinks Molly might be ready (I doubt it; but we don't know).
 
Mab stands ready to see anybody dead (even herself) if the long-term result would advance the world's survival.

Mab is at war... Always.  And it's a desperate war.  Even when there is no war within, she is at war at the Outer Gates.  And so she is always in that mode of evaluating "what is acceptable collateral damage."
 
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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2024, 09:45:28 PM »
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Mab stands ready to see anybody dead (even herself) if the long-term result would advance the world's survival.

And that's the nitty gritty of  what I am talking about.. Where is the plan, what is the plan?

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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 12:53:40 AM »
And that's the nitty gritty of  what I am talking about.. Where is the plan, what is the plan?

The plan is to win, to stop the Outsiders from breaching the Outer Gates and destroying our reality. To that end, Mab is forming whatever alliances she can, making webs of contingency plans, recruiting and training any potentially useful agents she finds and maintaining a diligent watch for any Outsider activity, whether direct or through agents.

Given the scope of what Mab has going and overriding need for security, she has to keep her plans secret until action time. And the world can still throw her curveballs like Ethniu. Jim can't possibly do anything but to spell out all of Mab's plans in detail without doubling the page count with boring exposition. And she's not the narrator, so we be treated to chapter after chapter of Mab explaining things which is totally out of her character.

As far as Harry being WK, He got the job in Changes and took his side quest in GS. The four books since have been Harry doing WK jobs.

Mab doesn't think Molly is ready to be Queen, but is happy with her as the Lady.

Harry used the Placard and the Knife to good effect in BG. Maybe he'll use the Shroud next, perhaps to cure Thomas?

Since Changes, Thomas has fought his trauma from the Nagloshii, dealt with the grief of Harry's death by himself, become a potential father, been blackmailed by his possessed true love/child's mother into attempting to assassinate the leader of an Accorded Nation and imprisoned in supernatural Alcatraz. His life has been almost as eventful as Harry's.

We've got 8 or 9 books left, if we didn't have dangling plotlines to resolve, we be getting all new issues without the built-up investment to hold our interest. There's plenty of time.