And given that Peabody unleashing a Mordite-enhanced Mistfiend and mindwhammying the Wardens wound up not being sufficient to exonerate Morgan in the end, the LaFortier block must be really strict about what constitutes sufficient evidence (when it's politically expedient to fo so).

Some of us are still not entirely convinced Morgan was innocent, fwiw.

Adding to that she was enthralled which can influence a lot of things.

We still don't know this.

And then came some Sidhe Lady with a deal. Harry could not make a good deal with Lea so I don't expect Elaine to make a good deal either.

Considering Lea's obligation to protect Harry by the terms of her deal with Maggie, as revealed in SK, I do wonder whether Harry effectively sold himself to Faerie for nothing (or rather, for something he already had, if he had known and demanded it).

Your dreams seem more literal than mine. I am still trying to figure out why a yellow bird perched on a chair under a skylight scared the crap out of me.

All you have to do is record them faithfully every morning for three decades, and detailed recall improves immensely.

So why was he interested in collecting copies of Die Lied der Erlking if he was in the same 'cell' of the Circle as Peabody and actively running him as an agent? Why not just ask him?

Just trying to deny the book to the other Heirs of Kemmler doesn't necessarily make sense, because his strategy was that it doesn't have to be him that summons the Hunt; he just wanted to highjack the ritual at the end.

I think that only makes sense if the whole thing is a ruse; Cowl and Mavra had the Erlking book all along, they release it into the wild and get the word spread, and hooray, the White Council and the other Kemmlerites start wiping each other out over it.

As for whether the skinwalker Morgan lured into the atomic test was Shaggy, I have to agree that the fact it treated Morgan as essentially just a job to do rather than a personal vendetta suggests otherwise.

I don't know about that, revenge being a dish best served cold and all; not going into a cackling gloating frenzy over getting to hunt Morgan down could just indicate that the thing is competent.

A total failure in trying to look at the story from her point of view which is necessary to explain her actions.

Why would we want to do that ?

If anything, I think the biggest problem I have with debating what's really going on in the DV is people being too attached to looking at things from specific points of view, particularly Harry's.

Most of the books take me one night to finish, so I will probably put a couple of weeks into rereading the whole series whenever we get a release date for PT, depending on what else I am in the middle of by then.

That's alot for one book.

Yeah, and it assumes that the Winter stuff we saw in CD is actually going to be much more important in the BAT than I am willing to; my money's on there being many more equally big pieces yet to be discovered between now and then.

Well, one important detail about the RCV is that they were possibly the largest vamp court  and maybe had the easiest and fastest way of converting mortals into supernatural creatures.

We don't know this at all, and we have circumstantial evidence pointing very much in the opposite direction.

For one thing, we know from WoJ that the White Council first became aware of the Red Court about the time Europeans were exploring the Americas.  Which means that if the Reds were building their forces towards being able to take on the White Council, they were very slow about doing so.  Certainly slower than the Council could; Luccio mentions in Changes that by that point the Council had twice the strength in the field they had before the losses of DB, and that took them five years.

For another, possibly the most important datapoint about supernatural predators in the DV is one that Harry is by definition incapable of realising.  The bit early on in DB where Harry explains to Butters about the numbers of human beings who go missing.  Where he is quoting real-world numbers exactly.

The DV has organised crime.  The DV has abusive families and runaway children.  We've seen these in the text.  We have no reason to believe that these and other reasons why people disappear are any different as facts of the DV than they are in RL.

Which means that the actual impact of supernatural predation on humans in the DV is statistically negligible.  There's hardly any of it.

We've seen one human partially transformed, and that took at least one Red Court noble and possibly a whole houseful of other Red Court to achieve.

The other major piece of evidence here, fwiw, is that Harry entirely understands the dangers of exponential growth among enemies, and explains it quite cogently to Murphy earlyish in BR when talking about the Black Court.  But neither there nor anywhere else does anyone apply or suggest applying that model to the Red Court.  To my mind, that strongly suggests that it does not in fact apply.