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DF Spoilers / Re: Black Council and the White Council Stupidity BG Spoilers
« on: October 03, 2020, 05:50:53 PM »
Quote from: Telynn on October 03, 2020, 03:34:39 PM
I think a BIG change for Carlos was the events with Molly.
I definitely agree with that. As I recall, he very nearly died and still hasn't fully recovered. Combine that with all of the events that Harry's been involved in from an outside perspective and it does look like Harry's gone to the dark side. Throw in some ignorance on both sides - Carlos thinks Harry knows what happened with Molly, Harry doesn't have a clue about that, yet Harry keeps low-key threatening to sic Molly on Carlos (even if that's not what Harry meant, it's easy to see Carlos interpreting it that way) - and it does sort of explain why he's changed...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab is grooming Harry to be a new Merlin that restarts the white council.
« on: October 02, 2020, 05:10:56 PM »
Interesting theory I saw on Reddit (apologies if its on here somewhere as well), but a lot of the stories about the original Merlin is that he is the son of a mortal and an incubus. White Court vamps are referred to frequently as succubi which is the feminine version so the theory was that Mab was looking toward a possible second generation Merlin with the Harry/Lara wedding. It's an interesting theory if nothing else.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Battle Ground spoilers: Harry’s pairing. What do you think?
« on: October 02, 2020, 02:36:03 PM »
Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on October 02, 2020, 06:26:31 AM
For that to happen Lara would have to go through a redemption arc and I'm not seeing that as likely. 
To be fair, Harry managed to redeem the Shadow of a Fallen Angel. A Whampire would seem to be easier to do that to than Lash. :P Not saying it'll happen, of course, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Battle Ground spoilers: Harry’s pairing. What do you think?
« on: October 01, 2020, 09:43:37 PM »
Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 09:40:00 PM
This suggests that Lara is either walking around always on, with no control over her hunger, or she's so attracted to Harry that she can't help but be attracted to him, and the hunger feels it too.
The former doesn't track with her established character as she's generally always "in control."

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Placard
« on: October 01, 2020, 08:34:52 PM »
Quote from: Mira on October 01, 2020, 08:29:25 PM

  So what happened to the Placard?  Is it still hanging up in Mac's bar?  Harry mentions getting the Spear and the Eye to Alfred to put away, but the Placard isn't mentioned.
Oh, good point. Would be interested to see if he could recover it or if it now belongs to Mac?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Harry OP? [Battle Ground Spoilers]
« on: October 01, 2020, 08:18:03 PM »
Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 08:02:07 PM
Right.  So things are known by most.  And you know how the magical community just loves to share info and rumor.

Wait, they don't?  Well still.  I think some of that word will be shared.
To be fair, Eb and Odin were there at the same time. Granted, Eb knew, but in the (unlikely) event that old One Eye didn't, well, he does now. :)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Harry OP? [Battle Ground Spoilers]
« on: October 01, 2020, 07:56:40 PM »
Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 07:53:44 PM
Someone recognized Margaret's necklace in BG (can't recall who at the moment).
The Erlking, I think. When Harry said she was his mom, he made a comment about how that explained some things about Harry & Susan and the Eebs crashing his place in "Changes."

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Harry OP? [Battle Ground Spoilers]
« on: October 01, 2020, 07:36:00 PM »
It certainly makes one understand why the White Council is afraid of him. Wait until they hear about the engagement!

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DF Spoilers / Re: Battle Ground spoilers: Harry and Lara new pairing. What do you think?
« on: October 01, 2020, 07:08:21 PM »
Quote from: Snark Knight on October 01, 2020, 07:04:48 PM
But she's hell on wheels as an ally, and they have a mutual project to save Thomas & Justine. I wouldn't mind seeing the dynamic of holding up a partnership while they're trying to hide from Mab that they aren't actually intimate get kicked around for a while.
While simultaneously trying to convince the Blackstaff that they're not involved at all. Ideally, at the same time. Whacky hijinks ensue.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Battle Ground spoilers: Harry’s pairing. What do you think?
« on: October 01, 2020, 06:49:31 PM »
Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 06:26:44 PM
One thing I came away from PT thinking was that Butcher had changed his tune on Lara.  He seemed to be going out of his way to make her more appealing to Harry, as well as make her his equal in some respects.  I was baffled at how weak she was at the end of PT, and now I'm baffled that she was that strong at the start of BG after being that weak at the end of PT.  I mean, I think her power levels in BG were appropriate, but still...

Anyway, she seems to be genuinely Interested in Harry.  I wouldn't call it True Love or anything like that, but I think she respects him and his power and she likes the way he looks.  But I'm not sure Lara even asked Mab to date Harry.  She might not have been thinking of Harry at all.  Mab said Lara "desired a binding alliance with Winter." Lara is modern-thinking enough to not necessarily think that a marriage is the way to accomplish that.  And it wouldn't surprise me if we end up seeing her express that in a later book, where she admits that she's not opposed to the idea out of hand, but that it wasn't her intention.  It'd go a long ways to making Harry more accepting of her role in the arrangement.

I noticed that as well and wondered if he'd changed his mind or if maybe the Mantle was altering Harry's perceptions slightly so she didn't quite come across as big of a monster or if she was actively trying to alter his perceptions (predicated on the latter revelation that she's trying to ally with Winter.)

Hmm. I know Carlos has soul-gazed Lara but I don't think Harry has. I could see him making that a requirement of the marriage so he knows how big of a monster she actually is...

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DF Spoilers / Re: BG Spoilerish, Looking for quotes through series
« on: October 01, 2020, 06:23:29 PM »
Well, in this case, it's Harry whose saying he's dumb-looking. :P

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DF Spoilers / Re: Battle Ground spoilers: Harry’s pairing. What do you think?
« on: October 01, 2020, 06:19:02 PM »
Quote from: Thana†os on October 01, 2020, 06:00:29 PM
For her to ask permission to court him (not marry specifically, that was Mab) is interesting to me. Lara does things for the White Court and for her power base and this would be that kind of arrangement for sure.
That was the thing that most interested me as well.
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and I still ultimately hope to see Harry/Molly - I get that he knew her as a kid and right now that's gross, but time passes and they are long-lived as wizards...time changes things, not to mention battling unspeakable things side by side together.
Yeah, I'm definitely in the "ewwwwww" camp. I see your point regarding time passing and all that, but it just icks me out. YMMV. :)

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DF Spoilers / Re: BG Spoilerish, Looking for quotes through series
« on: October 01, 2020, 04:57:57 PM »
I recall someone saying it in Summer Knight - "oh, creepy. He doesn't look that smart." But I can't recall exactly who it was...

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DF Spoilers / Re: WAG: Justin did not just take Harry, Elaine. He was working on Council orders
« on: October 01, 2020, 04:29:30 PM »
To be fair, as Harry said to Michael in ... Small Favor, I think, do we actually know that he (Harry) is the only one to have ever successfully beaten a Shadow? It isn't like the Nickelheads are going to advertise any such failures...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Battle Ground spoilers: Harry and Lara new pairing. What do you think?
« on: October 01, 2020, 04:27:08 PM »
Quote from: ClintACK on October 01, 2020, 10:31:30 AM
I wonder if there's a way for Lara to feed directly on the Winter Mantle -- I'm imagining something like the kiss at the end of White Night. Her power raises emotions in Harry for him to draw on to strengthen his magic, while she feeds on Winter, supercharging her Hunger's power.
In one of the interviews, Jim mentioned that Thomas could feed on Fae but would eat false emotion which would be the same as a normal human eating Fae food in the Nevernever, which would turn him into the monster as soon he returned to the real world. I wonder if the same would apply to the Winter Knight mantle? So if Lara did feed on it, she'd go bonkers.

Though ... didn't Mab explicitly tell her (Lara) not to feed on her Knight?

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