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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Olympian Affair (Spoilers All)
« on: November 08, 2023, 01:31:38 PM »
Hadn't made those connections well done.

Although I thought the same thing about Dependence.

Makes you wonder what happened to whittle down the Spire's to those half dozen powers.

Also what about the rest of the world?

My theory on Olympia being based on Australia is out the window but I do love the Pikes. They seem fun warrior nomads and all.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Olympian Affair (Spoilers All)
« on: November 07, 2023, 10:27:21 AM »
Don't read further if you haven't read it yet.

So the map at the beginning is one of central and eastern United States with various Spires dotted around.

Cavendish describes modern society as being in destroyed by what appears to be a Nuclear apocalypse which explains the mutated surface world.

But apparently humanity might have been trying to destroy 'The Enemy. Tyranima. 10 000 years ago according to an archangel the Primearch converses with.

So confirmation that it's in a future version of our world.

In terms of pacing it was build up for the first 70% the final 30% felt a bit compacted.

We also learned a lot more about the other Spires. Atlantean's are ruled by Etherialists and are quite colorful. Pikes are semi-nomadic pirates who live on their ships. Olympia have powerful merchant fleet but little military. The Dolasians they're a confederacy or federation of some sort.

Nothing on Kissam or Jerezzi other than where they are on the map.

Finally got a look at a Mistmaw.

We learned what happened to get Grimm drummed out of the fleet. That part was a little disappointing sort of just explained in a page or two of monologue, but the way it was described I think Jim initially wanted to write it as a novella.

Bayard didn't get that tuxedo cat we were promised? Jim just decided not to?

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I suspect the limit to how many he can infect is 13.

It's a pretty powerful number all round, but both Cornerhounds and Hunstmen of the Outside come in groups of 13.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Fae Rankings
« on: October 17, 2023, 08:59:28 AM »
Something to consider (and this part of my own fanfic wag).

The Fae Courts are running their own version of the Cold War. There are rules and boundaries, and if one side moves the other moves; in either conjunction or against.

It gets very tit for tat favors and blood feuds and skirmishes.

Summer couldn't intervene against the Red Court in Proven Guilty because Winter had their armies on the borders, but sending in a team with Harry as owed a favor and they maneuver into doing so.

The Soveit Union and Nato Allies had a pretty standardised set of Espionage rules. No direct attacks on each other, but supplying arms to their adversaries enemies was a frequently used tactic. Those rules were set up in the few decades the Cold War was running.

The Fae Courts have been doing this for a Millenia give or take a century.

I have a headcanon that Mab had to 'gently' guide the Soveit Union in how to make a Cold War, so that neither power blew the world up.

No you can't bomb their embassies, yes you can exchange hostages, no directly fighting each others military, yes you can train geurilla forces against them. etc

It's all very Fae technicalities and lawyering if you think about it.

So back to my rambling point. Mab knew something was up with Summer but was limited in how she could respond within the rules. Harry thinks she was genuinely surprised when he told her it was Aurora on the battlefied.

Meave was within her court so she could technically move against her, but delayed doing so until Maeve started to threaten the Island and she had a suitable weapon in Harry to deal with her.

Titania couldn't or wouldn't get directly involved except to advise Harry on a crucial point about Nemesis.

Either way both parties could only act against each other in mirror actions.

Hell even Mab gets a kick out of Mac saying;
'May your scales always return to balance'

Small Favor; Mab backs Marcone, Titania finally has an excuse to take Harry out.

tit for tat.

Happens in almost every book the Fae appear.

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DF Spoilers / Fae Rankings
« on: October 14, 2023, 11:32:19 AM »
Found this rereading Summer Knight.

"And your godmother your teacher and guide is the most vicious creature of Mabs Court more than Maeves equal second in strength only to Mab herself."

So Lea is more powerful than Maeve personally, but someone pointed out Maeve probably has the authority to boss her around.

Which got me thinking about how I'd rank the Fae

1.Mothers.
2.Queens.
3. Kringle, Erlking; Erlking has a Goblin Court, but Kringle would get more mortal worship and recognition.
4. Lea, Eldest Gruff; We hadn't met the above two when Aurora said the above quote, and Auroroa's grain of salt anyway, but neither have their own court or near the level of worship strength of Kringle.
5. Ladies; A note here to say they probably have the authority to boss, the 4's around, but would probably loose in a 1v1 duel. Doubt they could boss the 3s as semi independent Dukedomes.
6. Higher level's of Fae;  Sidhe, Elders, Trolls, Ogre's, Goblins. (Depending on their own rank)
7. Foot soldiers; Some of the same species as above but less elite. Mawks, Trolls, Goblins. Or Molly's recruits.
8. Tribes, Swarmers; Little Folk, Sprites, The Spiders or smaller animal fae.


Lemme know if you agree, disagree would reshuffle or add anything. If we get a consensus on any I'll edit the original post with notes on why and who suggested a change.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Has Harry ever met the Baba yaga?
« on: October 08, 2023, 03:17:34 AM »
https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,21772.0.html

yeah it's under Other Fae section.

Here's the original source

https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,36681.0.html

the original quote is even longer.

WOJ: "Oh, yeah, so like if the Ladies succeed to kill the Queen, what happens to the Mothers at that point? The thing is that the Mothers are kind of the foundation.  So, it’s not so much what happens to them because the little mantles changed. It’s what happens to the little mantles if the big mantles change. So, if someone whacks the being that is, for all intents and purposes, Baba Yaga, and then Mab succeeds, then Mab becomes the new Baba Yaga, and Molly gets drawn up to Mab, and they have to find someone else to become the new Lady. But on the other hand, the Mothers are extremely powerful beings, I mean, they’re really really huge. You can tell because they hardly ever show in the real world. In the Dresden universe, if you don’t show up on the real world, it’s because you’re too big to walk around there. For instance, I think in the third book, when the Dragon is talking about how the Earth couldn’t bear his weight, it’s not that the Earth itself would literally crack, it’s that reality would have issues trying to contain him, because every time he coughs, it would bend around like Neo in the Matrix. So, they spend most of their time NOT on the real world, **unintelligible**, all the really heavyweight guys do that. If you’re in the real world, well, the problem is that you’re in the world, and you’re kind of mortal, and something could come along and try and whack you, if they’re fast enough, or good enough, or lucky enough. Which makes Odin a kind of special guy, because he doesn’t mind it, he thinks it’s awesome.  But anyway, you can always tell. If there’s folks who don’t show up in the real world, it’s because they’re super big. So, like, an angel shows up, and it’s just sort of a whispered presence, that’s because he’s just too big to show up here, it’s a giant sandbox, and he’s got to be very very careful to not squash the sandbox. So, he just shows up for that one bit."


I don't know why you're confused about the quote @Conspiracy Theorist?

It's fairly conclusive to me that Mother Winter is Baba Yaga

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DF Spoilers / Re: Has Harry ever met the Baba yaga?
« on: October 07, 2023, 10:06:29 AM »
Thank you, that's helpful!

And (re the OP) confirms that Harry has indeed met the Baba Yaga!


All good. I just googled Dresden Files Baba Yaga and found the quote.

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DF Spoilers / Re: So What Happened to the Athame?
« on: October 06, 2023, 12:44:24 PM »
Something that damaging needs to be stored in Demonreach.

Hmph not to play The Devils (Merlin's) Advocate but Harry has enough WMD's locked up in Demonreach. Any more would just be suspicious.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Has Harry ever met the Baba yaga?
« on: October 06, 2023, 10:58:36 AM »
WOJ confirms Mother Winter is, she's Baba Yaga

WOJ: if the Ladies become the Queen, what happens to the Mothers at that point? The thing is that the Mothers are kind of the foundation.  So, it’s not so much what happens to them because the little mantles changed. It’s what happens to the little mantles if the big mantles change. So, if someone whacks the being that is, for all intents and purposes, Baba Yaga, and then Mab succeeds, then Mab becomes the new Baba Yaga, and Molly gets drawn up to Mab, and they have to find someone else to become the new Lady. But on the other hand, the Mothers are extremely powerful beings (continued in the cosmology/mantle sub-section)

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DF Spoilers / Re: WOJ search for Uriel/Odin deal for Murphy.
« on: October 01, 2023, 03:24:19 PM »
Might be a whisper thing there's a WOJ about Odin having to make deals with other religions in order to recruit einherjaar.

WOJ:"No not really. They can get roped into it. I mean if they've already got a claim somewhere else that's different. In which case Odin has to make a deal of some kind, it's like "I know you had plans for this guy and all Anubis but I really need him for the rest of the mortals" and that's the kind of thing that can happen. Very confused people occasionally wake up in Valhalla.

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Cinder Spires Books / Re: Warrior Born Release Date! and Pre-Order! Amazon!
« on: September 25, 2023, 03:34:48 AM »
We prefer spoilers channel for spoilers.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: WarriorBorn review and discussion
« on: September 20, 2023, 03:31:39 PM »
Agreed. It helps if you count the days as so. I found out in early august when warriorborn was released about 50 days between. It's about 50 days until Olympian Affair.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / WarriorBorn review and discussion
« on: September 18, 2023, 03:24:03 PM »
Just dropped in Australia so I just read it.

It was good.

(click to show/hide)

next part *is* a *major spoiler*- Fair Warning

(click to show/hide)

Hopefully it'll last me until Olympian Affair drops.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Q&A Fantasyfestival 2023 in Esbjerg/Denmark
« on: September 17, 2023, 03:32:53 PM »
Nice Notes! Very detailed glad you went!

Murphy's gonna have some thoughts and feelings about Harry marrying the White Court Queen Succubus.

Dissapointed about the various series that aren't happening. Maggie Jr YA and Tv series. Also always wanted to see a Maggie Sr prequel as well. ah well.

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Cinder Spires Books / Warrior Born Release Date! and Pre-Order! Amazon!
« on: August 04, 2023, 04:21:58 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD921ZLY

Sept 19th Pre Order on kindle available.

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