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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 08, 2013, 10:01:14 PM »
OH! cant believe I forgot this one

Having a main character that is in some form of law enforcement.  Its been done, some of the titans of UF did a good job with it, that doesnt mean I want to keep reading about it all the dang time.

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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 08, 2013, 09:55:15 PM »
It's our world.

You mentioned horror; another example is the "Modern Gothic", aka "Had I But Known" or "Girl Gets House" genre, of which I've been reading a lot lately, specifically the ones Elizabeth Peters wrote as Barbara Michaels in the late Sixties through the Nineties. (This genre seems to have pretty much disappeared, BTW.) Often an otherwise mundane setting will have a ghost or other paranormal feature, and the characters tend to take a very sceptical, rational viewpoint, as opposed to accepting magic as a possibility right off the bat.

Ya I really like those stories, I think a big thing is that using just one supernatural element and having it be a rare occurance in the setting lets the world work the way it is.  I believe nuero mentioned a pet peeve about when magic is present but the world still works the same as it does in the real world despite hte pressence of magic or monsters and all that.  I agree and find that super annoying.

However, if there is say 1 or 2 monsters, well that might not change the world anymore than your average pyscho/serial killer does.  I mean one vampire could probably get by unoticed, now hiding an entire vampire civizaltion is bit different.

One thing I would like to see more is a mix of Horror with Urban fantasy.  I think the two lend nicely to each other.

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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 08, 2013, 08:31:25 PM »
I'm presently doing the research for a story that I just realized pretty much fits all the criteria in my above post, though it may more accurately be called "magical realism" rather than UF. It features a single paranormal element in an otherwise conventional thriller, and the protagonist spends much of the story convinced that what he's experiencing is either a side effect of the medication he's on, or his subconscious trying to tell him something.

Is it a made up world or does the story take place in our world.

Also, I see this often with horror

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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 08, 2013, 05:12:15 PM »
well I would certainly be intreseted in reading a book like that, and if I was to come across one in my weekly trip to the book store it would come home with me simply because its new and fresh.



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Author Craft / Re: creating monsters/beings
« on: May 08, 2013, 03:57:20 PM »
I enjoy made up creatures, you can make them work in your world as long as you know what they are and are not capable of doing, and have the rules for them worked out.

I think there is a fine line between too much and too little detail and you have to find what works for you and what you can make work.

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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 08, 2013, 03:50:14 PM »
One thing I could do without is a main character that is broke/down on their luck, working dead end job, not sucessful.  That sorta thing.

Seen it, its been done, can we move on.... its almost as annoying as stories about "the chose one" 

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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 06, 2013, 03:43:37 PM »
I suppose this isnt so much a plot theme, but I would enjoy a few more books done in third person in UF.

I don't mind first person at all, but UF is kinda overrun with first person stories and something different is always nice.

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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 03, 2013, 09:27:48 PM »
I never use to mind seeing the same myths re done in UF, but for me at least, I want new things right now.  Now a story that has mostly established mythical critters but a few new ones is fine, and sometimes if the author puts their own spin on someting and makes it unique enough thats fine with me.

I just get tired of seeing the same things in each book i read.  Its the same thing for fanatasy, in the years I've been reading fantasy I have had my fill of elves dwarves orcs and trolls.

Its not that its bad or that I wont read something with them, but if I am at the book store and in one hand I have a book of reused critters and a book of brand new ones in the other, I will tend to buy the book with new stuff just to see how something a bit different.


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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 03, 2013, 09:10:49 PM »
Ya, werewolves are quite guilty of it also these days. 

One thing I like, and would like to see more of, is authors making up new monsters and critters for their own universe instead of borrowing old mythos for everyhting.

I dont mind old myths, but its just a plus when I read a book were things are made up or at least when the author populates a story with things he/she created for them self.

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Author Craft / Re: Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
« on: May 03, 2013, 09:06:17 PM »
I'm quite tired of vampires that are nice.

I like the vampires of Lost Boys, 30 Days of Night, David Welligntons stories.  Vampires like that are great.

Zombies are getting tiring, I like the genre but most of the new stuff isnt adding anything to it.  I will check out the series Shecky mentioned though because of who the author is =)

Mostly I just have had enough of nice monsters, I want mean nasty monsterous monsters. 

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Author Craft / Re: Silent Oath - Sequel to my first novel
« on: March 14, 2013, 02:33:58 PM »
Glad to hear it, the first one was a goody cant wait for the next

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The thing is, though, if what you are writing is Epic Fantasy, of the All that is Good And Worthwhile is Under Threat by Terrible Evil variety, and you're depicting people who are supposed to be in great and terrible danger,  it's not so easy to make it convincing if nothing bad ever happens to anyone important to the reader.  Star Wars is a pretty light and family-friendly example, and even in Star Wars Obi-Wan dies and Luke loses a hand and gets pretty dark.

Personally, I appreciate it when a writer who is doing "these people are under serious threat" has the nerve to have a random chance of war take out a character who is of some significance and who had ongoing story stuff yet to resolve; it really ups the tension level about how everything else is going to work out.

I agree with this, its hard for me as a reader to feel a sense of danger or really appreciate a threat, if nothing bad ever happens. 

Now I dont mean someone gets beat up, heals, life goes on, I mean bad like dead/maimed.

I have no issues seeing characters die, I think its exciting knowing and author might off one of my favorite characters at any given momnet, I do think you can over due it of course (GRRM) but everyone likes different things I guess

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Author Craft / Re: When to start an author website?
« on: March 05, 2013, 06:10:20 PM »
As far as trending goes, speaking from the standpoint of someone that buys an absurd amount of books, I've never much cared about whats popular as far as picking what to take home from the book store.  After all I have to like it, and it doesnt matter much to me what others like.

I do agree at lot with what Wordmaker said about say vampires -or any other over used product- because I tend to get annoyed by reading the same ole thing again and again.

A good example, the zombie genre, after World War Z and the Walking Dead took off, the selves where flooded with zombie books, but very few offered anything new, and the authors doing their take on World War Z, well I had already read that, and didnt need to read a knock of version.

I will say some authors manage to take concepts that are way overused and put their own spin on it and make it fresh.  A good example would be David Wellignton, I think his vampire novels are nice and different, yes he uses vampires but they are the more 30 Days of Night style vamp, and no one sparkels, so im ok with it.

Also his Monster Island books have a different feel to them than other zombie type books.

Just my two cents, make your stuff have its own feel to it, make it good, and don't worry about whats popular or when it will be published.  People are still buying the WOT, LotR, and Dune books after how many years?

Trends come and go, good books are always good books

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Author Craft / Re: Locked Within - My First Novel
« on: February 14, 2013, 12:51:29 AM »
Looking forward to the next one!

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I always thought the first classic blunder was getting involved in a land war in Asia =P

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