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DF Reference Collection / Re: Mouse's Origins
« on: June 15, 2012, 03:56:31 AM »
It may be outside the bounds you want to set, but I noticed that the Wiki entry on Foo Dogs mentions multiple times that Foo Dogs always come in pairs, one male and one female.  Combine that with this WoJ...
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About Mouse's siblings
he does have a bunch of brothers and sisters who wonder how come they haven’t heard from him. ‘You never howl, you never pee on anything….’  And plus, there is…uh, I will just say that the possibility exists that Harry didn’t rescue all of them, and if so, where are the others?
I'm actually kind of surprised that this one hasn't sparked rampant speculation yet honestly.  Especially since Jim wants to bring in some Asian lore eventually.


Oh, and one more excerpt and WoJ for your Lea/Mouse conversation:
Mouse has just threatened Lea in order to get her to change everyone back from hounds, including causing a mini-earthquake and St. Elmo's fire to start falling from his mouth.
Changes p.350
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The Leanansidhe shook her head slowly.  Then she said, "How did Dresden ever win you?"
"He didn't,"  Mouse said.  "I won him."
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#136 “I am interested in knowing if we will ever get back to Mouse’s comment about “winning” Harry. I’m totally mystified. ”
It might help to know that while Mouse and Lea are both using the same word, winning, they are talking about entirely different meanings of it. As a result, Lea was mystified, too.
The "winning" may have something to do with Mouse having some special source of power.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: The importance of Names.
« on: June 12, 2012, 12:41:06 AM »
Quote from: Thessaly on June 12, 2012, 12:12:24 AM
Major life-altering changes coincides, betimes, a change in one's name. (Probably the only time, really.) The old name has no more relevance to who they are now than hair as a material binding to someone that shaved their head. There's no magical connection. It's theirs, but it no longer applies to them as how they are now. Besides, in choosing his own Name one assumes there to be greater abundance of meaning involved in the act that applies to their person.
I wouldn't be so sure.  Have you seen this WoJ?

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I read the short story from Marcone's point of view, Even Hand, and I noticed that John Marcone is not his real name. Is that going to be significant?
Sure is if somebody tries to cast a spell at him using the name John Marcone! That would be a big deal. We'll have to see how that works out. Actually the character that's really interesting is the Mirror Mirror universe Marcone, and we'll get to him in a few books.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: A Badelynge of Quackiness
« on: June 11, 2012, 09:53:55 PM »
Quote from: Ms Duck on June 11, 2012, 01:26:24 AM
any chance of this getting stickied when it's done? I had made one like this a few years back, but its toast and so is msot of the stuff on it.
Yeah, I'm not sure what kinds of criteria are involved in determining if a thread is sticky quality, but it would be nice to have a place for the new kids to catch up with the rest of the class.  I think a lot of people would be a little lost around here without knowing at least the outlines of these theories.  Perhaps having a thread that lists all of the long, thoroughly researched, well-formatted theories as a reference.  I'm a fan of the curator plan that was proposed a few weeks ago.

Nice work Lady Duck!

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DF Reference Collection / Re: The importance of Names.
« on: June 11, 2012, 12:00:05 AM »
Quote from: chocclare on June 10, 2012, 09:11:15 AM
Talking of which (and apologies for being slightly off-topic) can any of you Americans tell this poor Brit WHY Harry was appalled that the Carpenters named their son Harry?  There is a sports commentator named Harry Carpenter in the UK but I don't know of any other reference and it's obviously a joke in the book which I Just Don't Get...  ::)
I assumed that Harry Carpenter sounds too much like hairy carpenter.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: The importance of Names.
« on: June 06, 2012, 01:53:06 PM »
Quote from: Serack on June 06, 2012, 11:36:15 AM
Yah, that's right although I am having trouble finding it too.  Jim didn't even realize it conciously at the time.  I think it was years later when Shanon was watching reruns that he realized it.

The forum search engine is giving me a response full of nothing (what I call it when I get 25 hits without the actual search term in them).  I thought it might be in the atlanta signing, but it isn't in the transcripts.

Maybe it was in one of the 2 audio interviews he did late last year.  It was a rather recent WoJ
I don't know about the audio interviews, but the WoJ is typed out explicitly here
http://www.orbitbooks.net/2011/04/26/something-borrowed/

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DF Reference Collection / Re: The importance of Names.
« on: June 05, 2012, 04:08:36 AM »
Arctis Tor:  Tor-- "high, rocky hill," O.E. torr "tower, rock." Obviously cognate with Gael. torr "lofty hill, mound," O.Welsh twrr "heap, pile;" and probably ultimately from L. turris "high structure" see tower). But sources disagree on whether the Celts borrowed it from the Anglo-Saxons or the other way round (shamelessly copied from here:  http://etymonline.com/?term=tor).  and Arctis relates to arctic/cold/winter

I'm not sure exactly how to best arrange this; feel free to adjust it to fit the format better.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: PG: combining Neurovore and Knnn.
« on: May 06, 2012, 02:11:23 AM »
Quote from: Ms Duck on May 06, 2012, 12:52:41 AM
Does anyone have a searchable copy of the df? I dont have my books, but there is a quote in sk where lea talks about how much she cared for maggie, and one in gp where she talks about how long they were together. Also the comment in pg where maeve talks about love majing the sidhe insane.
Here's the relevant portion of PG.  I don't have digital copies of the others.

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"It may well be.  Dark things stir in Winter's heart.  Things even I have never before seen.  Dangerous things.  I believe they are a portent." 
I tilted my head a little, focused on her.  "How so?"
"What Aurora attempted was insane.  Even among the Sidhe,"  Maeve replied.  "Her actions could have thrown enormous forces out of balance, to the ruin of all."
"Her heart was in the right place,"  Fix said, his tone mildly defensive.
"Maybe," I told him, as gently as I could.  "but good intent doesn't amount ot much when the consequences are epically screwed up."
Maeve shook her head.  "Hearts.  Good.  Evil.  Mortals are always concerned with such nonsense."  She abruptly rose, her mind clearly elsewhere.
Something in her expression or manner gave me a sudden sense that she was worried.  Deeply, truly worried.  Little Miss Overlord was frieghtened.
"These mortal notions," Maeve said.  "Good, evil, love.  All those other things your kind natter on about.  Are they perhaps contagious?"
I rose with her, politely.  "Some would say so," I told her.
She grimaced.  "In the time since her death, I have often thought to myself that Aurora was stricken with some mortal madness.  I believe the Queen of Air and Darkness has been taken by a similar contagion."  She suddenly shuddered and said, voice curt, "I have answered you with truth, and more than needed be said.  Does that satisfy the accounting, mortal?"
"Aye," I told her, nodding.  "Good enough for me."

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Who recruited and trained Victor Sells?
« on: April 23, 2012, 02:15:23 AM »
Quote from: wyltok on April 23, 2012, 01:26:59 AM
I can't help but wonder why Papa Raith would teach the slimmed down version of the Red Court curse to Sells, which requires the storms to empower it, when he could just teach him the He Who Walks Behind entropy curse that requires much less power instead, and can be performed any day of the week. It can't be that he didn't know it, since we're fairly certain he killed Maggie Dresden with it. Then again, that could just be First Installment Weirdness (to use a tvtropes term).

Other than that, I like this theory, and wouldn't be surprised if you're completely right.
What about instead of Papa Raith, some other WC vamp took Sells under his wing.  We already have a strong connection between Madrigal/Madeline (am I the only one that gets them confused?) and the BC.  The same stuff points to either of them as well.  We already know that Madeline worked with another one trick pony in Binder...

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Questions
« on: April 01, 2012, 06:01:47 AM »
Quote from: DragonEyes on April 01, 2012, 05:30:27 AM
Except those are the Greek classical elements. I don't know what the classical elements are in Mayan belief, if they even had any.
True, I'm just shooting in the dark.  I was going for an analogy with the elements from Harry's pendant.  The spirit element was provided by the human sacrifices.  Do you think Harry goes off a Greek based magic system then?

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Questions
« on: April 01, 2012, 05:20:32 AM »
Quote from: DARTHYAM on March 31, 2012, 07:14:36 AM
Okay fair enough; but why a vase and a brick? Given that the mayans had jaguar shaped altars I think they procured that through possessing them, and i suppose the brick and vase could have been used to release the energy
Perhaps it's a link to the four elements instead of something Mayan specific?  Brick represents earth, vase is water, and dagger/sword go to fire/air in some combination.  I want to say that Harry has done something similar when he was setting up ritual magic before.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: March 21, 2012, 07:21:43 PM »
Quote from: TheCuriousFan on February 12, 2012, 05:47:07 AM
He's a Scion, not a changeling.

And we know that Kincaid is centuries older than Ebenezar.
I thought a changeling was a specific type of scion.  Is my interpretation of a scion incorrect?

Supernatural creature + mortal = scion
Faerie + mortal = changeling

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Black Council "Recruitment" [GS Spoilers]
« on: January 24, 2012, 06:14:26 PM »
Instead of a bunch of independent isolated cells of Black Council, it seems like the BC is more like a small group that contracts out its more visible actions.  I believe we have actually seen very few BC members who are fully in the know, namely Cowl, Kumori, and maybe Peabody (I can't decide if Mavra is actually BC or not). 

Shagnasty was clearly working for someone, but he doesn't need to be a part of the conspiracy.  All he would care about was getting to go out and torture somebody.
Same goes for the Erlking if the theory that he was the source of the wolf belts in Fool Moon holds water.  Erlking gets to help hunters go after prey; after that, he doesn't really care.

Need a war between the Red Court and White Council?  Just whisper into Bianca's ear and mix it with poor and erratic leadership and her very public murder.  Bianca didn't really need to be a part of the conspiracy (in fact, few if any of the RC did); she just needed to overlook the longterm consequences of her actions and focus on getting revenge. 

Individuals in the White Court covet political power.  All the BC needs to do to get them on board is offer up some juicy way to backstab their neighbor.  The BC doesn't need to include White Court vampires into all of their secrets.

It seems like overall, the BC is set up like an octopus.  It has a central core that sets goals, and many arms that don't really know about each other but will push people around according to what the BC leadership want them to do.

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