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DF Spoilers / Re: The Night of Bad Dreams
« on: May 05, 2023, 07:26:36 AM »
Well I am satisfied with the explanation for both Harry's amnesia and the bad dreams that an explosion of REALLY bad magic swept over the earth (and the nearer NeverNever) and probed who to blast out of existence. Babies (and their mothers) felt the probing and the potential impact scared the bejeezus out of them. Harry was at ground zero and the blast wrecked his mind.

But eh, if it proves portentous I'll be happy enough ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Why is only one/2 swords active
« on: May 05, 2023, 07:14:11 AM »
Quote from: Con on May 01, 2023, 03:56:45 AM
WOJ on this:
How…how long will they have to wait to find out who will wield the Swords?
We’ll probably get the new wielder of Fidelacchius in Book 14 or 15. Um, Amoracchius is gonna, uh…(Jim chuckles evilly), that’s gonna be apocalypse time by the time we get [unintelligible].  Amoracchius is not one of those Swords that really rampages around the world very often, and when if does, you’ve heard about it, so..."

Almost makes you think Michael kinda could have dropped it after slaying the whole Dragon. That's what he did with it, Susan with Amorrachius helped shut down the Red Court, then Michael used it to release the Weapons of the Crucifixion, kinda makes 'saving the Archive' seem a bit weaksauce for all the years he had it after saving Charity. ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's Moving Island of Avalon
« on: April 16, 2023, 02:31:38 PM »
I do recall, I think in SG, that Harry remarked he wasn't really sure hewas still on the island when descending deep enough down - finding the depth implausible.

So rather than a moving island, 5 (or more) islands indeed connecting to the jail without being the same island would seem quite reasonable. Maybe the 5 classical continents (NAmerica, SAmerica, Europe, Asia, Africa).

And as disappearing islands go, there's Hy Brasil (off Ireland), Atlantis of course, Mu/Lemuria (in the Indian or Pacific Ocean, or both if they're two things), etcetera.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can one of the Fallen become infected by Nemesis? And if so...?
« on: April 16, 2023, 02:21:33 PM »
Of course there's an associated third option: the Fallen - being treacherous by nature - intending to abuse the Outsiders to achieve some goal, fully intending to stab their back if they should ever seem likely to succeed.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Power Ranking. Top 50.
« on: January 07, 2023, 06:25:09 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on January 06, 2023, 09:47:10 AM
Eb’s a combat specialist, Langtry a defensive specialist so it would be a dead heat, both would die from heatstroke simultaneously from their exertions in a face off.
Duelling also kills Langtry's greatest strength, organizing. His mindtalking AND quick thinking saved a whole bunch of wizards.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Thought About The Items From Hades
« on: July 09, 2022, 11:09:06 PM »
Quote from: Eguzky on July 07, 2022, 03:15:21 AM
Well, what if we changed 'absolve humanity of sin' to 'protect humanity from Outsiders'?
How about a combo, and the sin in question was calling up Outsiders?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« on: June 06, 2022, 09:30:05 PM »
Quote from: Regenbogen on June 06, 2022, 08:26:50 PM
I am getting the impression, this isn't about Harry or controlling Harry or putting Molly in her place or whatever.
I am starting to think, that this is about LARA!
Putting Harry in a place where HE can control Lara and not Mab or Lara controlling him.
See, there was the fact that Justine/known host for Nemesis was for a very long time very close to Lara and her Court. Close enough to manipulate and possibly take control.
There was Lord Raith presumably in a pact with at least one Outsider (summoned HHWB in Blood Rites).
Thomas has been influenced by Justinemesis to attack the swartalf king.
Can Mab trust Lara under these circumstances?

Who would be better suited to put in a place in which Lara is bound to him by a marriage contract and vows than the infamous Winter Knight/wizard/Starborn known defeater of mind controllers Harry Dresden?

Or it is about punishment. Lara did send Mab a calculated insult by imprisoning tiny faeries during White Night. Harry resolved the issue, but he did not punish Lara. And what better way to punish Lara than making her obligated to protect Harry and live through the general mayhem that is 'anywhere close to Harry Dresden'.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 26, 2022, 10:15:12 PM »
Quote from: Mira on May 26, 2022, 09:04:37 PM
No, they cannot pronounce Judgement on evildoers, that is the mistake Murphy made and got a Sword broken.  It is for the Almighty to judge, not them, they try to pursued the evil doer to seek redemption in the case of the Denarians... And they can kill in self defense or to save others, that gets a bit complicated, but they absolutely cannot judge.
Details. Sure, for the individual, but when the Almighty wants to use a handy tool, they get the necessary power-up.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 26, 2022, 06:31:05 PM »
Quote from: Mira on May 26, 2022, 06:07:45 PM
The Knights of the Cross are still ordinary vanilla humans.  Butters has trained hard, but he has a lot to learn, he is far from being a Jedi.  The Holy Knights are still subject to injury and death.. So yeah, with the help of the Holy Swords they step up, but they are limited.
Subject to injury and death, maybe. But also able to walk into a Dragon's lair and walk out with its hostages. Or to pronounce Judgement on whole Courts of evildoers.

In other words: they may technically be limited, but it really is convenient-level limited than power-level limited.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 21, 2022, 08:33:14 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on May 21, 2022, 10:54:20 AM
The main theme is Harry trying to stay human and connected with humanity, from Storm Front where he openly advertises what he is through all the pop culture references, his desperate attempts to reconnect with Susan, his infection by Lash, his refusal to become the Winter Knight, his suicide attempt, it’s a constant battle for Harry not to become a monster, not become a peril for humanity, to stay human despite all the pain and loss and the offers of power and temptation.

You can’t compromise this about Harry, nor can you compromise the secondary characters important to this, Murphy, Michael, Will and Georgia, Butters, Molly, even Thomas whose battle against his inner monster mirrors Harry’s own, Uriel and Odin in all of his forms, Father Forthill. Everyone Harry looks to for moral advice and to stay grounded.

I think you have a fair point, but you forgot the other half - Harry's counterpoints. Sells, who goes mad with power. Marcone, who is kinda evil, kinda trying to do alright, and likely up for a fall. Nicodemus, who is a grade-A evil guy but loves it (and thinks his is the better path than Harry's). And maybe Cowl, if he ever comes back. Now you could probably mix away Cowl into the other two, but you can't have Harry's story without Marcone's and Nic's.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 21, 2022, 09:05:16 AM »
Quote from: forumghost on May 20, 2022, 11:10:23 PM
Yeah. Like, there were a lot of changes I didn't like (especially in the Two Towers, you did my boi Faramir dirty PJ).
Eh. I think you identified what the point is.

Twisting secondary characters into pretzels (Faramir, Denethor)? Can be done even if sad. You still kinda lose a key point of the story (that even good men fall for supernatural evil, if they have no supernatural backing from the good guys) but the same story echoed in the MCs saves it.
Twisting main characters/anatagonists? Not good, because secondaries still echoing the theme get overshadowed.

But what IS the theme of the Dresden Files, really? What's that essential core you cannot compromise? Normal human overcoming odds doesn't really apply, so what is it?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Starborn - Generals used to control the Outsider Armies or weapons to fight them
« on: April 02, 2022, 10:26:02 AM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 01, 2022, 10:33:06 PM
As I have said the real Battle Ground was in Harry’s head and heart, not Chicago and Sanya and Butters won. Their presence does make me wonder, was Lucifer lurking in Rudy’s lax trigger finger?

Ethnui’s presence in the mortal world would have mean’t the White God placing his champions on the field of Battle, Sanya and Butters, but also Harry to enforce his will in relation to no threats to reality which might threaten humanity. But could they really have been there for Harry?

Lucifer can’t touch the Knights, but Harry? He can turn Harry, he already tried once. Make a Starborn a Destroyer.

Eh. It seems to me this was a battle where Heaven and Hell were on the same side. After all, Marcone gave Harry the blood he needed.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How did you find The Dresden Files?
« on: March 20, 2022, 07:46:24 PM »
I used to be an avid tvtropes reader, and, well, the Dresden files kept popping up in all my funky tropes (with nice explanations to boot) so I eventually decided to get a 3-first-books bundle.

The rest is history.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Fairy Godmothers
« on: February 06, 2022, 08:58:56 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on February 05, 2022, 11:55:16 PM
The Kringle Mantle can be transferred on Halloween. It makes Kringle immortal, and Odin must die at Ragnarok.

I think that Marcone already has a list of who has been naughty or nice, at least in Chicago, and is checking it twice.

Just imagine how conflicted Harry would be, the self described Santa fanboy. It would be absolute torture, so that is a route Jim will likely take.

Torturing Harry within the confines of the story seems more his gig. Not with any random thing we can come up with.

Marcone might fit the Kringle mantle, as leader of the Wild Hunt, but he does not fit the Santa mantle as the great gift-giver at this time. He'd have to change too.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Gamma Sword
« on: February 06, 2022, 08:53:17 PM »
TBH, I am not sure I buy that.

On/Off switch for goodie/baddie is easy. 'partial on' mode for yes demon/no human at the same time would have to be proven to exist at all.

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