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DF Spoilers / Re: Has anyone put Nic's plan togther?
« on: July 12, 2017, 05:00:43 PM »
Yanno, my first reaction about a nic/Mavra team up was meh. But I could see Nic thinking the only real hope for reality is banding the powers of "dark" together to fight the incursion from outside. After all, the gates are protected by Mab.

If he was working from that line of thinking, it would more or less explain all of his actions. He has had 2000 years to snatch up power, but he doesn't seem to go in for controlling or toppling governments, he could probably own most of a continent by now if he wanted to. But in the last ten years he has made a play for power from the plague curse, the archive, and the artifacts in the vault. Certainly sounds like he is accelerating his grab for power.

He knows a war is coming and it even sounds like we know what side he is on. It would be precisely within his character to think that he is realities only hope, and uniting other powers behind him (dark ones obviously) is how he can do it. And if he happens to come out of it with enough power to make himself god-king of the universe in the aftermath,
So much the better.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Current DR wardens
« on: April 16, 2016, 10:02:19 AM »
Seeing as the island was a huge magical construction, would it not make sense for the creator to have built the never never side as well? There is potential places that reflect the well, like the underworld specificly tarturus. An aspect of the well could be formed to link and bind it, to empower and secure. I can imagine something like the lighthouse or the cottage of the island, intruding onto those reflections.
Look at what a body jumping necromancer and a spirit of intellect was able to build for never never defenses. If the well is so epic, imagine that magic used to construct their one bit of e never never.

I think it is a chicken and egg kind of thing.

Possibility A: You build the place, and it will become linked to parts of the never never that are sympathetic to it's nature. Then, you go there and build up the defenses to suit your liking. B: You figure out a way to link what you are building to a specific point in the never never and build on both sides at the same time. C: Use the act of creating the physical place to forge out a pocket of the never never that will be linked to it, and build your defenses in the pocket after or during physical construction.

I dont think it really matters which one is correct.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Current DR wardens
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:57:18 AM »
Hmm... interesting... though I've had the impression (for no particular reason I can cite) that when Harry is "below the island" where the "cells" are located that he's more in a "pocket dimension" rather than some general "place" in the NN - sort like Agatha Hagglethorn's personal demesne.

It would make sense to have very limited access - if DR doesn't let you in you don't get there.  It prevents "breakout" attempts because there's no way to "tunnel" in from elsewhere, etc.

But even her pocket dimension was technically a part of the never never.

But the main thing I was thinking was that he could gain all kinds of knowledge of ways and things. We know there are ways onto the island, the traitor and one other shadowy person took on to the island in TC. If he can figure out the way to some of the places DR touches that would be really useful to him.

But that is just a start. If he were able to get some creatures to the DR part of the never never, he could learn a massive amount of information about them, potentially. Or maybe some information on the nature of the never never itself. The spirit realm is a tricksy place and he would have an even bigger advantage with his intellectus there than he gets here. And itd be just plain fun :).

Im inclined to think that it is not partially in the never never, if for no other reason than it would be just one more way into the prison. Prisons with a lot of entrances and exits arent as secure.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Current DR wardens
« on: April 14, 2016, 02:50:00 AM »
Interesting thought I just had: If part of DR exists in the never never, would Harry's intellectus of the place carry over? Because that kind of knowledge about the never never, wherever it is, could be a really neat thing to experiment with.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Current DR wardens
« on: April 12, 2016, 12:51:23 AM »
While they could summon, the powerful entities potentially ignore the summons. The power of the island, and the darkness of the power, could be enough force and affinity allow for no summon to be unanswered. It is one thing for a creature to be summoned, it is another for them to be bound. So once brought to the island, the island and warden would be forced to fight. Admitted on the island, the warden has access to great power, but fighting well worth beings will allays be tricky.
 If summoned, would they only be brought to the surface or into the well? It does not seem secure to bring an unbound prisoner into the cell block.

Having the proper bait to get the beings to the island is probably that tricky part. As for binding the creature once its there. Demonreach apparently had the power to grab and bind a (more or less) full-powered Mab once she was physically standing on the island. DR has some chops. Of course the beings worth imprisoning on the island will have a lot of power too, and will definitely fight back. But Demonreach's power in such a conflict would be so much greater than Harry's that he would probably factor very little into the fight. IIRC correctly, Harry said something to the effect of wanting to be somewhere over the horizon if DR started swinging in earnest against an enemy.

Unless he had a Name to work with, or something. Or, maybe there is something in the islands architecture that we dont know about for such a fight, like weaponizing the stones from the cottage that repelled shagnasty. The real question is whether or not we will ever actually get to see such a fight. I really really hope so :).

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Current DR wardens
« on: April 11, 2016, 11:52:46 PM »
wonder if the Circle up top that Harry uses to summon Mab was involved. suppose that is part of it's use. summon the being and than entrap them.

That has been a theory i've thrown around before, and I am a big fan of it. One of the questions I had about the prison overall is who was badass enough to actually get all those creatures to Demonreach and trap them there, since the Island itself cannot go out and actively do it. That is where the Warden probably comes in as well. Merlin was badass but even he couldnt routinely whistle up dark gods and subdue them. But that circle, by far the most impressive empowered circle we have heard about in the DV, would go a long way to helping a Warden trap things.

I even pictured a theoretical future scene (for fun) where Harry summons Chauncy (sp) using the circle of beauty and threatening to lock him up forever if he doesnt give out the information Harry needs about his mom. Then Chauncy getting all lippy so Harry throws him in crystal with a very satisfying and spiteful ease and being like "neeeeeeext". Kinda like the scene in Firefly where Malcolm tries to give back the money he got for doing the train job when he refused to do the job and kicks the minion into Serenity's engine intake. The next guy is VERY willing to take Mal's offer after seeing that.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Current DR wardens
« on: April 11, 2016, 09:05:20 AM »
Which to me implies that there is only one capital "Warden" especially considering the line in Eb's journal.

As for the cloak WoJ, that's more ambiguous. 

To me, that WoJ implies that there are non-human guardians acting as wardens of Demonreach on the never never side. That is something I hadn't considered before and something that Harry should investigate, like, yesterday.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Sneaky line?
« on: February 13, 2016, 06:42:27 AM »
Furies being prominent in parts of Greek mythology, and Olympus being the home of the (Greek) gods, it could just be an historical pun.  Doesn't mean it's Alera, just means it shares at least some history with Earth.

Its the specific phrasing saying that he possesses a Fury that makes it stand out more to me.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Waste systems
« on: February 06, 2016, 07:40:41 AM »
Id think they had some kind of other solution to the the waste problem than miles and miles of pipes through stone. Not that that is not possible, but obviously plenty of NEW dwellings have been built, and if so they would have no way of connecting them now with the old sewer systems, since the means of shaping the spirestone seems to be lost in history.

My guess is they have something that quickly dilute/converts the waste into something else. IE: you go in a pot, press a button and a kind of chemical solutions rushes in and combines with the waste and alters it into something less toxic (sand was mentioned, it could be broken down into water, etc.) Then whatever the byproduct is of the chemical reaction is either pure liquid and runs out through some (above the stone) pipes into large tanks to be collected for use, or if its solid, just gets collected once a day or every few days and thrown in the trash or a place to be recycled for further use.

Or, since this is steampunk, the waste is combined with a chemical to liquefy it completely, then a heating crystal evaporates it and the steam is pushed through some turbines to generate power or some other gadgetry before exiting the habble through the ventilation tunnels.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: The Index
« on: December 22, 2015, 09:59:26 AM »
Something else to consider is that the power contained in the book must not be something obvious or something particularly useful to a common reader. Otherwise, Cavendish would never ask basic Marines to make copies of the book after she attained it.

My first thought was some kind of lineage thing. I kinda like the idea of it relating to the builders and/or their decedents somehow.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: The Spy
« on: December 22, 2015, 09:52:19 AM »
Dammit. I REALLY like this theory :(. Very very sad because Bayard is one of my favorite characters. Which is, of course, a perfect reason for him to be the traitor.

I agree with the earlier post about Abigail being mentioned more than was necessary being of interest, maybe she is the traitor.

The one thing I can think of to counter any of it is that both the Spirearch and Grimm mention that they think the traitor is in the Guard. Grimm even specifically says that as being one of the reasons Addison used the criminal guilds of Landing to be ready for a potential attack, and did not dispatch additional members of the Guard. Of course they could be wrong, and an aristocrat or high ranking member of the fleet would certainly be able to find ways of their own to gather such information. But for the moment they are proceeding from the assumption that the spy is in the Guard, specifically.

(oh hey, what about the Spirearch's batman?)

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Sneaky line?
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:40:33 PM »
TAW Hardback pg 338

"He must be a private captain."
"Olympian, I should think, from the colors and the fur trim of his coat," Master Ferus put in. "Olympian and, it would seem, possessed of fury. Which is funny, if you know enough history."

Key words being Olympian and Fury, of course. I havent finished the book yet so there might yet be some background info on Spire Olympia I dont know yet, but is this a (not so thinly) veiled reference to Codex Alera being the distant past in TAW? Olympia being Roman, of course, and referring to the Roman legions of Alera and their Furies.

Well, if I have to spell it out at this point you prolly dont get it, but I thought it was pretty clever :). So the question in my mind will be where do the Dresden Files fall in the grand timeline of things, if at all?

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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Fourth Holy Sword
« on: April 17, 2015, 02:40:40 AM »
Mac does raise an eyebrow at Harry's insistence on drinking heavily in Changes and I think thumbed the keys away from him iirc. I'm sure its plenty potent.

In changes he doesn't drink beer he asks for liquor. I don't think it specifies a type but fairly safe to assume it's whiskey.

However in White night he gets several beers and gets tipsy. And Mac takes his keys

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why
« on: February 13, 2015, 06:10:52 PM »
My personal WAG is that there was a breakthrough at the Outer Gates. Rashid came to Chicago to warn Harry about black magic and to repair little Chicago (possibly under Mab's orders to do so) and while he was there, the outer gates were breached and Nemesis gathered as many follower as it could to use it to press their advantage to attack Mab. Thats why Namsciel was there, and whoever else Nemesis could muster. The point of the attack was multiple-fold, but the primary one was to give the Red Court the chance to press its attack on the white council, since it forced Winter to remain on the defensive and Summer to counter the inaction with inaction of their own (silly Sidhe!). Another possible motive of the attack was to try to free Lea, quite possibly the most powerful being we know of that it managed to nfect.

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