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GS Book Club / Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« on: August 03, 2011, 06:17:55 AM »
Quote from: Warden John Marcone on August 03, 2011, 03:16:29 AM
But she didn't KILL them.  She manipulated the situation to cause the deaths, but she wasn't the killer.  Subtle but important distinction.
It is only a violation of the first law if the killings were human. What is human in respect to the first law may sometimes be debatable but the servitors of the fomor do not consider themselves human and maybe the white council will agree with them.



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GS Book Club / Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 1-15 **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« on: August 02, 2011, 01:10:08 PM »
Quote from: haniel2 on July 28, 2011, 02:33:38 AM
Felicia. A new wild card like Daniel Carpenter. Guess there had to be a White Court connection somewhere, and it had to be someone we didn't know. Otherwise, why the big set up about the Swords and Daniel's loose lips and Murphy's bad-a$$ take down of a vamp? Oh -- and I don't believe Felicia will keep quiet, regardless of Murphy's threats. The Swords would be too sweet a temptation.

Maybe not that sweet. Lara can not use the swords. She can not even unmake them so she can only keep them or sell them. She probably has more than enough problems without making new ones.

Maybe Thomas would object. 

It was careless to let it slip but the consequences may be minimal.

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GS Book Club / Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« on: August 02, 2011, 07:37:25 AM »
Quote from: john4200 on July 27, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
So, which of the Fallen whispered in Harry's ear in the flashback from Changes? The Fallen looked like a shadow, so maybe Nicodemus?

Also, it was interesting that Mab lied to Harry. Harry always thought that the Fae were incapable of lying, but Uriel confirmed Mab's lie in the first of his seven words.

Mab can not do it but Harry can. And as long as Harry believes Mab can do it Mab can influence Harry so he will do it himself. Mab obviously thought she could do it that way.

If you read what she said she probably (I did not check all her statements) give predictions how it would end and suggestions and so on. Much like the promises Aurora gave to Slate. Technically not lies and that is enough. Uriel uses a more human approach to what is lying. He is talking to Harry, not to Mab.


 


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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Answer(hopefully) to Who Fixed Little Chicago (FULL SPOILERS)
« on: July 11, 2011, 03:09:38 PM »
Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on July 11, 2011, 02:10:22 PM
Harry's wards and threshold ?
And not just breaking them but leaving no traces at all.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: A fresh perspective on Proven Guity (Spoilers for everything)
« on: July 11, 2011, 02:57:47 PM »
Quote from: Sm0kEyNy on July 11, 2011, 02:16:50 PM
kincaid has no magical talent tho so that not really a good comparison
We actually don't know scions with magical talents.
Maybe it is even more difficult. If the magic comes from the human parent.........

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DF Reference Collection / Re: A fresh perspective on Proven Guity (Spoilers for everything)
« on: July 11, 2011, 01:10:47 PM »
Quote from: laura118b on July 11, 2011, 05:27:35 AM
Except it does still work, Glau wasn't human and non humans don't have the tech problems. 
Glau is half human like Kincaid. We don't know how it works out in these cases.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Origins of the Three Eye drug. (Changes spoiler)
« on: July 07, 2011, 12:57:24 PM »
Quote from: Me Grimlock King on June 29, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
So basically, the whole series and everything that harry has gone up against so far, has been to try to get Harry to leave the White Council, and join "someone".  I would say that sounds like overkill just to get Harry.  I also think that it was overkill to set up the outrageously powerful Bloodline spell just to take out EB, but that's me.
Mab does not know the word overkill when she tries to recruit Harry  ;D

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Origins of the Three Eye drug. (Changes spoiler)
« on: July 07, 2011, 12:01:27 PM »
Quote from: Zolt on July 07, 2011, 10:56:35 AM
We shouldn't work on the basis that all of Creation revolves around Harry. Even though it does (this is the Dresdenverse, after all).
All creation does revolve around Harry. But at that point in time most players did not now yet so it could not influence their decisions.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Origins of the Three Eye drug. (Changes spoiler)
« on: July 01, 2011, 09:40:59 AM »
Quote from: Sh33p on June 30, 2011, 05:30:14 PM
I like to think the Sells version of the curse was inspired by the White Court. Papa Raith just switched over to the Red Court version for the satisfaction of shanking Thomas to death.
It was like the Red Court curse so why not just blame the red court?
Or their known associates. The wizzards who called outsiders?

In Blood Rites pappa Raith employed a totally different technique. One that he could have learned Sells as well.
But at that point in time the red court was far more aggressive as the white (because of Maggies curse).

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Origins of the Three Eye drug. (Changes spoiler)
« on: June 29, 2011, 10:09:34 AM »
Quote from: sociotard on June 29, 2011, 03:06:22 AM
yeah, one running speculation is that
*Person who gave Victor the Three Eye recipe to attack Marcone
*Person who gave hexenwulf belts to the FBI to attack Marcone
*Person who got Denarians to attack Marcone
are the same person. It makes me wonder if Marcone is even more important in the BAT than Harry is. 
The red court wanted to expand in the chicago criminal underground so it makes sense to get rid of competition. That is marcone. Harry was not yet that important 

The red court got help from wizzards (or the wizzards used them). I think they did not want to confront Harry because they hoped he would turn warlock and become a potential ally.

The denarians are not in this list because they captured marcone to get to Harry to get the Archive.
which lists them in order of importance. It tells something about the rise of Harry.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Harry's Power Ups (Changes Spoilers)
« on: June 20, 2011, 06:55:58 PM »
I remember reading some word of jim. The empowering is not only for his friends.
His enemies gain power influenced by him as well. Bianca, Lara, Marcone

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Harry's Power Ups (Changes Spoilers)
« on: June 20, 2011, 02:48:38 PM »
Odin has been known to betray his heroes at the end so they could die in battle and go to Valhalla but I think it a little bit too early for that. And Gard was not seen near him at the end of changes.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: Harry's Power Ups (Changes Spoilers)
« on: June 17, 2011, 09:30:02 AM »
Dark Harry wanted the temptation because he saw it as a chance. That is what he said. More or less as it turned out to be.
Harry could have tried to grab litle Harry or push him away (unless he was too close to the coin and there was no time to think).

Harry had these discussions with himself.

Harry handled it well at the end but dark temptation played a role from the beginning.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: June 08, 2011, 12:59:30 PM »
It is one of the first laws of fantasy and role playing games:

That insanely powerfull being in the background will not even clean up his own mess let alone someone elses. You have to do that. Only helped by some obscure advise that makes sense after everything is over and maybe if you are very lucky he gives you a magic sword or something like that.

Odin can not help you more because that would be too easy. You can not prove your true heroism that way. On the bright side if you fail with enough drama you can party with him forever until the apocalypse/Ragnarok. You see it is a win win situation.

Oh there wil always be some talk about Balance, Fate, Free will and so on and that he already has given you all you needed (more help will lead to the too easy argument) but the real reason? probably he is busy. Preparing for the BAT.

Not so nice for all those heros who were just recently recruited. Only a few years to party before the real work starts.

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