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DF Books / Shorts on Audible?
« on: December 01, 2019, 01:19:26 AM »
Have Side Jobs or Brief Cases made it onto Audible (by Marsters, or anyone else)?

Or even have any individual shorts been recorded, if not entire collections?


Edit:  welp, I'll take that to be a "nope."  :-(

 

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DF Spoilers / WAG: the Rent
« on: October 11, 2019, 11:15:04 PM »
Haven't read the new short, but the "Rent" is something that's been niggling at me, wanted to get this notion out there...

1.  GG feels he's a "bad guy," possibly because half-Naagloshii, yo! or just psychological "daddy issues" or "self-image" problems, etc.

2.  Possibly from his mother's rearing, he has in fact a decent moral sense; he knows what's right.  He probably doesn't always do it... maybe he used to do the Wrong Thing because he thought he "had to" or similar bullshit.

3.  Now he's trying to reform, to do the Right Thing.  But from #1 and #2, he feels he's WAY into the negative side of the ledger, has done too much evil, doesn't "deserve" another chance.

4.  Nevertheless, here he is:  he lives, he exists.  And thinks he doesn't deserve to... doesn't deserve space and life within Creation.

5.  Therefore, GG pays Rent.  He takes on WhiteHat cases, and he goes up against BlackHat foes, and he charges a fee so trivial as to be meaningless -- that is the Rent he pays for his "living space."

( 6.  He's wrong -- he has free will, could just "be good" and not go through the "paying rent" ritual; but he isn't sure of it. )
 

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DF Spoilers / Who are the Good badguys? Who are the bad Goodguys?
« on: September 26, 2019, 07:56:26 PM »
Elsethread, @Yuillegan quoted a WOJ:

"I know that a lot of the folks that are generally perceived as bad guys aren’t necessarily, there are several who are currently perceived as good guys who aren’t necessarily, and we’ll continue to have those fall out over the next several books"
2011 Boston Signing

So who are the "bad guys" who "aren't necessarily?"

I think we've seen the groundwork for a redemption-arc for Marcone.  He's long been protective of children, his "criminal empire" has -- overall -- reduced violence and collateral damage, his entire being is defined in large part as remorse for an early mistake, and (most telling from the Doylist POV) he took a huge personal risk in the Raith Deeps to rescue people "because you're the only one who can..." which is pretty much Harry Dresden's own motivation -- nobody else could/would, so Harry had to step up.  Like Marcone did.

Mab, of course, is busy being Cold As Ice so she can save the whole world... no matter the personal cost to her.  A thousand years without contacting her sister, ordering that her own daughter be killed.  Mab's already a goodguy... in her own veins-of-icewater way.

All of the Demonreach prisoners are "bad guys" by definition, but the "British" one seems likely to get more screen-time and to turn into some version of a "Good (or at least not utterly bad) Guy."  I mean, what's the Warden of a prison for, if not to sometimes bend the rules...?

Nicodemus Archleone may have an arc like Marcone's coming.  Sacrificing his own daughter clearly hit him very deeply, and it may be working "below the surface" in a similar (but slower) manner to Harry's rage when he learned about his daughter.  Nic with a Sword trying to redeem Tessa could be a scene worth reading.  Nic with a Sword trying to save Anduriel's next host would be pretty amusing, too.

Kumori's "we can end death" ideal is clearly some version of wanting to do the right thing, and could slip to lighter and lighter shades of gray (the same way I fear Eb may have slipped to darker shades); her criticism against the WC seems mostly to be that they are corrupt and not actually being very whitehat, which... kind of puts her into a white hat herself.  Even Cowl's efforts seem to include doing good (such as trying to Darkhallow in order to prevent "those maniacs" from doing it); we don't know a lot about his other motivations.

Others?

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And who are the "good guys" who "aren't necessarily?"

To begin with, I note that LOTS of Harry's allies through the years have paid a pretty heavy price.  Maybe one/some of the Alphas comes to the conclusion that Harry is more of a problem than a solution (as just one example).

I'm worried about Molly.  She watched as cute Karrin jerked his heart around, as ultra-hot Susan jerked his heart around, as lovely ex Elaine jerked his heart around; and then learned Harry got Susan pregnant (remember the last time her guy got another girl pregnant?  yeah, I remember that too).  She warned Harry about the personal cost to her, if he involved her in his suicide; and sure enough, the Rag Lady strayed to the borders of sanity... where F'ing Lea found her and began training her.  Then Harry pulled her out to Demonreach and the Winterlady mantle fell on her... so then Mab began training her.  Molly seems happy, now... Well, happy-ish, mostly.  Which honestly is pretty damned disturbing, given what she's been through in the past few years... mostly, courtesy of Mr. Dresden.

And speaking of Elaine... I like her, but I think she's teetering if not fully on the bad side.  Specifically, I think she's a Nemesis agent, the vector from Justin (Outsider-summoner) to Aurora.  She retains at least some free will -- mortals are such a problem that way! -- so she left Harry that clue to free himself in SK.  But she's being a sleeper agent, working for the Paranet and relatively trusted by the other good guys.

I expect that at least one Senior Council member who seems like a goodguy is not.  Everyone suspects Cristos, so I'm betting he's just trivially "bad:"  a bit power-grubbing, marginal morals and worse ethics, but not into the really EvilTM stuff; at most, unwittingly a puppet of the BC.  Langtry just looks like a garden-variety Jerk, trying mostly to "do the right thing" within the context of being a stick-up-the-ass sorta guy (which could actually be a nice bit of Doylist cover for being a dyed-in-the-wool villain); my biggest objection to him being Black Council is that if the Merlin were BC... they'd have already won.  I mean seriously, Peabody & the Merlin between them would have made the WC a tangled mess of pure ineffectuality.  Maybe Injun Joe saw (during the Ramp war) how bad the White Council's don't-get-involved has been (lots of mesoamerican misery from that, raising specters from his own tribe's death), and the Black Council wins him over with the "we will finally begin Doing Something" line; I like IJ, I'd hate for him to be a bad guy; but I can see the story-arc of despair...  I don't have enough of a "read" on Martha Liberty, but my gut says she's clear.  Rashid is almost certainly a Good Guy, but maybe in a similarly cold-blooded "make any sacrifice needed" way as Mab is.  Eb is kinda on the fence, for me:  he's far, far too used to making compromises, accepting bad here in return for good there, "necessary evils," and all the rest; lots of whitehat's have slipped grayer and grayer trying to Do The Right Thing At Any Cost, and ended up wearing hats so dark-gray as to be indistinguishable from blackhats.

My money is on Ancient Mai, for one reason:  the stone guard dogs are hers.  How could they possibly have missed the ubiquitous mind-control black magic that Peabody was using on all the Council, all the Wardens?  They couldn't have missed it, unless they were made to miss it.  She was VERY badly shaken when Harry showed up with Mouse.  She vouched for Mouse's testimony to the Council, which seems not-BC... except that she wasn't the only wizard there who could vouch, so trying to discredit a genuine Foo Dog would render her a suspect, too.  Hypothetically, one could posit that Peabody had some special "guard dogs won't detect this" magic, but there's been no real hint of that (rather, we see the dogs tend to be a bit hairtrigger, alerting on lots of non-problems).  The black-hat fits Mai better than anyone else.

And -- as I opened the SC can of worms by saying -- it's "at least one" not "at most one," so my strong suspicion about Mai shouldn't be taken as clearing other suspects!

Other thoughts?
 

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DF Spoilers / Q re new short (dropping 8 Oct '19)
« on: September 22, 2019, 07:53:43 PM »
Despite this being the spoiler forum, I'll be a tad circumspect and S-block that this story is
(click to show/hide)

The question I have, though, is:  when is it set?  Where does it fit onto the Dresdenverse Timeline?

Or do we not know this info yet?

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DF Spoilers / "At last the masquerade ends! Kill them! Kill them /all/!"
« on: September 07, 2019, 03:02:07 AM »
This is Vittorio's line, near the end of Chap.38 of White Night.

It suddenly struck me:  "At last" ??!?  ???

I mean, the only thing that had just happened was that Madrigal the Schmuck had contracted a severe case of Dead.  Why is THAT the signal to launch Ghoulmageddon?

It seemed like Harry & Carlos were genuinely a surprise, that Vittorio (and Madrigal) weren't expecting them.  So the Ghoulmageddon plan was aimed at the Wraith Deeps already (even a badass like Coul needs a place to stage his uberghouls, time to gather them... the logistics don't end just because you're an archmage).  The aim, evidently, was to decapitate the entire White Court -- Raith, Malvora, and Skavis -- in one blow (presumably placing King Vittorio on the throne, but who (besides Cowl) really knows, at this point?).

The thing is, Vittorio could (I'd say should!) have performed the beheading as soon as everyone was there:  by waiting, he lets various plots and plans advance, possibly causing one or more of the targets to flee the event being held in their honor, and blunting the strike.

Even after Team Dresden arrived, there was this interval while the Schmuck sent for weapons.  Everyone was lounging around looking forward to the show; guards were, if not lowered, at least a defcon step less primed:  everyone WANTED the show, and DIDN'T want it disrupted.  So they had all pulled their horns in, to not give offense, not Start Something that might interfere with the spectacle to come...  THEN, if ever, Vittorio could have gotten a surprise-attack launched while everyone was waiting for the Party To Start.

But Vito waited until Madrigal died; then he broke cover and went all Igor/ArnaudAmalric on them.

Why then?

I'm not clear else what was going on that night, but I'm pretty sure something else happened that I didn't notice...

Anyone?

Bueller?

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DF Spoilers / Who knows what Ivy REALLY is?
« on: July 31, 2019, 12:13:00 AM »
Ivy, we all know, is "the Archive."

Luccio explains part of what that means, to Harry; so, the WC knows that much.  Probably most signatories to the Accords understand (more or less) about the Archive knowing everything that's written.

But (so far as I can see) "the Archive" is also the supreme commander of the Oblivion War.  At the least, she is an integral part of it, and high up in the echelons.

Who knows that information?  Very few folks even know the "Oblivion War" even exists.  Thomas and Lara, I think, are the ones in the stories Jim has told to date (and Bob, now), but I don't think ANY of them know Ivy's role (I suspect Bob may be able to deduce it).  Ivy probably (IMHO) has told Kinkaid:  we don't know if she has, but it would make good sense for her primary defender to be best aware of likely opponents.  And he doesn't need to actually know the dangerous information -- names, summoning rituals, etc -- to understand the threats & the context.

And I think that's it?

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DF Spoilers / What does Ivy know?
« on: July 31, 2019, 12:00:56 AM »
We know that she sees/knows/whatever everything that gets written down.

We have WoJ, IIRC, that this includes teh Interwebz.

What about non-text?  Drawings, paintings, etc?  Does she "know" all the labels on a technical drawing, but not see the image they are labeling?  She know all the praise heaped in print onto the Mona Lisa, but does she need to go see it in-person to know what all the hype is about?

She saw the script for Star Wars (and every other movie, including those that never got beyond the script) but does she "see" the movies that are made, as they are recorded onto film (and now digital)?

Speaking of digital (and teh Interwebz) -- that all comes down to 1's & 0's, which is textual (digits being text) in addition to being logical... so does that mean everything online, not just stuff that's obviously-text?


I mean, I can see all manner of grand strategic (and even close-tactical) advantages.

But... I'm being kind of skeeved-out here.  All that porn, all that hate-speech, private journals of the psychotic, etc etc etc...  In the head of little Ivy.
 
What about it, folks?  Ya got any sort of relief for me, from my creepy ideas?

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DF Spoilers / What is the scope of a Soulgaze?
« on: July 09, 2019, 07:00:58 PM »
We know that it's part of the Wizard's Sight.

We know it lets a wizard see the core or essence of a person (and be seen, in return).

Several seem to be "snapshot of the soul" events, where some archetypal symbolic "tableau" is emplaced.  Thomas in the black-and-white desolate Olympus, facing his demon in the mirror; Marcone's sterile steel "tiger's soul;" Rasmussen chained to the cliffside; etc.

Others are different.

Helen Beckitt was re-living her daughter's "death," a clear and distinct memory.

Molly was a hall-of-mirrors many; like a bunch of future-soulgazes (which launches a whole new notion -- are we seeing the first instances of Harry having time powers alongside his other known strengths?).
 
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Maybe it's no more than Jim using them for dramatic purpose; that there isn't so much a "unified theory" as a vague theme centered around what can happen in a Soulgaze.

Is there WoJ?  Or a more-expansive exposition scene by Harry, or Bob?

(I post here in Spoilers in case there's a Soulgaze I don't know of, in a recent short / comic I haven't read)
 

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DF Books / Does the WhiteCouncil know Justin had a 2nd apprentice?
« on: July 09, 2019, 06:41:10 PM »
We know that they don't know Elaine was DuMorne's apprentice.  She successfully fooled Ramirez into believing she wasn't quite strong enough to be WC'ed.  They don't connect her to DuMorne at all.

But... do they "know of" that 2nd apprentice, at least as a matter of history?  Is it unequivocally stated (either way) anywhere?

I think they likely do know.  They had Harry, who wasn't likely to "defend" or "hide" Elaine, since he expected she was dead when they questioned him.  If they searched, the Summer Court protections would have blocked their searches the same as they later blocked Harry's.

He'd have testified that she trapped him for Justin's mental assault.  "Justin's other apprentice attacked me" is part of Harry's defense.

It's also possible that the ruins held signs of another resident, that the labs showed signs of a 2nd apprentice; there may have been "women's stuff" around -- clothing, accessories, etc, unlikely to be either Justin's or Harry's.

Finally... didn't they both attend public school?  They did homework together, did magic together, did... other stuff together.  But the public-school records would have revealed the DuMorne enrolled TWO students.

He also may have mentioned her to Eb, out at Hog Wallow farm.  Young guy, still processing on his First Love betraying him, and coming to respect Eb... Harry ain't exactly a gushing fount of emote-all-over, but getting the wisdom of a respected elder on a very troubling matter... THAT I can see.

(edit to correct an issue of what Harry saw during the fire)

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DF Spoilers / Who is on the Grey Council?
« on: May 22, 2019, 11:47:02 PM »
Like it says on the tin...

Eb, for sure.  Founder after all!
Harry, as a "junior" member.

Vadderung, almost certainly.
Rashid, I think.
Listens to Wind, I think.
Ancient Mai, I think.
Mab (if they can bring themselves to trust her enough; or identify sufficient risk-mitigation).
...
After that, I'm really unsure.

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DFRPG / Publicity?
« on: April 16, 2019, 03:37:46 AM »
Hey...  just had a thought...
 
Might it be possible to make a list of folk that were active on the jim-butcher.com version of the forum, but haven't been active on the Paranet, and drop an invitation to their e-mails of record?
 
I'm sure plenty of them know of the new site and are just "not getting around to it," but for some, it may just have dropped off the radar...
 

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DFRPG / Still "the official site?" Does Iago visit/answer?
« on: July 11, 2018, 07:47:49 PM »
So, yeah.
Pretty much as per the topic.  Is this still any sort of "official" for EH, or just another social media account like FB or Reddit or whatever?
And, is this a "good" place to query (as in, get the attention of Iago / EH, and a likely reply if he/they deem it worth posting said reply to a forum about new DFRPG/DFA/etc content, ask about errata, "official" rulings, etc... ?  And yes, I do realize they have a pretty hands-off & minimalistic approach to "official rulings" and the like ...

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DFRPG / general (non-DF) Fate forum?
« on: January 03, 2018, 08:03:51 PM »
Hi, folks...

What (in y'alls humble opinions) are the best places for general "fate" discussion and insight?  Variations like "Strange Fate" and "Strands of Fate" and FAE and etc etc etc.  What does one do more-readily than another?  What are the "sweet spots" of each?  And so forth...

My gaming-group met on NewYearsEve, not for RPG but doing sundry board/party/etc games with lots of finger-foods in a play/munch/party/visit/etc evening; there was discussion of "next (RPG) game," and I asked after an idea someone had mentioned last RPG session -- a world-hopping / parallel-planes sort of game.

Previously, I had been all "Welp, looks like Luther Arkwright!" (a sourcebook for Mythras (in the BRP/d100 family) based on the British graphic novels about that character' and a very worthy game (&setting) if you're looking around for Gaming Goodness!).

But in this more-recent conversation, I learned that the player was interested in a much more Fate-y style game, with collaborative world-building and narrative-emphasis characters, etc.  And while I know of no "parallel planes" setting pre-done for Fate, there are sooo many worlds out for Fate that a parallel-planes-hopping campaign is pretty easy to implement!

But I'd like to find a venue where all-flavors-of-Fate are equally discussed and disected...  and hopefully, a venue not on the verge of closing up shop  :'(

Any suggestions?

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DFRPG / JUST like the Dresdenverse... but not!
« on: December 07, 2016, 10:39:43 PM »
    I am considering a DFRPG game, because almost all my players know and like the DF novels; but:
    • I don't want to get into the issue of degrees to which different people remember the "canon" of DF novels/shorts, and differences-of-opinion as to what-things-meant, etc.
    • Not everyone is equally up-to-date in the stories
    • I don't want to get into the canonical plot/metaplot issues, including where-in-the-series (esp. pre/post "Changes") our game begins
    • I don't want to stray into FanFic / MarySue territory, e.g. "My character is a BFF of Karrin Murphy"
    • I *DO* want to start with lots of unknown setting-details they can discover in-character, through play.  I'm planning to start maybe feet-in-the-water'ish (a bit clued-in, but most of what they "know" is pretty vague, no detail)

    The rules (both Dresdenverse metaphysic, and DFRPG mechanics) and the "feel" of my 'verse will be the same-ish (I hope!), but few-to-none of the specifics will match.  I'm hoping for some input/suggestions from the community here (hence, this post!) .

    Some of my WIP ideas (so far, all subject to change):

    I'm envisioning TWO sorts of diversion from Dresden canon.   First: most of the supernatural elements will be similar-flavored but differently-detailed...
    • NO Denarians with 30 coins.  Probably instead the Seven Deadly Sins (one demon per, each with their own cultic followers); probably delving into Islamic "Iblis/Shaytan" and Hebraic "ha-satan," and possibly deciever/destructor figures from older mythologies.
    • NO "Knights of the Cross."  Probably a different (and varying) number of "relic-wielders:"  sometimes just a few, sometimes dozens.  The Church tries to identify these and offer them support, protection, etc (as per DF Knights); but these are direct Servants of God, and the Church isn't really in charge (the Boss got that "ineffable" thang goin' on, doncha know!).  Some relics/wielders pass through the world unknown to the Church!.  N.B:  not all are "warrior" types!
    • "Enlightened" and/or "holy" folk of other faiths (not just Abrahamic), with similar Holy Powers.
    • YES to Blampires (I just can't let go of "Stoker's Guide to Vampire-Slaying" ! ;-) ) but a bit tweaked, likely a bit AnitaBlake-ish (different bloodlines = different powers) but always classic Blampire weaknesses (no Blakeian "Day-Walkers" dammit!).
    • NO Whampires/Rampires; however, different-sorts-of-Vamps will still be A Thing:
      • Ashanti Asanbosam
      • Philippine Asawang
      • Japanese Nukekubi
      • others from 'round the world
      • probably I'll add at least 1 wholly-invented sort (I'm working on a "Dream-Thief" vamp).
    • ? ? ? Faeries -- deprecating the Winter/Summer thing, mostly.  I'm considering a much-more-folkloric (and thus more-regional & less-unified) view
      • Norse/Teutonic Ljosalfar/Dokkalfar (most-similar to DF-canon Summer/Winter)
      • Celtic "Fair Folk" and then Yeats' "Trooping/Solitary" division, with bits of Seelie/Unseelie sometimes crossing that.
      • Many other somewhat-faerie folkloric traditions (such as when the Blackstaff showed up with a small army of Kenku (traditionally called a form of "goblin" or even "demon" by some, but IMHO much more faerie-like) )
      • Various other "Nevernever" beings may be "faerie-like" or not, depending
      • There is DEFINITELY still a Wild Hunt!  (I'd be too afraid of the consequences of slighting Them!)

Second, there will be some "alt-history" vs. the Dresdenverse; MANY things happened differently over the past few millenia:
  • NO singular "White Council" of wizards.  Probably instead something more fragmented:
    • a semi-feudal "Olde Council" in Europe
    • a semi-democratic "New Council" in North America
    • a "Celestial Bureaucracy" governing Asian wizards... from a "court" in the Nevernever!
    • a more-fragmented / non-governing group (except in the face of threat) of Afro+Caribbean Vodun/Bo Traditions
    • etc...
  • Kemmler happened.  In fact, the Olde Council power-structure is STILL in shambles!
  • Major "geosupernatural" tensions on the border of "New Council" and Vodun territories
  • etc...

Basically, I'm looking at a 'verse that -- if I were to write it up in novelization form -- is clearly an homage to DF at best (and probably just a cheap rip-off).  But as my in-house RPG... it's BOTH an homage AND a cheap rip-off, and I'm OK with that!

Extra brainstorming & input -- and criticisms of anything obviously or inobviously "broken" that I've missed -- are very very welcome!

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DFRPG / so ... DunDraCon ?
« on: October 26, 2016, 05:14:36 PM »
Coming up in the San Francisco Bay Area this February 17-20 (USAian President's Day Weekend) is DunDraCon.
http://www.dundracon.com/
It's a really nice little/local 'Con!  And with quite a history ... this being DDC 41 (yeah, forty-one!)

Anyone planning to run DFRPG there?  <nudge, nudge>  They are still accepting GM-proposals (through late December).  The 'Con waives the registration-fee and gives "priority registration" (into another game) for anyone who runs a full game (aim for 6ish players for 6-8 hours, although more/fewer players for more/fewer hours are possible).

Or, really, ANY implementation of Fate core-ish (rather than FAE) ...

I remain under-exposed to any really good examples in-play of the Fate engine.  Sure, I've seen write-ups and I've played in DFRPG games... but nothing that has really provided that "a-ha" moment where I *see* why Fate gets so much love.  I have an abstract/intellectual sense of the thing, but not a FEEL for it... if you know what I mean.

So, I'm hoping for another pass at this.  Not just a regular "gaming-session" game, but an RPG used as an exposition of why and HOW the Fate mechanics excel at the things where it does excel.

Of course, I'm also interested in straight-up games, without my trying to grok things or the GM trying to showcase the mechanics...   ;D
 

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