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DF Spoilers / WAG: Most
« on: October 07, 2020, 02:00:53 AM »
WAG: That there is an island in Lake Michigan with a dark ley line- known.

That Merlin's magic supermax is an island.

But that the one is the other wasn't widely known.

If most beings only knew how to get there via Nevernever, it would explain how they could keep Kemmler from it.

Also, the Forest People are probably the reason the Red Court was confined to South America

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DF Spoilers / Re: Rudolph: Battlegrounds Heavy Spoilers
« on: October 06, 2020, 09:22:48 PM »
That was about Harry, not about Rudolph.

There are 4 Archangels, but only 3 Swords?

Longstanding WAG: Harry's the fourth Knight of the Cross, the Knight of Retribution.

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DF Spoilers / Re: HUGE BATTLE GROUND SPOILERS - (Un)Answered questions
« on: October 06, 2020, 08:25:32 PM »
It’s been awhile since I’ve logged in so I almost certainly have missed some things. Hopefully filling in those gaps won’t be so painful. So here’s my thoughts...

1) Did I miss something? Why is everyone so certain Mac is related to angels? He seemed more keyed into (Norse?) mythology in the short story with the Grendel...


He was Norse mythologied- doesn't mean he himself is from Norse mythology.

One of my long ago hairy theories was Mac as Loki; that would have been fun.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Justine plot hole [BG spoilers]
« on: October 06, 2020, 08:10:24 PM »
Without a bargain.

Harry tells Maeve to "cut the evil kinktress routine and we can get down to brass tacks"- and she does

Ramirez offers to assist Molly if she levels with him in Cold Case. She can suddenly speak to him straight regarding the issue at hand.

You have to offer the Ladies a bargain to get straight info. Or maybe just the Sidhe.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Names of the Mothers
« on: October 06, 2020, 07:57:27 PM »
Lillith

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab Theory [Peace Talks and Battle Ground spoilers]
« on: October 06, 2020, 07:32:42 PM »
I didn't think anyone assumed it was true that Harry is an ancestor Merlin. Just that there's enough there for it to be predicted. I go the extra step and say that Merlin was Odin's son. I don't claim it's true. I just think it would make Chichen Itza make even more sense. That curse was way overpowered if Eb was the ultimate target. That curse killed gods.

Had to punch through Edinborough's defenses.

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DF Spoilers / Re: [major BG spoilers] About the Council.
« on: October 06, 2020, 07:29:55 PM »
I think Harry giving it a name (Alfred) will be a big deal.  It might have made him more...  I don't know... real? Giving something a name seems to be really important in this series and Harry unknowingly is running around doing that all over the place.

My pet theory is that starborn are walking conjunctions, giving them a limited ability to alter reality.

So, power over Outsiders because they can accept them "inside" and then hurt them. Power over Names, which lets them alter nature.

And Harry's big mouth, yes.


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DF Spoilers / Re: Rudolph: Battlegrounds Heavy Spoilers
« on: October 06, 2020, 05:56:08 PM »
That's why Malvora and/or Skavis are good candidates. It can be compelled and would look the same.

Heck, he's a Murphy. Could have been a way of politely saying "no" to something that only eats living things.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab Theory [Peace Talks and Battle Ground spoilers]
« on: October 06, 2020, 05:54:01 PM »
Very important to be aware of the distinction between community assumption and actual author confirmed facts

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DF Spoilers / Re: So is anyone going to address... [BG Spoilers]
« on: October 06, 2020, 05:22:00 PM »
Either Eb knows how, or doesn't know how the Winter Knight mantle works.

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DF Spoilers / Re: [major BG spoilers] About the Council.
« on: October 06, 2020, 05:13:09 PM »
Someone in another thread suggested that the WC might have done it as a way to try and leverage Harry surrendering the Eye of Balor as payment for getting back in. I could totally see that, but that's about the only thing that sort of makes sense to me.

That was me.

Could also be about the Spear of Destiny, on reflection. And Harry didn't hide that he brought the Placard to Mac's.

The loa could have reported on all these things.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Brighter Future Society Assets, Resources, and Services
« on: October 06, 2020, 05:09:39 PM »
They need to establish a Fraternity/Sorority House for new werewolves at the university, Lambda Alpha Lambda (for wolves in sheep’s clothing). Georgia’s parents are loaded, and the Alphas have been traditionally guardians of those who award Sheepskins.

With the Paranet a lot of minor practitioners are going to choose Chicago for college, so you are going to get recruits across the US.

The Alphas were all minor practitioners whose talents bent this way, they probably all recognised each other on a subconscious level (pack mentality). They have independently of Tera learnt to speedheal themselves from some injuries, so they can probably teach having learnt from the real thing.

Please provide cite "were all minor practitioners whose talents bent this way." They learned the transformation. It's not clear any of them were minor talents before that I am aware of.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab Theory [Peace Talks and Battle Ground spoilers]
« on: October 06, 2020, 05:07:26 PM »
It's been established Ebenezer and Harry are links in a chain of apprentices. Not aware of anything that says it's a bloodline. Please post if available. Apprentices <=> bloodline.

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Fair enough, the point of this was for me to find out what the objections were anyhow.

An adult never has their decision making compromised, at least not from the things you listed. She was an adult, it doesn't matter it he was her mentor. Would it be wrong for Eb to ask Harry for help? Of course not. It also doesn't matter that she was in love with him. Is it wrong to ask a spouse for help? I mean come on.  And I reject entirely that black magic is real or works the way the WC thinks it does. The entire justification given by the WC is logically incoherent with regards to the laws of magic.

Notice your use of "I." Your conceptual gap is your fanon. You don't trust the White Council, or its understanding of how black magic works, despite Harry agreeing with them on how it works and "taints" the magic of a wizard or sorcerer.

Harry chose to make a Faustian bargain for selfish reasons- paternal love for a child. While sympathetic, it was in some respects the moral equivalent of having a child needing an organ donor and murdering people until a matching donor was found- that's what the "whatever" in "whatever it takes" means. Harry is going to kill whatever he needs to kill, and allow whatever friends and allies need to die to die, to save Maggie. He might feel bad about it later, but he's quite clear that feeling bad later isn't going to stop him now. That's . .not a good choice, from a strictly moral perspective.

It worked out for him. Intentions do in fact matter, not just actions. If my wife is having a heart attack and I run a red light because she's dying on the way to the hospital, but then run over a pedestrian, it is neither legally nor morally the same as slamming on my gas when I see a pedestrian walking to run them over laughing. One is Murder 1: Deliberate and malicious homicide, one is negligent homicide or reckless endangerment- I knowingly took actions I knew *might* result in the death of someone but neither intended them to result nor planned for them to result. It's why such distinctions exist. In fact, that's the essence of the self-defense defense Harry has vs Justin- Harry did not want to kill Justin, he wanted to not-be-dead from Justin, which required killing same. No malice or enjoyment, the intention was self-preservation.

Harry annihilated the Red Court- and the heroic Fellowship of St. Giles. Good with the bad. He didn't do it for the war, or even to save his own life- in that respect, *not* selfish. He did it for his personal child- not all the children the Red Court regularly killed. It was personal.

"Buts" are justifications, not validations.

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This would be highly out of character for the U.S. government. The U.S. Government has done its fair share of unseemly acts, but completely making up an enemy and attacking them as a cover up is something it has never done. If there is some event like this that I am not aware of it either happened a very long time ago or was not done on this kind of scale.

And there is a reason it has not been done on this kind of scale, if ever. Governments cannot cover up things on this kind of scale, and blaming a foreign power or terrorist group would be so easily falsified that it would be completely pointless to try. Not only would be incredibly easy to falsify, but there would be too many layers of government involved for this to even be practical. Something like a CIA coup in the 1950's or 1960's was possible without anyone knowing because the entire operation was clandestine and could be authorized and carried out without having to involve anyone outside of the executive branch. This wont work with the battle of Chicago because it is a massive event and everyone will be involved. Congress, state governments, local governments etc.

This was explicitly proposed by the CIA as a means of legitimizing an invasion of Cuba during the Missile Crisis- hitting Florida with an American nuke and blaming the Russians/Cubans.

Kennedy, to his credit regardless of what other opinions people may hold, flipped his lid over it and essentially told the CIA to stuff it for the remainder of his presidency.

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