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DF Spoilers / Ask Jim Questions - Today!
« on: June 01, 2018, 07:07:07 AM »
What follows is copied directly from Jim Butcher's long dormant twitter feed:

My name is Jim Butcher and I write stories.  Ask me anything, Friday at 12:30pm Mountain Time on Reddit!
12:39 PM - 31 May 2018


Just a guess on my part, but Jim must be very, very close to wrapping up Peace Talks; or maybe he's finished and will announce it officially today, seeing as Jim must know he will be asked "how much longer?"

What I really want to suggest is that if your able to do so, now would be a good time to ask Jim some deep questions that he might answer.  Something less obvious and direct as "who fixed Little Chicago?" or overasked like "Why did you choose Chicago to set the story in?"  I have to work Friday afternoon so I'm counting on you guys to ask some interesting questions only members of this forum could come up with.  Sorry I wasn't able to post this earlier, but I just got in on a late flight from Los Angeles and am about to hit the sack.     

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DF Spoilers / Are there more wizards like Elaine?
« on: May 30, 2018, 06:26:22 PM »
I'll start by answering my own question so as to better define it.  We learned from Lea in Ghost Story that Mort Lindquist hid his true ability from the Council.  Lea said that Mortimer's power level was likely greater than Harry's, though limited to his own field of expertise.  Elaine deliberately hide her abilities from Warden Ramirez.  Harry knows Cowl is White Council material, he even speculates that Cowl and Kumori hide their identities because they are Council members, but Harry could be wrong.  At least one or maybe both Necromancers hide their identities of the more obvious reason that they simply don't want to be recognized at any place or time.  Even Necromancers have to go to the supermarket after all.  They can't really send a ghost and sending a zombie would require too much effort and defeat the purpose of being incognito.

I wonder if there are a significant number of wizards who are hiding their true abilities.  Some of them might be like Cowl and Kumori who chose a dark path and need to hide from the Council, while others might have met a warden when they were younger; say someone like Morgan explaining what happens to a person who breaks the laws of magic, and decided, "These White Council guys are as**oles, I don't want to be any part of their organization."

I find it hard to believe Elaine is alone in her feelings about the White Council.  I wouldn't be surprised if not everyone Harry dismisses as the "have nots of magic", the people who hang out at Mac's, are really below White Council standards.       

 

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Jim has said that Peace Talks will feature a great deal supernatural violence.  My question isn't about who you want to see die; though you may want that too, it's about who would you like to see go out in a knock down drag out bloody fight to the finish? 

If it's a wizard, perhaps we will see them throw a death curse that unleashes mayhem on their antagonist or antagonists.  I'd like to see a death curse that doesn't have any subtlety to it; unlike Quintus Cassius' curse against Harry or the one Margaret LeFay laid on Lord Raith, something really spectacular and messy, perhaps from the Merlin.     

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DF Spoilers / TT Harry in Proven Guilty
« on: February 17, 2018, 07:09:45 PM »
OK, so some of us have chosen Harry as the most likely suspect to have fixed Little Chicago.  (I was never a big fan of this hypothesis until recently.) Of course I mean an older Harry who time travelled back to the past to do so.  Therefore it was TT Harry who hit and ran his younger self at the beginning of Proven Guilty in order to get his younger self out of the way for a while.  Before I continue I want to refer to best evidence that this hypothesis is the correct one.  From a conversation between Bob and Harry near the end of Proven Guilty about LC:

Bob - "No it isn't," Bob said. "Just really, really, really, really, really, really difficult. And unlikely. He would have had to know that you had a lab down here. And he would have had to know how to get around your wards."

Harry - "Plus intimate knowledge of the design to tinker with it like that," I said. "To say nothing of the fact that he would have to know it existed at all, and no one does."


Well, Thomas may have known, but his ability to do magic and understanding the nuts and bolts of how it works is limited.  So Bob may have been hinting it was a man who fixed Little Chicago and Harry's response strongly suggests he was the only man who fulfilled the requirements needed to do the job.

So if you accept that TT Harry fixed LC, that is all well and good, but what else did he do?  I mean you don't think an older Harry went through all the trouble it must have taken to travel back in time, and break one of the Laws of Magic, and then just head back home?  Recently, I re-watched an old episode of Deep Space Nine, "Trials and Tribble-ations" where Captain Sisco, Dax and company travel back to the Enterprise of Star Trek TOS. Specifically they go back into the episode "The Trouble with Tribbles."  It's was really, really well done, and it got me thinking about the mysteries of Proven Guilty and how TT Harry might fit in.  Here's part of a conversation between Harry and Ebenezer just a few paragraphs past the one above with Bob and Harry.

Harry- "I think we got played."

Eb - "By the Summer Lady?"

Harry - I shook my head. "I think Lily got suckered just as much as we did."

Eb - He frowned and rubbed at his head with one palm. "How so?"

Harry - "That's the part I can't figure," I said. "I think someone set Molly up to be a beacon for the fetches. And I'm damned sure that it was no accident that those fetches took Molly to Arctis Tor when it was so lightly defended. Someone wanted me there at Arctis Tor."

Ebenezar pursed his lips. "Who?"

"I think we got used by one of the Queens to one-up one of the others, somehow. But damned if I can figure out how."

OK, we know from a WOJ that Mab came out ahead after the events in PG, but during the novel she may have been stuck in her own realm, negotiating with the Black Council and defending her home, or at least holding down the fort in case a second attack came.  Harry and his party couldn't have made it to Arctis Tor if Lily hadn't given them some Summer protection, but the Winter Knight wouldn't have had any trouble with the cold.  So it's possible TT Harry may have gone to Arctis Tor and conspired with Mab in the events of PG.  The last sentence of the conversation between Eb and Harry probably refers to Maeve's manipulation of Lily, but perhaps more subtly it also points to Mab coming out on top in the game; possibly with the help of TT Harry.

Consider -  "Someone wanted me there at Arctis Tor."  Who fits that description better than a Harry himself?  I mean a future Harry who knows what would have happened happened if Molly didn't get help that she needed.  Following this logic it was TT Harry who set up Molly to be kidnapped by the fetches in order to save her.

That is as far as I have gotten.  I need to reread Proven Guilty to see if I can spot other places TT Harry might have intervened.  Of course, if this idea is correct then it is also possible TT Harry is at or near to many of the major events of PG, but doing his own thing; perhaps countering another time traveler as Sisko did in "Trials and Tribble-ations" or gathering more knowledge of the Black Council (or Outsider plans), or both.

For those of you who either came up with or have been on board with "TT Harry fixed LC" the longest, what else do you think TT Harry might have done and how do you think your ideas help explain the events in Proven Guilty?     





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DF Spoilers / Just a guess about Peace Talks
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:23:22 PM »
There has been a trend of the Dresden Files novels getting longer, though Skin Game had a lower word count than Cold Days.  Also, if you compare the Cinder Spires book with the first book of the Alera series; well, there is no comparison.  "The Aeronaut's Windless"  a much longer and more involved story.  Now we know Jim has had various life issues which have contributed to Peace Talks taking so long to get done, but does anyone else think (because I do) that Peace Talks is going to be a more complex story (or have more stories to tell within it) than what we usually get from a Dresden Files novel?  I mean Skin Game had a pretty basic story idea; a heist story where Harry was forced to work with Nicodemus and both of them would try to double-cross one another.  There were of course unexpected complications, but I'm just talking about the main plot of the novel.  Many of the early novels had easily identifiable A and a B plots.  For example, in "Blood Rites" Harry is trying to stop an unknown foe who is using an entropy curse to kill people on a porn movie set and at the same time he's organizing a strike team to find and kill Mavra.  These A and B plots are often related to each other in ways that Harry didn't understand, but again, I'm just talking about the basic plot structure, not how various elements might be blended into the overall story arc. 

I'm thinking that in Peace Talks, Jim has more balls to juggle than in perhaps any other Dresden Files book before it.  If you've read the preview first chapter you know that
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So if you didn't read the spoiler there are two issues that Harry will be involved with in some manner.  However, that leaves many other potential complications that in themselves may become their own, let's call them C and D plots.  Not to mention that the first issue in the spoiler is a rather open-ended one.  It's not a straightforward idea like, I want you work with Nicodemus and “I expect you to skin them alive” or "They've taken our daughter."  We can only guess where this story element may go and there is really nothing in the earlier novels that might give us more than a tiny hint of how this could play out.

Jim has said that Changes, Ghost Story and Cold Days could be described as an internal trilogy within the series, that turns it in a new direction.  I would argue that Skin Game should be added to this list and call it a quadrilogy within the overall story arc, because SG settles the issue of the "parasite" inside Harry's head we learned about in Ghost Story and it demonstrated that Harry; though at times with some difficulty, was learning to control the Winter Knight's mantel.  So we had Harry's life deconstructed in Changes and it has taken until the end of Skin Game to see that a new life is now possible for him.  So now that Jim has fully turned the ship around that means Harry will face more complicated situations to untangle and I think they begin in Peace Talks.

Just to give one example, we don't know what the future holds for the White Council and its most prominent members.  In Changes it almost seemed like a civil war was possible or that a coup was about to take place.  I suspect Jim was setting up serious complications and likely endings for one or more characters on the Council.  I won't be surprised if we see one or more of those complications or endings happen in Peace Talks.  That is just one possible avenue Jim might explore.  Think about all the other possible complications that might arise, and even if only one or two come to a boil, you've got a bigger and hopefully engaging novel for us to (eventually) read, and one that takes some effort to tie together.  All that said, I'm hoping that really soon we will read that Jim has finished or as he has often done in the past, he announces that only the denouement is left to write.   

PS: If you would like to make a guess at likely complications or plot twists we might encounter, feel free to do so.  I think it's about time we start compiling a prediction list and later see who came closest to the mark.       

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DF Spoilers / Proven Guilty - some minor unanswered questions
« on: October 21, 2017, 07:21:20 AM »
I thought it might be fun to look at some minor issues in Proven Guilty.

Harry hits the Winter Wellspring with Summer Fire which causes every Winter Fae on the border with Summer to rush back to Arctis Tor to try to kill Harry.  After getting back to Chicago Harry discovers that this was what Lily hoped would happen.   Harry figured out that Lily and Maeve were working together because when time got slowed down around Arctis Tor, this allowed Summer forces on the border with Winter to leave their defenses and go attack the Red Court and only Maeve had the ability to mess with time and how it flowed around Arctis Tor.  (OK Mab or Mother Winter could do the same thing but Lily wasn't talking to either of them.)

So here's mystery #1:  Did Harry have to specifically hit the Winter Well Spring to make this plan pay off?  Because if he did it seems like a real low probability move by Lily.  Harry could have fried Eldest Fetch without ever touching Winter's Well and how could Lily even predict Harry would have to get to the top of Arctis Tor in order to rescue Molly?  Theoretically, the battle could have taken place downstairs or in some room within the castle or on the stairs leading to the top.  Perhaps Maeve might have suggested where Harry would have to go to find Eldest Fetch and Molly. 

Even so, what if Harry hadn't hit the Well with Summer Fire and instead used Summer Fire to knock down a wall or parapet that was an integral part of the castle.  Would this have had the same effect on the Winter Fae at Summer's border?  I can't prove this but I have a feeling it would have been the same or near enough to make no difference in the overall result.  The way Jim has written about Mab's palace; though admittedly that's very little, suggests Arctid Tor is almost alive, and perhaps even sentient.  The way the castle reacted to blood being spilled on its floor is suggestive of the first and in Cold Days Harry mentions some lights and or shifting colors within the walls that he decided were probably unsafe to stare at for too long.  This suggests Artic Tor is more than another pretty Faerie Ice Castle.  There may be a specific psychic connection between Arctis Tor and all of Winter.  Someone could stand outside and throw rocks or even Hellfire at it and it wouldn't cause a reaction but an attack using Summer Fire or perhaps any specific Summer magic would cause all of Winter to come back to defend their Capitol.  So that's my answer to my own question.   

Minor mystery #2:  Was Maeve surprised that Lily's plan worked?  Maeve didn't think very highly of Lily so I wouldn't be surprised if she expected Lily's plan to fail.   If this was the case that would mean Maeve wasn't happy she had to slow time and allow Summer to attack the Red Court, but she had no choice if she wanted to continue to deceive Lily.

Minor mystery #3:  Was Maeve surprised that Harry survived his encounter with Eldest Fetch?  I'm guessing Maeve knew about Eldest Fetch because during the final confrontation with the Scarecrow Harry realizes he's dealing with a fetch, but one that has been granted extra power.  This suggests Nemesis involvement, though it doesn't absolutely prove it, but what else explains this?  If Maeve expected Harry to die than except for continuing to reinforce Lily's trust in her, Maeve didn't have a very good day.  She had to help Lily attack the Red Court which, even if it wasn't a full ally was at least a useful asset, and the annoying wizard survived another violent encounter that should have killed him. 

Do you have any different explanations or other questions about unsolved Proven Guilty mysteries that; as far as you know, haven't been discussed yet?

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DF Spoilers / Drama for Mister?
« on: October 01, 2017, 02:50:23 AM »
So Jim said we can expect some drama for Mister as we near the end of the series.  (At Salt Lake Comic Con last week.)  Speculate what that might mean for Mister and Harry.

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DF Spoilers / How far can Mab go to seek revenge on a mortal?
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:04:26 AM »
I have a more specific question I'm seeking an answer to.  So I'd like to get some opinions from the group mind.  This is about Mab personally killing a mortal rather than sending her Knight to do the job.  In Summer Knight we get this exchange between Bob and Harry:

"A Sidhe Knight is mortal," Bob said. "A champion of one of the Sidhe Courts. He gets powers in line with his Court, and he's the only one who is allowed to act in affairs not directly related to the Sidhe."

"Meaning?"

"Meaning that if one of the Queens wants an outsider dead, her Knight is the trigger man."

I frowned. "Hang on a minute. You mean that the Queens can't personally gun down anyone who isn't in their Court?"

"Not unless the target does something stupid like make an open-ended bargain without even trying to trade a baby for - "

"Off topic, Bob. Do I or don't I have to worry about getting killed this time around?"

"Of course you do," Bob said in a cheerful tone. "It just means that the Queen isn't allowed to actually, personally end your life. They could, however, trick you into walking into quicksand and watch you drown, turn you into a stag and set the hounds after you, bind you into an enchanted sleep for a few hundred years, that kind of thing."


Of course Bob doesn't know everything.  He thought the Summer Knight does the same job for Titania that the Winter Knight does for Mab.  So here is what I'm wondering about.  Mab was furious about her daughter being tainted by Nemesis.  Lea told Harry she went gonzo on the Red Court at Chicken Pizza because Lea owed them payback for Bianca giving her such a "treacherous gift."  However, I'm mostly concerned with Mab here.

So if Mab became aware that a pair of mortal wizards handled the item which tainted Maeve through Lea, how far would she be allowed to go to seek vengeance against them, assuming it could be proven that at least one of them was part of the plot to taint Lea?  While it was done in a stealthy manner, I would say that giving Lea the tainted Athame was a direct attack against the Winter Court and therefore it would be considered to be an act directly concerned with the Sidhe.  Do you think Mab would need to tell Harry to kill the people involved or could she could do the job herself, and not just indirectly by turning Cowl into a stag and setting the hounds after him; which now that I think about sounds like something Lea might do.

I'm assuming if Lea found out first she wouldn't need Harry or anyone else to seek vengeance for her, though Cowl might be a handful for Lea to deal with on her own.  Discus.   

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DF Spoilers / Morgan and Kemmler
« on: September 08, 2017, 07:21:10 AM »
In one of the Q&A's Jim did at Dragon Con, someone asked Jim if he ever considered writing a short story from Donald Morgan's POV.  While Jim didn't completely dismiss the idea, he said such a short story would be something of a downer because Morgan's personal history was very dark.  Specifically, Jim said Kemmler killed Morgan's parents and the rest of his family.  Anastasia Luccio rescued Morgan.  Unfortunately Jim didn't give any other details such as how old Donald Morgan was at the time or why Kemmler went after Morgan's family. 

I never realized how far Jim had worked out Morgan's backstory.  I wonder if sometime in a future book Anastasia will fill Harry in on Kemmler's history; I mean in more detail than Bob did, and her personal history of dealing with him and his followers.  Kemmler may be gone for good; or maybe not, but I'd bet dollars to donuts his legacy will play a major part in future events. 

Here's a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQDTvMv1otI&t=15s

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DF Spoilers / A Cowl WAG - I promise it's new
« on: August 30, 2017, 12:37:46 AM »
OK, so a number of people think Cowl might be Simon Pietrovich, the Senior Council member who was supposedly killed when the Red Court stormed; or where let into, Simon's personal fortress at Archangel.  Nothing new about that. 

Here's the new WAG.  Simon/Cowl was turned.  The Red Court survived but not because the Eebs are still alive; it survived because Cowl was in the Nevernever when the Bloodline curse went off.  I can go further and guess that Cowl was like Susan at the time of Deadbeat, in that he may have only been half-turned, but after Harry almost blew him up by messing up the darkhallow, Cowl had to feed in order to stay alive.  Let's see how long it takes to disprove this one.   

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DF Spoilers / Luccio's perspective compared to Harry's
« on: July 20, 2017, 12:15:59 AM »
After reading the latest short story featuring Luccio in Dodge City (A Fistful of Warlocks), I started thinking about Anastasia Luccio and other White Council members personal perspectives versus that of Harry's.  So Anastasia was born in the late 18th or early 19th Century.  Let's say she joins the White Council around 1830 or a little before that.  After a few years she is introduced to older members of Council, perhaps even a Senior Council member or two.  Consider that with the possible exception of Ancient Mai, every other SC member is from an older generation than the members we see today. 

Now stop and think about your own life and stories you heard as a child from either your grandparents or other relatives who where older than your mother or father or maybe even from a next door neighbor who was around the same age as your grandparents.  Think particularly about those stories about what life was like when they were children.  So the living memory of other people you have been exposed to may go back sixty or seventy years before you were born, occasionally more if you had any particularly long lived family members who told you a story or two that really impressed you.  I'll give you an example from my life.  When I was a child; maybe eight or nine, my family went to a wedding in New Mexico, I think near Silver City.  I grew up near Los Angeles, CA so this was something unusual.  Before the wedding my mother met with some of her cousins.  One of them showed my mother an photo album with pictures of people, none of whom I knew, though my mom recognized several.  There was one very old picture; think Teddy Roosevelt era, of a young man that my mom asked about.  I think the only reason she asked was because the photo was so old.  Her cousin identified this man as a great uncle on her father's side, someone she had never met, but a person her grandfather had talked about a great deal.  He had been a soldier during the First World War and had died in his mid to late 20's, during the 1920's, but it had been the war that had killed him.  She told us that he had been a victim of a poison gas attack and he never really recovered from it, it slowly destroyed his lungs over time.  It was a horrifying story and the person who told it hadn't actually witnessed it, but the story her grandfather told her made an impression on her and later on me.  That's one small example of living memory being passed down from one generation to another, actually several generations.

Think about the people Anastasia met when she became a Warden or even earlier than that.  Some of the older European Council members she met not only had lived during the time of witch burnings in Europe, they may have witnessed someone being burned at the stake. (The Witchcraft Act of 1735 in Great Britain made in illegal to claim someone had magical powers or was a witch.  Though witch hunts continued sporadically for sometime after that in other places.)  It's one thing to read about something like this in a book, now imagine having a friend, colleague or family member who could describe to you the crowd of onlookers, the executioner and the victim or victims.  Then imagine this living witness telling you about the sound of the crowd made and the crackling of the fire, the screams of the victim(s), the smell of burning flesh and the feeling of pure fear that you could be next.

Harry has an academic appreciation that wizards were once burned as witches.  Luccio, Ebenezer, Arthur Langtry and other older members of the White Council didn't experience this directly, but they knew people who did.  I think this explains; at least partially, why Council members are disturbed by Harry's openness to openly proclaim himself a wizard; and some of his other more flippant behavior, even if most of society thinks that he is a crackpot.     

 

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Here's a link to a short video of Jim being interviewed by Patrick Rothfuss at C2E2 in Chicago a few days ago.  They talk about Cinder Spires, RPG'S and video games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KmNA2EZbg8

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