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DFRPG / Re: A problem with the rules, and a simple fix
« on: August 19, 2011, 11:16:28 AM »I am not sure I see your problem.
Hiding sets up an opposed contest between the person who is hiding's Stealth and the person who is looking's Alertness or Investigation. If it is easy to hide say because there is a lot of cover and shadows and what not the person who is hiding gets a bonus to his Stealth roll, and the person who is looking has to roll his Alertness or Investigation and beat that the number rolled plus the environmental difficulty modifier in order to find them.
If the situation is reversed and the environment is very hard to hide in due to it being brightly lit with no cover then the person who is looking gets the environmental difficulty modifier bonus to his roll on Alertness or Investigation and the person who is hiding still sets the difficulty to be found using his Stealth skill.
Since a Stealth roll is always an opposed roll against an opponent's Alertness or Investigation roll you give the environmental difficulty to whomever would get the benefit of the environmental difficulty modifier on their roll and therefore make it more difficult for his opponent.
So hiding in a dark environment with lots of cover has an environmental bonus of +3 to hide. Hider rolls his Stealth skill +4DF +3 points environmental bonus vs the Looker who rolls his Alertness or Investigation skill +4DF and see who is the winner.
Spotting someone in a brightly lit environment without any cover has an environmental bonus of +3 to spot. Hider rolls his Stealth skill +4DF vs the Looker who rolls his Alertness or Investigation skill +4DF +3 points environmental bonus and see who is the winner.
In both situations the environmental difficulty modifier makes it more difficult for whoever would have difficulty on their roll due to the environmental difficulty modifier.
The problem is they've been misreading "the roll" to mean only what you rolled on the 4df rather than roll+modifiers(stealth+environment+etc...). I was going to comment on it a while back but I didn't feel like getting pedantic'd to death.