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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: couple of quick points/thoughts
« on: June 17, 2020, 06:40:42 AM »
I was thinking warriorborn as genetically modified humans.  Sort of like Scalzi's troopers in Old Man's War. Faster and stronger than humans - but not supermen. Grimm speaks of fighting Sark, that he could not win in a gentlemanly manner - as if he thinks if he CHEATS, he COULD win. Like "If I hit Batman in the back of the head with a wrench before he knows I'm there, I can win!" while if it is Superman... better be a Kryptonite wrench.  One difference - the engineering left Scalzi's troops sterile. Have to assume Warriorborn can reproduce, as there is a mention one COULD be an heir to a House.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: A thought about Warriorborn
« on: June 17, 2020, 06:10:13 AM »
Well, Tom Clancy titles a book with a fictional war between Russia and China as The Bear and the Dragon. So bears and dragons. Tigers from India?   If the horse was not apparently thought of as from fables, we might have had centaurs... and are we really sure warriorborn is a lion? Might be a panther.. warriorborn tend to be lean, art least the ones we have seen, not as massive as a lion or tiger.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Power Creep
« on: June 17, 2020, 05:55:42 AM »
He does see Luccio do it in Dead Beat and internal monologues about how there's a big difference between him and her. He does get closer to that level of precision with his blasting rod, where she didn't appear to use a focus, but Harry was already getting more focus and control of his fuego spell. I wouldn't say he learned it from Luccio. I'd just say Luccio is a bench mark for what a wizard can accomplish after a lifetime as a combat specialist.

Ok, so maybe he is inspired by her. He gets the idea that a waterjet can cut better than a fire hose.  Though I would not rule out her giving him a tip or two, like a coach giving a pitcher a tip on his grip for a split finger fastball. Still requires work on his side. 


I don't think escalation of power is necessarily inevitable in serial fiction broadly or even serial fantasy fiction specifically. I do think it's almost necessarily inherent in the framing of the idea of the Dresden Files as Jim has talked about how he broadly conceived the idea. He's said things like it's about the young hot heads who haven't earned respect yet, he wanted a wizard who threw fireballs (I'm assuming that's a direct DnD reference), etc.

Yes, Jim is obviously a gamer. two parts stand out - where gaming with the Alphas, Harry says they stand at a certain distance, and the fireball died out right in front of them, and Harry disapproved of the exactness. In early AD&D, a fireball was a 20' radius sphere - launched carelessly into a small room with heavy stone walls, the blast could be funneled out right over the casters. I think Harry would prefer having to make sure the group ensure they were not hoist by their own petard.  Jim likes fire having to follow physical laws, he spoke to Murphy about the neat hole the Hellfire burned, saying the control might be more difficult  than evoking the fire. 

     the second is where Harry tells Susan in the Erlking's lair they are facing goblins, and she says "Shouldn't you be able to take about a million of them?' or something to that effect.  In early AD&D, at least,  when fighting very weak foes (less than 1 HD) a fighter got as many attacks as he had levels. So for something like a goblin, a good fighter will be chopping them down like wheat. Harry replies they are tougher than their reputation. In AD&D orcs beat goblins, and hobgoblins beat orcs. Butcher's goblins are tougher than Gygax's. 



One thing I like about how Jim handles power escalation, is that Harry, who was always way more powerful than "tiny fairies," to quote Bob, is still vulnerable to them after getting so much more powerful. And it's really enjoyable because it's not like Jim is just nerfing Harry to make them still a threat. Tiny fairies killed Aurora in book 4. Harry wouldn't have to worry much about a pixie, but a swarm is another matter entirely.

The old "Pack of wolves beats a grizzly".


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DF Spoilers / Re: Power Creep
« on: June 17, 2020, 03:43:05 AM »
To be fair I think the term "Power Creep" is usually taken to mean how characters slowly become to powerfull for the obstacles they are facing. Like in DnD at lvl 5 the world is full of deadly threats, but at lvl 15 a good party can really steamroll a lot of things.

He is growing in power, but so are his enemies. Much like a D&D game where you fight orcs, then ogres, then that fire giant who would easily crush orcs and ogres. He used to watch over a small part of Chicago, then he was  regional commander in the Wardens, now Winter Knight and next.....

The power creep is Little League, then High School, the minor leagues, and then the bigs.... remember when there was a game named baseball?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Elaine
« on: June 17, 2020, 03:16:28 AM »
hmmm.. OK IIRC Harry HAD made ice before his knighthood by drawing energy out of water. Think he made an ice bridge once and a slippery spot for a fetch to fall on

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Cinder Spires Books / Re: Various crystals
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:40:16 AM »
They do say that the new lift crystal will let them use power other places, firing until the barrels melted (p. 322) - maybe gauntlets have small limited capacity crystals. And since the ship crystals do not always have to emit power - why would the lumens?   

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DF Spoilers / Re: Power Creep
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:22:41 AM »
Power creep is inevitable - look how they talk of wizards - the Senior Council is the oldest AND MOST POWERFUL. Both criteria go together.

 A bonfire has more energy than a cutting torch. But Harry learns (from Luccio?) how to FOCUS his fire into a laser like beam.  More effective. More efficient.

Cowl talks of being disappointed Harry is not ready for the heavyweight division - as in you are expected to move up in time. Rashid talks about Harry being the most powerful OF HIS GENERATION - as in other generations may be more powerful.

BTW, for Cinder Spires readers.. recall this - pb p 529
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so Jim uses the same concept there

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nicodemus theory spoilers, spoilers , spoilers
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:01:41 AM »
I don't know .. he retreats.... but he takes out Shiro. Shiro is not coming back,  Nic is.

The good guys prune the organizational tree, getting rid of rotten Namshiel. And Michael, who killed a dragon, is retired (when he doesn't borrow Uriel's jet - which left Uriel in danger, even if he was not hurt)

He HAS the Grail... is it possible that was the main quest? If he picked up multiple items,  his crew revolts and all take some.. how do they know which was the ONE that Nic really wanted? 

Are his losses transitory and his gains lasting?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Elaine
« on: June 16, 2020, 04:46:33 AM »
Well, in Dead Beat (pb, P.185) when Kumori brings back Marcone's man .. ice forms on the sidewalk. So I was thinking she may be Winter Lady Molly - or does Elaine take over that role too?

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