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DF Spoilers / What will Harry do if he discovers?
« on: May 07, 2019, 02:20:38 AM »
The demon Chaunzaggoroth told Harry both his parents died unnatural deaths.  Assuming the demon wasn't lying, we can easily guess that Harry will want payback if the perpetrator is an obvious bad guy like Cowl or Lara Raith. (I don't think either of them are responsible.)  There won't be anything he can do if Justin DuMorne was the murderer and was solely responsible for Malcolm's death.  (No Justin IS dead.) 

I think the reason why Harry hasn't tried to determine if Chauncy was telling the truth about the deaths of both of his parents isn't that he had nowhere to search.  Harry is a wizard with both major and minor contacts within the supernatural world and on the White Council.  Aside from supernatural beings, Harry could have asked Ebenezer, Luccio or even Morgan when he was dragging him around in Turn Coat, if the Council had any knowledge of Malcolm Dresden's death beyond when it occurred. 

How did the White Council know Harry was Margaret LeFay's son?  Presumably the Council either knew this before Harry became Justin's ward or they learned about it after Justin died.   In the first scenario the Council approved that Justin was teaching Harry.  In the latter scenario the Council did an investigation after Justin died and discovered the truth then.  Ebenezer met Malcolm Dresden and may have even soulgazed him, but that doesn't mean he reported this meeting to the Council.

I'm not saying anyone on the White Council could give Harry the information he'd be looking for.  It's possible none of them know anything about Malcolm Dresden other than his name, date of death and possibly his profession.  So why didn't Harry ask any of the three people I named if they knew anything?  OK, maybe asking Morgan is a stretch because of the stress and time constraints Harry was working under in Turn Coat, but there were times both onscreen and off when Harry could have asked either or both Ebenezer and Luccio about Malcolm Dresden.

Here's my answer to the above question and I've said this in another post.  I think Harry knows there is a potential volcano of anger over the death of his father just waiting to erupt if he discovers his father was murdered.  Before he learned the truth about his mother's death Harry could tell himself that Chauncy was lying.  He can't do that any longer.  I think deep down Harry is afraid to ask any further questions in this area, so he blocks any and all thinking about this at all.  So the question I am asking in the subject of this thread is what will Harry do if:

1. Ebenezer murdered his father on orders from the Council?
2. The Council knew Justin had Harry's father murdered but looked the other way because Justin didn't do it himself, meaning he didn't break any of the Laws of magic, and they felt safer with a former Warden teaching Harry?
3. Lea murdered his father because of a deal she had with Justin?
4. Lea knew Malcolm Dresden was going to be murdered but did nothing because Malcolm's safety wasn't covered by her deal with Margaret?
5.  Or some other really ugly scenario featuring the above players or anyone else Harry trusts or at least doesn't think of as pure evil?

You see, I think that just because Harry's life was turned upside down after Changes and he's had to adjust to an entire new set of threats and responsibilities that he still hasn't faced his greatest emotional challenge.  Sooner or later the truth will come out about Malcolm's death and Harry will be faced with a real moral dilemma.  I think Margaret LeFay's murder will have been simple by comparison.  A bad guy wanted revenge and a bad guy got revenge. 

What do you think will happen?  Perhaps this will be when LTW teaches Harry how to deal with anger?  Perhaps you think Harry has other issues or mysteries that will bring him personal grief.  Discuss.   

   

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DF Books / Harry, Star Wars and pop culture in general.
« on: May 02, 2019, 01:16:28 AM »
Harry likes to make fun of supernatural characters who live around humans but don't keep up with current pop culture. He even likes to mention that older wizards have trouble keeping up with modern culture.  The early books started with Harry making pop references from the 1980's.  As late as Cold Days Harry recognizes Shinedown's 45 being played at his birthday party in Arctis Tor.  But 45 came out in what year, 2003? 

Harry is a Star Wars fan, but I don't know if he has ever said anything about the prequels.  The last two Star Wars movies; but particularly The Last Jedi, polorized much of the Star Wars fan base.  Assuming the Dresden verse is parallelling our own time line, I wonder if Harry has had the time to even notice things like the Star Wars controversy or that the MCU has overtaken Star Wars as the most popular movie franchise.

This may seem like really minor stuff, but it is part of the Harry we have got to know and love.  Now that Harry is a parent I wonder if we see him be baffled by some pop culture nugget Maggie mentions.  After all, she can still watch television; when she's at the Carpenter's home, and shouldn't have any problem going to movie theaters, at least for a little while longer.  Discuss 

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In "Changes," Harry tells Mab he will become the Winter Knight if she heals him so he can rescue his daughter and "give me your word that you will never command me to lift my hand against those I love."  So I'm not talking about that caveat in their agreement.

I want to know if anyone on the forum who has read about the mythology of the fae knows of something, anything the fae aren't allowed to do to, or ask of mortals, even if it isn't specifically about Mab or any of the fae with names that might signify Mab.  I have this odd idea how Harry might get out of the Winter Knight gig.

When Harry agrees to be the Winter Knight Mab says to him, "Once you are my Knight, once this last quest of yours is complete, you are mine. You will destroy what I wish you to destroy. Kill whatsoever I wish you to kill. You will be mine, blood, bone, and breath. Do you understand this?"  That sounds awfully complete, but the term "blood, bone, and breath" sounds more like a term of art; Mab bragging about being Harry's new boss, rather than an actual terms that he must fulfill.  It seems to me the destroying and killing part are the crucial orders Harry has to carry out.  Plus, I find it more than just odd that Harry doesn't automatically get to learn Winter Law or have an easily obtainable source; like a book or tutor, to learn it from.  It's almost like Mab doesn't want Harry to know anymore about Winter Law than she needs him to know.

So I'm thinking, what if Mab really wants Harry to do something, but it's not something he's obligated to do as the Winter Knight.  If Harry thinks he has to do Mab's bidding, it doesn't matter, he does the job, Mab is happy and (if he survives) Harry remains the Winter Knight.  However, if Harry learns that Winter Law doesn't apply to this particular job, he could say, "I will do it as a favor Mab, if you ask me."  Then; if Mab is forced to ask Harry to do this task as a favor, I think Harry's old deal with Mab supersedes the current one.  As a reminder that deal goes like this; "From time to time, I will make a request of you. When you have fulfilled three requests, your obligation to me ceases."  I don't think there was anything said when Harry became the Winter Knight that nullifies that.   

I think many of us have had the thought that if Harry finds a way out of the Winter Knight job, Mab can still ask one more favor of him.  That not only seems logical, it's something we can all predict will happen.  If I'm right about why Harry doesn't have an easy way to learn Winter Law, then not only is the idea that Harry might be able to turn the tables on Mab a viable one, it's something Jim might want to do in order to subvert our expectations, but do so in a good way.  (Not like we have seen in a once uber popular, now crippled, maybe dying movie franchise that I will not name.)   

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DF Spoilers / Time travel to revisit dead friends and enemies
« on: January 09, 2019, 02:30:31 AM »
This idea comes from a post that was made several years ago.  There was a forum member who predicted that Maeve was at Splttercon!!! disguised as the girl wearing vampire makeup and teeth that freaked out Harry and almost caused him to go into full attack mode.  There was nothing wrong with making this WAG, but this forum member continued to post this idea after Maeve died at the end of Cold Days.  From strictly a dramatic or story telling point of view, this seemed highly unlikely to me, because what would be the point of finding out half a dozen or more books after Proven Guilty and several books after Maeve had died that she was making moves behind the scenes at the horror convention?  If you found out now that Maeve had been working with the fetches would you really care?  Probably not because in the Dresden verse Maeve is dead and gone and therfore no longer has a role to play in the story.  However, there is one exception, and it applies to every other dead character in the series.

Jim has said that Harry will eventually have to break all the laws of magic, so it seems likely we will get a time travel Dresden Files novel from Jim.  I picture it as being similar to the Star Trek Deep Space Nine "Trials and Tribble-ations" episode, where the characters from Deep Space Nine had to go back in time to stop another time traveller from changing the outcome of "The Touble with Tribles" episode of ST TOS.  However, I'm not saying Harry will go back and revist the events of Proven Guilty; though that seems like a really good guess to me, and I'm not saying Harry will learn anything new about Maeve, though he might.

What I'm asking; actually I'm asking several things, is what time do you expect, or would like to see, Harry to go back to?  If not Proven Guilty, why?  Which character or characters; who have joined the choir invisible, will we see Harry interact with?  Do you expect anyone else to take this trip with Harry?  What do you think Harry will learn or what would you like him to learn?  If there is anything else I've missed about time travel you would like to discuss, by all means go ahead.

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DF Spoilers / Create a fake spoiler for Peace Talks - for fun
« on: October 02, 2018, 02:13:25 AM »
I followed a link in another post to the Amazon webpage for the 16th Dresden Files novel that doesn't even name it Peace Talks and (wisely) doesn't give a release date.  After seeing this (placeholder?) webpage I had a very real desire to create a fake book review for PT.  I clicked on the link to do so and it looks like I could if I wanted too.  I wasn't sure how I would claim to know what's in the novel.  It wouldn't tell a blatant lie such as Jim let me see an advanced copy of the novel.  That would be gauche.  I thought of doing something more creative.  I played with the idea of claiming; after I wrote a long extended sentence or two of BS to hide or obscure my deception from most readers, that I psychically read the entire novel before Jim finished writing it.

The real problem is what I'd write about Peace Talks itself.  I'd give it 5-stars, I know that much, but it gets a little fuzzy after that.  Normally, if I review something; which is pretty rare, I don't like to give away any spoilers.  However, in making up a fake review perhaps creating some fake spoilers would be fun, but then there's the question of how far to go with my make believe spoilers.  For example, it would be one thing to say to my audience, "Those of you waiting for Ebenezar and Thomas to finally meet one another won't be disappointed," but it might be far more enjoyable to be more creative and say something like, "I had wondered what would happen when Eb and Thomas first spoke to each other, but I never  pictured them having to team up to fight a kaiju to protect a wounded Harry.  That scene was more cool than Harry riding zombie tyrannosaurus Sue in Dead Beat." 

Of course rather than making up nonexistent book scenes to review I could hint at scenes without actually describing anything at all.  For example, "Some readers may be upset at direction Jim appears to be heading Murphy towards."  That's a really vague statement that could mean anything to anyone.

So I guess my challenge for anyone reading this post is to create a fake spoiler for Peace Talks; however detailed or vaguely suggestive you'd like to make it, and post it here.             

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DF Spoilers / Ask Jim Questions - Today!
« on: June 01, 2018, 07:07:07 AM »
What follows is copied directly from Jim Butcher's long dormant twitter feed:

My name is Jim Butcher and I write stories.  Ask me anything, Friday at 12:30pm Mountain Time on Reddit!
12:39 PM - 31 May 2018


Just a guess on my part, but Jim must be very, very close to wrapping up Peace Talks; or maybe he's finished and will announce it officially today, seeing as Jim must know he will be asked "how much longer?"

What I really want to suggest is that if your able to do so, now would be a good time to ask Jim some deep questions that he might answer.  Something less obvious and direct as "who fixed Little Chicago?" or overasked like "Why did you choose Chicago to set the story in?"  I have to work Friday afternoon so I'm counting on you guys to ask some interesting questions only members of this forum could come up with.  Sorry I wasn't able to post this earlier, but I just got in on a late flight from Los Angeles and am about to hit the sack.     

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DF Spoilers / Are there more wizards like Elaine?
« on: May 30, 2018, 06:26:22 PM »
I'll start by answering my own question so as to better define it.  We learned from Lea in Ghost Story that Mort Lindquist hid his true ability from the Council.  Lea said that Mortimer's power level was likely greater than Harry's, though limited to his own field of expertise.  Elaine deliberately hide her abilities from Warden Ramirez.  Harry knows Cowl is White Council material, he even speculates that Cowl and Kumori hide their identities because they are Council members, but Harry could be wrong.  At least one or maybe both Necromancers hide their identities of the more obvious reason that they simply don't want to be recognized at any place or time.  Even Necromancers have to go to the supermarket after all.  They can't really send a ghost and sending a zombie would require too much effort and defeat the purpose of being incognito.

I wonder if there are a significant number of wizards who are hiding their true abilities.  Some of them might be like Cowl and Kumori who chose a dark path and need to hide from the Council, while others might have met a warden when they were younger; say someone like Morgan explaining what happens to a person who breaks the laws of magic, and decided, "These White Council guys are as**oles, I don't want to be any part of their organization."

I find it hard to believe Elaine is alone in her feelings about the White Council.  I wouldn't be surprised if not everyone Harry dismisses as the "have nots of magic", the people who hang out at Mac's, are really below White Council standards.       

 

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Jim has said that Peace Talks will feature a great deal supernatural violence.  My question isn't about who you want to see die; though you may want that too, it's about who would you like to see go out in a knock down drag out bloody fight to the finish? 

If it's a wizard, perhaps we will see them throw a death curse that unleashes mayhem on their antagonist or antagonists.  I'd like to see a death curse that doesn't have any subtlety to it; unlike Quintus Cassius' curse against Harry or the one Margaret LeFay laid on Lord Raith, something really spectacular and messy, perhaps from the Merlin.     

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DF Spoilers / TT Harry in Proven Guilty
« on: February 17, 2018, 07:09:45 PM »
OK, so some of us have chosen Harry as the most likely suspect to have fixed Little Chicago.  (I was never a big fan of this hypothesis until recently.) Of course I mean an older Harry who time travelled back to the past to do so.  Therefore it was TT Harry who hit and ran his younger self at the beginning of Proven Guilty in order to get his younger self out of the way for a while.  Before I continue I want to refer to best evidence that this hypothesis is the correct one.  From a conversation between Bob and Harry near the end of Proven Guilty about LC:

Bob - "No it isn't," Bob said. "Just really, really, really, really, really, really difficult. And unlikely. He would have had to know that you had a lab down here. And he would have had to know how to get around your wards."

Harry - "Plus intimate knowledge of the design to tinker with it like that," I said. "To say nothing of the fact that he would have to know it existed at all, and no one does."


Well, Thomas may have known, but his ability to do magic and understanding the nuts and bolts of how it works is limited.  So Bob may have been hinting it was a man who fixed Little Chicago and Harry's response strongly suggests he was the only man who fulfilled the requirements needed to do the job.

So if you accept that TT Harry fixed LC, that is all well and good, but what else did he do?  I mean you don't think an older Harry went through all the trouble it must have taken to travel back in time, and break one of the Laws of Magic, and then just head back home?  Recently, I re-watched an old episode of Deep Space Nine, "Trials and Tribble-ations" where Captain Sisco, Dax and company travel back to the Enterprise of Star Trek TOS. Specifically they go back into the episode "The Trouble with Tribbles."  It's was really, really well done, and it got me thinking about the mysteries of Proven Guilty and how TT Harry might fit in.  Here's part of a conversation between Harry and Ebenezer just a few paragraphs past the one above with Bob and Harry.

Harry- "I think we got played."

Eb - "By the Summer Lady?"

Harry - I shook my head. "I think Lily got suckered just as much as we did."

Eb - He frowned and rubbed at his head with one palm. "How so?"

Harry - "That's the part I can't figure," I said. "I think someone set Molly up to be a beacon for the fetches. And I'm damned sure that it was no accident that those fetches took Molly to Arctis Tor when it was so lightly defended. Someone wanted me there at Arctis Tor."

Ebenezar pursed his lips. "Who?"

"I think we got used by one of the Queens to one-up one of the others, somehow. But damned if I can figure out how."

OK, we know from a WOJ that Mab came out ahead after the events in PG, but during the novel she may have been stuck in her own realm, negotiating with the Black Council and defending her home, or at least holding down the fort in case a second attack came.  Harry and his party couldn't have made it to Arctis Tor if Lily hadn't given them some Summer protection, but the Winter Knight wouldn't have had any trouble with the cold.  So it's possible TT Harry may have gone to Arctis Tor and conspired with Mab in the events of PG.  The last sentence of the conversation between Eb and Harry probably refers to Maeve's manipulation of Lily, but perhaps more subtly it also points to Mab coming out on top in the game; possibly with the help of TT Harry.

Consider -  "Someone wanted me there at Arctis Tor."  Who fits that description better than a Harry himself?  I mean a future Harry who knows what would have happened happened if Molly didn't get help that she needed.  Following this logic it was TT Harry who set up Molly to be kidnapped by the fetches in order to save her.

That is as far as I have gotten.  I need to reread Proven Guilty to see if I can spot other places TT Harry might have intervened.  Of course, if this idea is correct then it is also possible TT Harry is at or near to many of the major events of PG, but doing his own thing; perhaps countering another time traveler as Sisko did in "Trials and Tribble-ations" or gathering more knowledge of the Black Council (or Outsider plans), or both.

For those of you who either came up with or have been on board with "TT Harry fixed LC" the longest, what else do you think TT Harry might have done and how do you think your ideas help explain the events in Proven Guilty?     





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DF Spoilers / Just a guess about Peace Talks
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:23:22 PM »
There has been a trend of the Dresden Files novels getting longer, though Skin Game had a lower word count than Cold Days.  Also, if you compare the Cinder Spires book with the first book of the Alera series; well, there is no comparison.  "The Aeronaut's Windless"  a much longer and more involved story.  Now we know Jim has had various life issues which have contributed to Peace Talks taking so long to get done, but does anyone else think (because I do) that Peace Talks is going to be a more complex story (or have more stories to tell within it) than what we usually get from a Dresden Files novel?  I mean Skin Game had a pretty basic story idea; a heist story where Harry was forced to work with Nicodemus and both of them would try to double-cross one another.  There were of course unexpected complications, but I'm just talking about the main plot of the novel.  Many of the early novels had easily identifiable A and a B plots.  For example, in "Blood Rites" Harry is trying to stop an unknown foe who is using an entropy curse to kill people on a porn movie set and at the same time he's organizing a strike team to find and kill Mavra.  These A and B plots are often related to each other in ways that Harry didn't understand, but again, I'm just talking about the basic plot structure, not how various elements might be blended into the overall story arc. 

I'm thinking that in Peace Talks, Jim has more balls to juggle than in perhaps any other Dresden Files book before it.  If you've read the preview first chapter you know that
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So if you didn't read the spoiler there are two issues that Harry will be involved with in some manner.  However, that leaves many other potential complications that in themselves may become their own, let's call them C and D plots.  Not to mention that the first issue in the spoiler is a rather open-ended one.  It's not a straightforward idea like, I want you work with Nicodemus and “I expect you to skin them alive” or "They've taken our daughter."  We can only guess where this story element may go and there is really nothing in the earlier novels that might give us more than a tiny hint of how this could play out.

Jim has said that Changes, Ghost Story and Cold Days could be described as an internal trilogy within the series, that turns it in a new direction.  I would argue that Skin Game should be added to this list and call it a quadrilogy within the overall story arc, because SG settles the issue of the "parasite" inside Harry's head we learned about in Ghost Story and it demonstrated that Harry; though at times with some difficulty, was learning to control the Winter Knight's mantel.  So we had Harry's life deconstructed in Changes and it has taken until the end of Skin Game to see that a new life is now possible for him.  So now that Jim has fully turned the ship around that means Harry will face more complicated situations to untangle and I think they begin in Peace Talks.

Just to give one example, we don't know what the future holds for the White Council and its most prominent members.  In Changes it almost seemed like a civil war was possible or that a coup was about to take place.  I suspect Jim was setting up serious complications and likely endings for one or more characters on the Council.  I won't be surprised if we see one or more of those complications or endings happen in Peace Talks.  That is just one possible avenue Jim might explore.  Think about all the other possible complications that might arise, and even if only one or two come to a boil, you've got a bigger and hopefully engaging novel for us to (eventually) read, and one that takes some effort to tie together.  All that said, I'm hoping that really soon we will read that Jim has finished or as he has often done in the past, he announces that only the denouement is left to write.   

PS: If you would like to make a guess at likely complications or plot twists we might encounter, feel free to do so.  I think it's about time we start compiling a prediction list and later see who came closest to the mark.       

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DF Spoilers / Proven Guilty - some minor unanswered questions
« on: October 21, 2017, 07:21:20 AM »
I thought it might be fun to look at some minor issues in Proven Guilty.

Harry hits the Winter Wellspring with Summer Fire which causes every Winter Fae on the border with Summer to rush back to Arctis Tor to try to kill Harry.  After getting back to Chicago Harry discovers that this was what Lily hoped would happen.   Harry figured out that Lily and Maeve were working together because when time got slowed down around Arctis Tor, this allowed Summer forces on the border with Winter to leave their defenses and go attack the Red Court and only Maeve had the ability to mess with time and how it flowed around Arctis Tor.  (OK Mab or Mother Winter could do the same thing but Lily wasn't talking to either of them.)

So here's mystery #1:  Did Harry have to specifically hit the Winter Well Spring to make this plan pay off?  Because if he did it seems like a real low probability move by Lily.  Harry could have fried Eldest Fetch without ever touching Winter's Well and how could Lily even predict Harry would have to get to the top of Arctis Tor in order to rescue Molly?  Theoretically, the battle could have taken place downstairs or in some room within the castle or on the stairs leading to the top.  Perhaps Maeve might have suggested where Harry would have to go to find Eldest Fetch and Molly. 

Even so, what if Harry hadn't hit the Well with Summer Fire and instead used Summer Fire to knock down a wall or parapet that was an integral part of the castle.  Would this have had the same effect on the Winter Fae at Summer's border?  I can't prove this but I have a feeling it would have been the same or near enough to make no difference in the overall result.  The way Jim has written about Mab's palace; though admittedly that's very little, suggests Arctid Tor is almost alive, and perhaps even sentient.  The way the castle reacted to blood being spilled on its floor is suggestive of the first and in Cold Days Harry mentions some lights and or shifting colors within the walls that he decided were probably unsafe to stare at for too long.  This suggests Artic Tor is more than another pretty Faerie Ice Castle.  There may be a specific psychic connection between Arctis Tor and all of Winter.  Someone could stand outside and throw rocks or even Hellfire at it and it wouldn't cause a reaction but an attack using Summer Fire or perhaps any specific Summer magic would cause all of Winter to come back to defend their Capitol.  So that's my answer to my own question.   

Minor mystery #2:  Was Maeve surprised that Lily's plan worked?  Maeve didn't think very highly of Lily so I wouldn't be surprised if she expected Lily's plan to fail.   If this was the case that would mean Maeve wasn't happy she had to slow time and allow Summer to attack the Red Court, but she had no choice if she wanted to continue to deceive Lily.

Minor mystery #3:  Was Maeve surprised that Harry survived his encounter with Eldest Fetch?  I'm guessing Maeve knew about Eldest Fetch because during the final confrontation with the Scarecrow Harry realizes he's dealing with a fetch, but one that has been granted extra power.  This suggests Nemesis involvement, though it doesn't absolutely prove it, but what else explains this?  If Maeve expected Harry to die than except for continuing to reinforce Lily's trust in her, Maeve didn't have a very good day.  She had to help Lily attack the Red Court which, even if it wasn't a full ally was at least a useful asset, and the annoying wizard survived another violent encounter that should have killed him. 

Do you have any different explanations or other questions about unsolved Proven Guilty mysteries that; as far as you know, haven't been discussed yet?

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DF Spoilers / Drama for Mister?
« on: October 01, 2017, 02:50:23 AM »
So Jim said we can expect some drama for Mister as we near the end of the series.  (At Salt Lake Comic Con last week.)  Speculate what that might mean for Mister and Harry.

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DF Spoilers / How far can Mab go to seek revenge on a mortal?
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:04:26 AM »
I have a more specific question I'm seeking an answer to.  So I'd like to get some opinions from the group mind.  This is about Mab personally killing a mortal rather than sending her Knight to do the job.  In Summer Knight we get this exchange between Bob and Harry:

"A Sidhe Knight is mortal," Bob said. "A champion of one of the Sidhe Courts. He gets powers in line with his Court, and he's the only one who is allowed to act in affairs not directly related to the Sidhe."

"Meaning?"

"Meaning that if one of the Queens wants an outsider dead, her Knight is the trigger man."

I frowned. "Hang on a minute. You mean that the Queens can't personally gun down anyone who isn't in their Court?"

"Not unless the target does something stupid like make an open-ended bargain without even trying to trade a baby for - "

"Off topic, Bob. Do I or don't I have to worry about getting killed this time around?"

"Of course you do," Bob said in a cheerful tone. "It just means that the Queen isn't allowed to actually, personally end your life. They could, however, trick you into walking into quicksand and watch you drown, turn you into a stag and set the hounds after you, bind you into an enchanted sleep for a few hundred years, that kind of thing."


Of course Bob doesn't know everything.  He thought the Summer Knight does the same job for Titania that the Winter Knight does for Mab.  So here is what I'm wondering about.  Mab was furious about her daughter being tainted by Nemesis.  Lea told Harry she went gonzo on the Red Court at Chicken Pizza because Lea owed them payback for Bianca giving her such a "treacherous gift."  However, I'm mostly concerned with Mab here.

So if Mab became aware that a pair of mortal wizards handled the item which tainted Maeve through Lea, how far would she be allowed to go to seek vengeance against them, assuming it could be proven that at least one of them was part of the plot to taint Lea?  While it was done in a stealthy manner, I would say that giving Lea the tainted Athame was a direct attack against the Winter Court and therefore it would be considered to be an act directly concerned with the Sidhe.  Do you think Mab would need to tell Harry to kill the people involved or could she could do the job herself, and not just indirectly by turning Cowl into a stag and setting the hounds after him; which now that I think about sounds like something Lea might do.

I'm assuming if Lea found out first she wouldn't need Harry or anyone else to seek vengeance for her, though Cowl might be a handful for Lea to deal with on her own.  Discus.   

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DF Spoilers / Morgan and Kemmler
« on: September 08, 2017, 07:21:10 AM »
In one of the Q&A's Jim did at Dragon Con, someone asked Jim if he ever considered writing a short story from Donald Morgan's POV.  While Jim didn't completely dismiss the idea, he said such a short story would be something of a downer because Morgan's personal history was very dark.  Specifically, Jim said Kemmler killed Morgan's parents and the rest of his family.  Anastasia Luccio rescued Morgan.  Unfortunately Jim didn't give any other details such as how old Donald Morgan was at the time or why Kemmler went after Morgan's family. 

I never realized how far Jim had worked out Morgan's backstory.  I wonder if sometime in a future book Anastasia will fill Harry in on Kemmler's history; I mean in more detail than Bob did, and her personal history of dealing with him and his followers.  Kemmler may be gone for good; or maybe not, but I'd bet dollars to donuts his legacy will play a major part in future events. 

Here's a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQDTvMv1otI&t=15s

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DF Spoilers / A Cowl WAG - I promise it's new
« on: August 30, 2017, 12:37:46 AM »
OK, so a number of people think Cowl might be Simon Pietrovich, the Senior Council member who was supposedly killed when the Red Court stormed; or where let into, Simon's personal fortress at Archangel.  Nothing new about that. 

Here's the new WAG.  Simon/Cowl was turned.  The Red Court survived but not because the Eebs are still alive; it survived because Cowl was in the Nevernever when the Bloodline curse went off.  I can go further and guess that Cowl was like Susan at the time of Deadbeat, in that he may have only been half-turned, but after Harry almost blew him up by messing up the darkhallow, Cowl had to feed in order to stay alive.  Let's see how long it takes to disprove this one.   

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