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How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« on: November 24, 2010, 07:36:01 AM »
They're listed in Skills Affected, but I don't see any bonuses or penalties (probably bonuses, more like...) listed for those skills in the description?
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 08:46:24 AM »
as far as i remember - don't have the books with me at the moment - hulking size affects the damage from fists and weapon attacks.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 09:28:33 AM »
Hulking size doesn't benefit fists and weapons. I believe the mentioned skill set to be a glitch in the rulebook.

According to the trappings that are listed, hulking size effects Endurance (extra stress), Athletics (for defense and sprinting), Might (+2 on breaking and lifting on top of a possible supernatural strength skill), Intimidation, Stealth and numerous other skills that relate to the use of objects that are meant to be used by humans.

However: Somebody with Hulking Size is likely to have at least Inhuman Strength, so you'll get the boni from this. I think this is where the glitch might have originated from. If you like you can interpret the "Everything is Small" trapping like the "[...] Blows" trappings from the Strength-Skills. Actually it makes a lot of sense to me to do that, even if it is not indicated by the rules.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 10:59:34 AM »
Quote from: Papa Gruff on November 24, 2010, 09:28:33 AM
Hulking size doesn't benefit fists and weapons. I believe the mentioned skill set to be a glitch in the rulebook.

According to the trappings that are listed, hulking size effects Endurance (extra stress), Athletics (for defense and sprinting), Might (+2 on breaking and lifting on top of a possible supernatural strength skill), Intimidation, Stealth and numerous other skills that relate to the use of objects that are meant to be used by humans.

There is no glitch.

As you said before, defensive capabilities are affected by the size, negatively thereby fists (defense) and weapons (defense) are affected, too.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 12:03:40 PM »
Quote from: Dumbledresden on November 24, 2010, 10:59:34 AM
There is no glitch.

As you said before, defensive capabilities are affected by the size, negatively thereby fists (defense) and weapons (defense) are affected, too.

Oh ... thank you buddy! I totally forgot about this angle!
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 02:43:34 PM »
Actually, it's not the defenses of the Hulking Sized Creature that are affected, but the attacks of those attacking said creature.
But that's basically the same thing, so I'm just nitpicking... again...  :P
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 06:05:22 PM »
okey dokey. Thanx folks. Just wanted to confirm I wasn't going mad :)
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 07:30:33 PM »
Would something were-dolphin-size qualify for "Hulking Size"? Or would that be more appropriate for a were-orca? Were-whale? Were-narwhale?
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2010, 08:13:21 PM »
As far as "Your Story" reads, there isn't a "limit". But I'd say 8ft tall, or incredibly massive. Even a gorilla in Our World doesn't have hulking size. So if it is actual dolphin sized, no hulking. Orca, definitely.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2010, 08:17:03 PM »
It depends on what your GM and the rest of the group would decide.
Personally i would say that an orca clearly qualifies for hulking size, a narwhale (11 - 12 feet and several hundred lb of body mass) would also qualify for hulking size, while a dolphin should be to small.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 08:35:31 PM »
The smallest creature with hulking size in OW seems to be the Bridge Troll and/or the Ogre. Everything bigger then them qualifies. In my opinion a large narwhale would be kinda troll sizish. A dolphin most certainly not.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 09:52:23 PM »
Best size I've seen is if it is over 1000 pounds/over 9 feet tall.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 02:56:26 AM »
Truthfully, nothing makes a 10 foot spider have a hard time hitting a person. It's so spindly and whatnot. So there really isn't a hard cap one way or the other.
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Re: How does Hulking Size affect Fists, Weapons?
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 07:46:21 AM »
Quote from: mostlyawake on November 29, 2010, 02:56:26 AM
Truthfully, nothing makes a 10 foot spider have a hard time hitting a person. It's so spindly and whatnot. So there really isn't a hard cap one way or the other.

Um... didn't we found out that Hulking Size doesn't do anything to help you hit any better? Only thing it helps you with is hitting harder and getting hit a lot more while being able to take more of a beating.

In general I agree with your argument. As so often in this system, the line where to start with Hulking Size is a fluent one. But at least in my opinion a 10 foot spider is freaking Hulking Sized!
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