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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law
« on: July 31, 2022, 02:38:03 AM »
Harry only went to the Gold Coast to visit Thomas and Justine, and the last time he was there he and Eb were attacked by Outsiders. Was Nameless or Laplander responsible for whistling them in?

I'm not sure either of them qualify as enough of a free-willed mortal to summon Outsiders.

As a scion of a dark god and a mortal, Nameless might have qualified ... before completing whatever ascension his 'apotheosis' entailed. But if a scion turns himself into something entirely inhuman, doesn't that count as Choosing the immortal side of your parentage?

It's not totally clear whether hags (I'm figuring the Scandinavian ones are presumably cousins of the Hecatean hags from Welcome to the Jungle) are dark witches who've enhanced themselves, or something entirely inhuman. She'd probably have a better chance of being able summon Outsiders than Nameless, though.

Nonetheless, I still doubt Nameless and Laplander are Cowl and Kumori.  Kumori at least thinks she's a well-intentioned extremist - she used necromancy to save life, and she talked to Harry after getting the drop on him instead of just blasting him in the back. Ms. Laplander is just going through life looking for excuses to do violence, and Bob's analysis suggests that's entirely normal for what she is - it's not Nemfection twisting her, or a personal grudge Harry foiled the Darkhallow.  And Nameless himself doesn't have any good reason to explain having been plugged in to the White Council's Warden files on Harry and wondering what all the fuss is about. Nameless might well be involved with the Circle, but it doesn't seem credible he's been posing as human to infiltrate the Council and get high-clearance insider information.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Non- obvious things you want to see explained
« on: July 25, 2022, 06:17:13 PM »
I think there has been some talk about Nic; and by extension Anduriel, wanting to defeat the Outsiders, but do so in a way that probably wipes out most of humanity.  I could see the Red Court; if they were still around, not being very happy to see most of their food source disappear, but if Nic's plan involves the use of the Holly Grail or other items that were in Hades vault, I don't understand how the Red Court could get in Nic's way.

Perhaps something as simple as that their large, organized and powerful nation was a junior ally / effective proxy of the Outsiders?

Probably not a coincidence that as the Fomor stepped up into their niche, they were also trying to interfere in Nic's plan to go after the armory.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Non- obvious things you want to see explained
« on: July 25, 2022, 06:05:23 PM »
The White Court knew but this wasn’t common knowledge even in the White Council, Wizards and their secrets, look at Eb’s abject horror when he realised Maggie was staying with Harry.

Ariana was at the dinner with Eb and Maggie when they showed too much of their cards by "arguing like family". Changes was her plan; she was the only one who needed to know the connection.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Lara Raith marriage consummation
« on: July 25, 2022, 05:54:47 PM »
House Raith is led by female Whamps putting it at a disadvantage against the other houses, and leaving is vulnerable to take over by secondary lines like the cousins.

I'm not convinced Whamps subscribe to human notions of sexism, that having female leadership would be a disadvantage. The Malvora's were led by a woman until the coup attempt, and she was considered just as much of a threat to overthrow House Raith if Lord Raith's weakness became public as the Skavis kird was.  And the coup attempt killed not just the pair of them, but most of the second tier around them.

Lara is probably in more danger from other Raiths when the charade of her father being functional eventually fails than Raith overall is from any of the other houses. She's probably planning as much for that contingency as for external events in seeking the arranged marriage, whether it produces a child or not.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law
« on: July 13, 2022, 02:24:01 AM »
Remember how many of the SC came to Demonreach when Harry arranged his "parlor scene" / confrontation?  On the island, the Warden is a credible threat against Mab herself.  Those councilors -- senior as they are -- would fall like ninepins.  If they knew what Demonreach was, what it could do, they wouldn't have put themselves there when they had such doubts about Harry.

QED:  the "senior council" -- as a body -- doesn't know what the island really is, what it can really do.  Only a few of the individual wizards have any idea... and they're busy smoking their own crack-pipes, not sharing with the others.

Plus Ancient Mai talked about it like she didn't realize why the island was "unpleasant".

From his notes and Vadderung's "Most of the people", I think Eb was in the know as to what the island is.  LtW possibly also. But Rashid may not have shared with them that Harry had taken up the Warden mantle before they came to the island. Even those in the know probably expected Alfred to be "asleep".

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law
« on: July 13, 2022, 02:06:44 AM »
I just reread that scene, Mab's reaction was approval of Harry humbling Marcone in front of everyone, because it was with a sarcastic tone that he called him, "Sir."  Mab was clearly supporting Harry all through that though she didn't say much, she didn't have to, but she seemed to enjoy Harry getting the best of Marcone.

I was thinking of:
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Mab's eyebrow went up so far that it threatened the line of her skull. Then she said, as if to Marcone, "Much is explained."

She was backing Harry about claiming the castle because, as she pointed out later, sowing doubt about the whereabouts of the Eye even though everyone thinks he /probably/ has it is even better than advertising it.

But I don't think her reaction to the hint about Marcone holding Namshiel's coin reads as feigned. What purpose would faking it serve? She may have suspected, but this landed as confirmation for her.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law
« on: July 09, 2022, 09:10:48 PM »
Also I believe she knows that Namshiel had something to do with the attack on Arctis Tor, that Marcone had the coin and that it was only a matter of time before he took it up.  So Nameless is useful to her as one who can keep an eye on Marcone and all his business dealings, thus Namshiel.

I'm not sure why she'd react like Harry addressing Marcone as "Sir" at the end of BG was filling in a piece for her if she already knew.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law
« on: July 09, 2022, 07:12:33 PM »
I also believe that the island had been without a Warden for some time, the Merlin, if no one else should have known that.

That's also a good point. One of the more knowledgeable characters (Vadderung, I think?) at one point equated a Warden being active to the island being 'awake'.

I have some doubts Alfred, if awake, would have tolerated the Denarians doing a major working on the island's surface. If LaFortier was the Warden and left the defenses sufficiently down to allow them to do that, he wasn't much of a caretaker. Although, Alfred also took some years before introducing Harry to the actual capability to leave defenses turned on, so who knows?

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law
« on: July 09, 2022, 02:48:52 AM »
I think the intent in Turncoat was for Peabody to become Warden (he is an expert on summoning and binding, his book on Erl indicates that) but to do that he needed the current absentee Warden Dead, and if that was Fortier it explains why Peabody aimed the Captain at him for an otherwise motiveless killing. Unfortunately Harry by pure fluke beat him to it.

Perhaps. It would certainly be a stronger motive to take him out than what TC made clear.

But it depends on the WOJ that the rest of the Senior Council would turn on any of their fellow SC members who jump to a preemptive strike on any of their own fellow members who grabbed such personal power (and they only spared Harry because they realized he did it out of ignorance) being a strategic misdirect.

It's an odd thing to lie about, considering there's no obvious reason LaFortier being that previous Warden would be too spoilery to answer, let alone so spoilery to require misdirection. Especially when Jim volunteered Kemmler being the next-to-previous Warden quite near that comment, and that seems like a much bigger lore point than if the previous one was indeed LaFortier.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law
« on: July 09, 2022, 02:14:32 AM »
We learned that Kemmler had something to do with starting both WWI and WWII.

Wasn't that part mentioned previously?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cover Art For the New Novella, "The Law" and News?
« on: June 23, 2022, 01:48:42 PM »
Also says that it will be released soon on e-book format.  But no further information as to when, but said more announcements later this week, if that is so, that is great news for a lot of us.

Yeah, I'll wait. Not starting an Audible trial that I'm just going to have to cancel to get at this.

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But some time (not too long before the start of Dead Beat) Future!Harry took down Real!Cowl, and replaced him.  The guy Harry dueled at Bock Ordered Books was his future self.  Molly is Kumori, because (a) younger female sidekick Harry trusts, & (b) he needs the Winter Lady's immortality to use Mother Winter's Ways through time.

That theory has real problems with why FutureHarry would be curious to duel PresentHarry and see "what the Wardens are so worried about" & why he's disappointed to find Harry isn't stronger than he turns out to be, and why FutureMolly would ask what happened to his hand when PresentMolly already knows.  Weird things to mention solely for the purpose of misdirecting Harry if their identities are so very unlikely for him to have guessed anyway.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Curious Speculation From Cold Front
« on: June 12, 2022, 09:27:40 PM »
This means that it’s return could be requested at any time. I suspect that will occur when the Merlin tries to appoint a new Black Staff claiming Eb is no longer physically fit to wield it, and won’t against Harry. He needs only a Council majority.

Is it actually awarded by Council vote? The senior council would have to vote on it secretly, since the Blackstaff's very existence isn't even acknowledged to all the membership.

I seem to remember something about the blackstaff choosing the successor - although it was ambiguous whether that meant the office-holder or the artifact itself. If the staff itself is semi-sentient and choosing the wizard, it might not give a damn for political niceties like "is the wizard actually a member of the White Council".

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DF Spoilers / Re: Other Whamp houses?
« on: June 12, 2022, 12:09:02 AM »
AFAIK, all Hunger Demons feed off negative emotions.
I think some sort of variant (that could feed off positive emotions) would be a very cool thing... but that's kind of the mortal schtick.  We are uplifted and empowered by our love, by our joy.

I think there was a WOJ that it might be possible for a whamp to feed on positive emotions, but they'd probably start to get 'sparkly'.

Their dietary preferences aren't ingrained, after all - Madrigal proved that by feeding on fear instead of lust. Presumably if they're willing to put enough effort and trial & error into it, other emotions beyond the big three negative ones are possible, with positive ones likely being much more difficult to change their attunement to.

It's probably not an accident that the big three are roughly opposite to the three virtues embodied in the Swords, though.
Lust vs Love.
Despair vs Faith.
Fear vs Hope.

I wonder if Skavis and Malvora tend to lose a lot more of their youth to never activating their powers than Raiths do ... I'd say a majority of people don't have their first sexual experience as true love (as much as they might be confused about that at the time), but blundering into scaring someone to death or tweaking them into despair enough to commit suicide would be rarer.

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DF Spoilers / Re: King Arthur's Scabbard
« on: June 03, 2022, 06:05:20 PM »
The swords do no change shape either, they change form. The Sword of Faith has moved more into the spiritual and away from the physical, but it is still a Sword. Nick has also had it since the time of Christ.

Michael did say they had records of the other two besides Excalibur being reforged at some point in the KOTC's history, though. They may have changed shape somewhat then.

But I agree with the core point. Nic probably got his coin and the noose direct off Judas' body and has been holding it ever since.

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