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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 26, 2018, 01:32:10 AM »
How do you think translation works?
With license. The turn of phrase wasn’t invented for that series of stories. How many languages do you speak?  You don’t really translate things word for word.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 25, 2018, 02:16:21 AM »
It's actually a paraphrase of a Bible quote, uttered by Christ. John 2.4.  Evidently referring to his Crucifixion.
You know those books weren’t written in english, right?  That means the translator just used an existing phrase.  :P

Speaking of ancient stories and their translations, I absolutely love the Grene, Latimore english versions of Aeschylus and Sophocles. Some of the lines in Agamemnon are amazing.

And, on the figurative “hour” stuff, you have to love Yeats’ The second coming. As a member of the golden dawn, his verse was full of interesting imagery!
Quote
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 23, 2018, 10:19:07 PM »
You mean the accused has rights?. I don’t see any evidence for that. The Merlin fully expected Harry to have killed Molly in stead of calling Edinburgh and wasting everyone’s time.

Fair trial is not high on the list. If the accused usually does not get to say anything, has no formal defender, is blindfolded and can not understand what is going on because everything is said in a dead language you can not expect other considerations of fair trial to be high on the list.

And even Molly did not get a second soul gaze. Even when the Merlin did not trust Harry at all. The Merlin probably thought one soul gaze was already overkill. She was proven guilty, kill her and be done with it.
You asked “why should” there be more than one person essentially on the jury. Whatever the case with this organisation, I answered why there should be. :)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 22, 2018, 10:19:11 PM »
Why should several wizards look in the same sewer? One is more than enough thank you.
An obvious reason is that someone can lie, be biased, or just be mistaken as a single source of judge and jury.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who fixed Little Chicago?
« on: August 21, 2018, 10:37:54 PM »
:)
I've been going to they gym, swimming, and walking.  After they finally/recently diagnosed low B12 and sleep apnea for me and treated me for it, I've gotten lots better.
Nice! Congrats. I’m about to rejoin my gym. I used to go 4-5 days a week, but stopped for a few years after a bad running injury. I really miss it. Have you seen Primer yet?  You gotta see it if you haven’t! It’s the best time travel film, ever.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who fixed Little Chicago?
« on: August 19, 2018, 12:58:52 AM »
Unless the other side broke it to start with?

but thats a whole new level of conspiracy
Not the same topic, but back to the LC topic. This made me muse that maybe LC was broken by a foe and that no one actually fixed it, per se. If a time trazel foe arrived and broke it (I remember Bob saying the flaw was previously unseen despite prior scrutiny), then Dresden could have also time travelled and stopped the foe through interference. The overlapping timelines would all still require cause and effect It’s all a bit fuzzy, but maybe LC was never fixed because it was never broken in the final version of that timeline.  :o

To illustrate.
Timeline 1 (TL1)- LC is fine, not broken
TL2- foe or foes time travel and, through some method, cause flaw in LC which Bob notes
TL3- timeline now contains ramifications from TL2. Future Dresden goes back and defeats foe or foes and, in so doing, negates flaw from occurring with LC and whatever else foe or foes achieved to a greater or lesser extent
TL4- this is the timeline we are viewing when LC is “fixed”. Many other things from future Dresden’s TL3 will also have changed, but this is not TL1

The text of the books could have contained a bit of all the above timelines without alerting the reader.

Where’s raidem? Look, I’m talking about time travel!

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DF Spoilers / Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« on: August 19, 2018, 12:48:04 AM »
Same way Sir Stewart acts in Star Trek, I guess.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 08, 2018, 03:03:27 AM »
No you can’t because those stains could have many causes not all caused by breaking the laws. They are also very subjective and you don’t want to execute someone just because is not Lilly white enough just because of a soul gaze, you need extra evidence especially if someone is already a group member.

That is why they wanted to invalidate his membership. You can do all kind of things with people who do not belong.

And Harry already had some stains from killing Justin. Just being stained is not breaking laws. The grey wardens are probably all a bit stained if you look at it from the perspective of someone whe kept his soul particularly clean.
While discussing this and some other stuff recently, it struck me that it’s  interesting how matter of factly many responses are when discussing things that aren’t actually in the books. I don’t necessarily mean this answer, but in general.

Re: invalidating his membership
That’s why I speculated that Rashid could have had returning Dresden to the fold by obligating him with payment as an ulterior motive. Essentially, to keep him from having “other” status and so being the object of fear because, as evinced by history, frightened people are scary.

Having said that, I do have the feeling that the Merlin doesn’t currently want Dresden dead, though that is subject to change! It’s my speculation that, st the moment, he finds him more useful alive than dead. They could have a whole bromance buddy cop adventure, the Merlin and Dresden. That could be fun.

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DF Books / Re: The Growing Time Gap in DF Releases
« on: August 08, 2018, 02:32:50 AM »
The man is at his peak marketability, so he has a lot of side projects, appearances and so to take advantage. That’s not a complaint; I say good for him. It’s what all (most) action adventure popcorn fiction writers dream of achieving and congrats to him for reaching it. Early in his career, he struggled to make it and so pushed with book after book to make his name. Now that he has made it, I hope he’s enjoying himself and capitolising on his success. I read some people talked a bit about his personal life having some ups and downs, but I’ve no interest in his private affairs as that’s his business. Just remember to account for any author to be human like the rest of us with his or her own life to live beyond work.

It does make waiting for a new book longer for the fans, but there are plenty of other things to occupy one’s time in life. :)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 07, 2018, 01:37:43 AM »
We know from death masks that she didn't, Butters did the autopsy's. Harry got off because no one, not even butters could determine how most of the actual human remains died.
I thought these acts were supposed to leave some sort of stain on the perpetrator?  Couldn’t they just take a look at Dresden for such “stains”?  There were quite a few dead, so it wouldn’t have been too subtle. Molly used magic to try to help a baby and a couple of junkies and Dresden saw the darkness in her in his gaze thingie. Morgan was cray-cray in Storm Front, lusted for blood in later books, but where was he after this? Maybe on holiday in Ibiza?

Punishment aside, wasn’t killing all those people supposed to affect Dresden in some major way? The current books talk about Eb’s staff protecting him which leads to the conclusion that there’s something to protect against. So, what, if anything, happened to Dresden?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Lara suborning the Paranet?
« on: August 05, 2018, 07:37:07 PM »
If I remember correctly, the paranet was organised via the internet. You don’t have to personally compromise anyone to know all, but rather hire IT expert or three to track and analyse everything. And, if they want to be riskier, they can use malware so they know everything and, at a critical moment, could take over the network.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 05, 2018, 07:21:04 PM »
And heatwave yes. I could not sleep the night before but this night I was so tired that I just passed out.
It’s literally not cool how hot it’s been. 36 here midweek and swedish buildings are made for holding heat in like an oven. By night, it’s 30+ inside. At least I’m not in Portugal or Spain where I think I read it will be 46+ this week. My husband almost bought an ac for us in may, but decided against. Now, you can’t buy one in the whole country.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 05, 2018, 07:11:04 PM »
@Ananda: The Laws of magic are about preventing black magic. If in the councils view it won't cause you to become stained with black magic they 100% don't care, (at leat as an organisation, individual members will have distinct views but the council as a whole will have no formal policy).

A wizard could go around using magic to rough people up and extract protection money and whilst a good piece of the White Council wouldn't approve as individual's, the Council as a whole wouldn't do a thing to stop them, it isn't against the Laws of magic and thus isn't there problem unless it threatens to splash back on them in some way, (like say getting the council put on an arrest on sight watchlist), that threatens them with retribution from someone else. Even then it would be about protecting the Council's continued existence, not about the actions that created said threat.
Right, I read that stuff in the books, too, but I was thinking more political expediency and manipulation of situation to get rid of people. Certainly, they’ve used politics and trickery to attempt certain ends within their laws before. There’s pure logic and then there’s cunning and manipulating a framework for a desired end.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dresden/Anakin
« on: August 05, 2018, 03:43:58 AM »
Anakin Skywalker.
(click to show/hide)
Oh! I’m not a fan of star wars, but, now you say it, I know why it seemed familiar. I’ve seen most of the films. I was thinking DF characters and couldn’t quite place it.  ;D

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
« on: August 05, 2018, 03:37:42 AM »
The salary is important. When you get a salary from someone you acquire obligations with it. Harry is a warden as long as they pay his salary and he accepts it.
Part 2 response because F this heatwave in Europe! I can’t sleep!

I was thinking about your reply in concert with Rashid’s conversation with Dresden. Upon reading that bit in the book, I had just assumed Rashid was being kind. But, now, with what you said about obligation due to the monies, I find I’m rethinking the just being kind assessment. Was Rashid purposely bringing Dresden into obligation? 

If so, I wonder what his various motives were? Some could be as a measure of protection to keep Dresden from becoming “other” to the council. Others could be less altruistic. Now you say this, though, it seems very calculated to re-obligate Dresden to me.


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