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DF Spoilers / Re: White Council Top Members
« on: October 02, 2021, 09:33:27 PM »
What about the Bottom Members? Those who just barely qualify? Luccio is amongst those at the moment.
Nah, Luccio got dropped down a few pegs, but I don't think she's near the bottom.  They don't conjure fiery lasers at a moment's notice.  Closer to average wizard, I'd say.  Unfortunately, average wizard can't keep up in most of the fights that Harry gets in nowadays.  Before DB, she was in the running for Senior Council level wizard.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Margarets
« on: September 29, 2021, 11:21:38 PM »
I think part of the reason why there are so many M names in this series is how Jim (at least used to) come up with names when he was stumped.  Just flip open the yellow pages and point a finger.  You tend to open up in the middle of the book, and M's are right there in the middle.  Between that and so many mythology names that are less flexible, we get lots of M names.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Council Top Members
« on: September 29, 2021, 05:40:01 PM »
Just out of curiosity, exactly how do wizards fight fair?  Given the rules, assuming you aren't the Black Staff, you can't kill with magic, you can't enthrall with magic.  So  what do you do? If it's down to fisticuffs Harry tags everybody shorter and lighter than he is. If it comes down to ordinance, watch Carlos, he carries grenades. Harry put down Corpse Taker with a 44 to the back of the head.  Kincaid killed Harry with a sniper rifle.  And the Red Court used sarin gas to kill thousands including wizards.

In the face off with the Black Court nobody won.  Everybody called it a day and blew the vicinity. Winning involves getting whatever prize you were playing for. It looks like nobody got everything they wanted.

Was Drakul trying to stage a Dark Hallow?
A fair fight wouldn't necessarily be to the death, but this is all theoretical anyway.

The explanation in BG was that Drakul was kind of out on a whim to gather information.  He could either build up an army of zombies, or the Accords forces could come to stop him, and he'd get an idea of their capabilities and possibly some new blampire recruits (which he managed to do).  He didn't much care himself whether or not Ethniu and the Fomor actually succeeded in Chicago.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Teleportation
« on: September 29, 2021, 01:01:53 AM »
I think The Archive knows more than Eb, she knows everything written. So she knows the Council archives too.  Plus Eb is not a fine hand. But maybe it requires a great deal of power, power she did not have access to in the Shedd within a circle, whereas power was in the air at the battle. Then again, she takes the train to Chicago....
The Archive has plenty of control and power.  Besides, Marcone pulling it off makes it seem like it doesn't take a ton of power, just a ton of control that Namshiel can handle on his end.  Marcone uses a series of weak shields against Ethniu instead of fewer strong shields like Harry might try.

At the moment, I'm thinking that true teleportation is very distance limited.  You extend personal power to your desired location, then you can pop over using whatever complex and easy to screw up spellwork required.  That way, the hellfire circle would prevent escape since the Archive couldn't extend power through it (i.e. can't get outside the circle).  It was good enough that escaping to the NN wasn't an option for the Archive either.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Council Top Members
« on: September 28, 2021, 08:12:16 PM »
No, it isn't.  The discussion was how Harry specifically, plus LtW, River Shoulders, and the wardens did vs Drakul and the Black Court Vampires.  The result was a loss.  "surviving is a win" was LtW referring to how he and River Shoulders did vs Drakul.  The vampires suffered no casualties while team Dresden lost people (who are now probably vampires). 

Also as I stated previously, Harry lost.  He was dead to rights and got rescued.  Being rescued by someone isn't a victory for you.  If I was being held hostage and police saved me, it wouldn't be my victory. 

So Harry and the Wardens got beat by the BCV's.
The wardens did manage to take down a couple blampires from the large group of them before Harry pays attention to them again.  At least, they don't get mentioned again.  Your main point stands, though.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Council Top Members
« on: September 28, 2021, 05:43:21 PM »
  But in the end it isn't about one on one..  It is about leadership,  it is about those who will follow that lead.   That's what really scares the Senior Council, yeah, anyone one of them one on one is stronger than Harry and most likely could take him, but it isn't about that.  When the flying squid thingies were raising havoc when the battle begun, there were Senior Council members present, for all their personal power and knowledge they couldn't do squat in an effective manner to stop them.  Enter Harry, a word to his loyal Za'Gard, and they took them.. Same against Mavra and Drakul, yeah, one on one, they were screwed, three Wardens, killed or dispatched to another dimension.. But while it was bad, they didn't win, not because one of the wizards or the sash-quash was badder than the rest, but because of Harry's loyal little army, following orders to go and get the garlic..
By that logic, Harry is more powerful than Mab, Titania, the Erlking, and Odin combined because he was the only one that could take down Ethniu after they tried.  He'd be the most powerful wizard in the world by leaps and bounds.  That's not what this thread is about.  It's about where Harry ranks among wizards in a fair fight.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Council Top Members
« on: September 27, 2021, 03:47:40 PM »
Yet, those times you mention, compared to Cowl, Harry is very young and inexperienced without
the aid of a mantle of any kind, further though the shadow of Lasciel was in his head for part of the time, she didn't enhance his power or magic.  Still he held his own, I disagree that Cowl was simply toying with him in their first meeting, Harry has grown since they last met in knowlege, mantel, and experience.
Cowl was definitely going easy on Harry in their first meeting.

Quote from: Dead Beat Ch.8
"Just as well," Cowl murmured. "I have wanted to see for myself what has the Wardens so nervous about you."
The cold wind rose again, and the hairs on the back of my neck rose up stiffly. A flash of sensation flickered over me as Cowl drew in power. A lot of power.

...

I've traded practice blows with my old master Justin DuMorne, himself at one time a Warden. I fought him in earnest, too, and won. I've tested my strength in practice duels against the mentor who succeeded him, Ebenezar McCoy. My faerie godmother, the Leanansidhe, has a seriously nasty right hook, metaphysically speaking, and I've even gone up against the least of the Queens of Faerie. Throw in a couple of demons, various magical constructs, a thirteen-story fall in a runaway elevator, half a dozen spellslingers of one amount of nasty or another, and I've seen more sheer mystic violence than most wizards in the business. I've beaten them all, or at least survived them, and I've got the scars to show for it.

Cowl hit me harder than any of them.

...

Cowl walked slowly toward me down the sidewalk, all cloak and hood and shadows. "Disappointing," he said. "I hoped you were ready for the heavyweight division."

...

Cowl kept walking toward me. Hell's bells, it didn't even look like he was trying all that hard.

I got a cold feeling in my chest.
Harry has grown since DB, but not enough to make a match of Cowl yet.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Council Top Members
« on: September 27, 2021, 03:05:34 PM »
Really?  That hasn't happened in spite of the so called advantage Cowl supposedly has, as in age and experience.
There have only been like three chances total?  One in DB when they met and Cowl was playing with Harry (I don't count the end there because Harry sucker punched him when he was managing the Darkhallow).  One in WN when Cowl zapped him through Little Chicago and busted it.  Then again in the Raith Deeps when he let in the uber-ghouls and the pteradactyl before leaving altogether and not really fighting Harry. 

Cowl has shown Senior Council level of power and control (possibly because he's Simon, a former Senior Council member).  I think he takes down Harry in a fair fight, but with the winter knight's mantle it could be closer.  Kinda like the Harry/Eb fight.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Wedding day ideas
« on: September 27, 2021, 03:52:27 AM »
Ferro was willing to show up to Bianca's ball.  I think Harry's wedding is a bigger deal than that, tbh.  It may be an either/or thing between him and Vadderung, though.

As far as people to expect to show up, I'm expecting most supernatural nations to get an invite to send representatives.  It is good to shore up Accords relations if nothing else.
Something like the following seems reasonable to me:
  • Summer - Sarissa and Fix, possibly Eldest Gruff
  • Winter - Mab, Molly, and retainers
  • White Court - all the living named characters here except maybe Thomas
  • White Council - token pair of senior councilors (say Listens to Wind and Ancient Mai with TC's nameless wardens.  Nobody that's gonna be too friendly to Harry)
  • Archive
  • Marcone/Gard and possibly the new Hendricks (Childs perhaps?)
  • Svartalves - Etri and his sister
  • Vadderung or Ferro, but probably not both
Probably a good portion of that is wrong, but I could see any of those choices actually showing up.



For Twelve Months, it's going to be a different kind of book.  Instead of Harry's worst weekend, it's going to be stretched over the course of an entire year.  That means that Harry gets time to rest between episodes of interest.  I think that might make it hard to keep up a usual murder mystery plot.  The usual time pressure is going to be off, anyway.  Stepping back and having a less combat focused book would be good after BG, too.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Name the next book! (Unofficial Fan Contest begins!)
« on: September 26, 2021, 05:39:33 PM »

Till Death Do Us Part?
It has to follow the naming convention.  Two words that have multiple meanings with the same number of letters in each word.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mirror Mirror character changes ideas
« on: September 26, 2021, 05:24:01 PM »
Do we know for sure Harry will be going to the mirrorverse alone? Logically it seems likely, but if he's with someone else (like standing at the altar for his wedding) and some magical thing kicks in, and someone close to him (like Lara or his best man or the minister) grabs for him, could they be pulled in as well?
We know he's going to be summoned by negaHarry to be killed in his place.  I think that's got to be a solo trip tbh.  None of the other summonings we've seen have included multiple beings.  Besides, I think that you'd need a True Name for a mortal to summon another mortal across realities, much less have the magical oomph to pull in someone else for the ride.

primeChandler will be the touchstone for Harry to get real information about the mirror reality and what's different.  Also, probably one to give him inside information on who's gunning for him suddenly in the WC to call to vote him out.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Wedding day ideas
« on: September 26, 2021, 05:38:07 AM »
I'm also wondering if this will be an event where gifts are exchanged (like Bianca's ball).
Not much of a wedding without wedding gifts  ;D

Although, probably not ones like Bianca gave.


My opinion is Mab will want this to appear much like fantasy type wedding (think Cinderella).  It's a kind of royal wedding with Harry (Knight) representing Winter, and Lara being a type of princess.  So I think it will be more old fashioned. 

I think Thomas might be out by then.  He will be the one to give away Lara as Lord Raith I think will be too damaged to do it.
Yeah, it's an old school noble wedding.  Either don't forget to invite Maleficent or else burn all the spinning wheels.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who will be Harry's best man?
« on: September 26, 2021, 05:14:51 AM »
Hmm, probably Butters unless Thomas is available for best man.

As far as guests, I'd imagine it'd be a who's who along the lines of Bianca's masquerade.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Way to Demonreach
« on: September 25, 2021, 08:54:58 PM »
I believe it is now though, I seem to remember Harry ordering it before he returned to Chicago for the battle.
But the idea that he ordered it into full defensive mode before the battle supports the idea that it isn't in that mode 24/7.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Way to Demonreach
« on: September 25, 2021, 07:39:44 PM »
Harry wasn't fully in charge as of Cold Days, it wasn't until he spent a full year on the island, up until Skin Game did he learn the ins and outs of the defensive system and how to turn it on.  Going to full defensive mode is apparently something Alfred cannot do completely on his own.
Agreed, but I don't think the Island is continuously in full defensive mode, even now that Harry knows how to trigger it.

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