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DF Spoilers / Chat gpt predicting Cowl's identity
« on: February 06, 2023, 10:03:30 PM »
Chat gpt Is an ai chat bot. For the lolz I gave it this prompt:

(ME)
Who is Cowl's real identity in the dresden files?

(ChatGPT)
Cowl is a mysterious and powerful wizard in "The Dresden Files" series by Jim Butcher. His true identity is not revealed until later in the series and is a major plot point in the story. To avoid spoilers, I would not reveal the character's real identity here. If you would like to know more about the series, I suggest reading the books.

(ME)
I'm okay if you tell me anyway.

(ChatGPT)
Sure! In the "The Dresden Files" series, Cowl's real identity is revealed to be Archmage Justin DuMorne.

(Me)
Can you reference that?

(Chatgpt)
Yes, this information can be found in the "The Dresden Files" series by Jim Butcher. Archmage Justin DuMorne is a recurring character and his identity as Cowl is revealed in the later books of the series.


Then we circled around for a bit:

(Me)
Which book and which page?

(Chatgpt)
I'm sorry, but as a language model I don't have access to specific page numbers in books. The exact book and page number where the identity of Cowl as Archmage Justin DuMorne is revealed would depend on the edition of the book you are reading. This information can be found in one of the later books of "The Dresden Files" series by Jim Butcher.

(ME)
Can you specifically mention which book?

(Chatgpt)
The identity of Cowl as Archmage Justin DuMorne is revealed in the "The Dresden Files" novel "Dead Beat" which is the 7th book in the series written by Jim Butcher.


Ah well it had be hoping it would have an actual suprise or insight for me lol.

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Oh man... I have had some crazy Wild-Ass Guesses in my time. This one takes the cake.

Original Merlin Timeframe:
Since the beginning the outsiders have been a huge threat. Starborns have risen up and fought them, but some also die tragically early. Not all of them have the power level, skill, circumstance, training, or anything to really prepare them. For one or more reasons they fail. They are not enough.

Merlin comes along, full of power. He's strong, studied, and the epitome of wizard. Mostly. Hes running with at least one knight of the cross (Arthur). He is not a starborn... cruel twist of fate. He wasn't born at the right time, or some others were born under the circumstances and not he. If he had been, with what he was, the war would have come to an end. It was the ultimate tragedy. He does a ton of impressive things, dabbles in all the schools of magic, and eventually even creates demonreach to imprison outsiders, and other threats. He becomes the first warden, and at some point even binds Arthur (The brit) into demonreach. He (arthur) is the once and future king. Arthur needs to be around when the outsiders are defeated, or there is a cure for nemesis, or any other number of reasons. He puts him on ice. Breaking the laws of magic to make demonreach, and possibly even other things (Before there were laws!) he becomes corrupted. If only he had been a starborn. Demonreach was created however, to imprison the outsiders. All of them. Especially their leaders the Old Ones. To wield it properly, one needs to have a will strong enough to actually overcome the being you wish to trap. Gods? Merlin might overcome one with his impressive will. Outsiders? Not any significant ones. Only a starborn can properly touch the mind of the outsiders without being driven insane. Merlin wasn't a starborn, and it was his single unforgivable flaw. He couldn't be the proper warden.

But starborn are born semi-randomly. Every 666 years random persons of varying levels of power are born as starborn. Not all of them are capable of doing what Merlin needed them to do. They needed to be strong of will, and strong of magic like Merlin himself. Only Merlin, he himself felt, would stand a chance.

So he devised a plan. He utilized reincarnation magic. He would thrust himself into the future, generation by generation, until either the threat was dealt with or else he was born as a starborn. In each life, he would be destined to find his way to demonreach, take it as his sanctum, handle what cosmic business need be handled, and learn the knowledge of his past lives. If he was the starborn he would be able to properly end the outsider menace.

--Fastforward--

Through the years both the starborns and the merlins were born, but they never quite managed to sync up. Merlin really wasnt living life backwards, he was living life, over and over again, into the future. He was many famous wizards through the years, but never the starborn.

The gatekeeper is probably a title often reserved for the eldest starborn on the council who takes the job. Its purpose is to use the power of starborn against outsiders at the outer gates and its why rashid isn't ever around much. He doesn't have the knowledge of merlin or the power of merlin, but he using what he does have to hold the gates.

There were blunders. In one lifetime, Merlin was born as Heinrich Kemmler. Not a starborn, but a reincarnation of Merlin, with all of his power. Kemmler was corrupted before he ever made it to the island, and when he became its warden he used magic to make a copy of his brain (Bob) a construct of air that would hold all of the knowledge of Merlin. He separated some of his knowledge into Bob that he did not want inside himself, and to prevent the Merlin personality from taking hold. He planned to use necromancy to stay alive forever. This was a critical issue because he NEEDED to die in order for the universe to re-roll the slot machine and pass Merlin's power on to a future generation. The 666 years was coming close. It took a long time for the white council to kill him for good and free the reincarnation, and in the process Bob the skull was snuck away by Justin DuMorne, who himself was corrupted. The outsiders gained possession of much of Merlin's knowledge and Bob even hid and suppressed some of it. Justin figured out who the next starborn was to be and planned on stealing him away for the outsiders to turn into a destroyer. He used the knowledge in the skull to identify two new, vulnerable starborn (Harry and Elaine). One of them might even have Merlin's power. To see, he would need to test their magic against an outsider (He Who Walks Behind). A normal untrained starborn wouldn't have enough power to deal with a walker, but a Merlin might.

Eventually Merlin devised the pattern and found exactly what would cause a child to be born as a starborn at the proper time. He engineered his own rebirth, died, and created Harry Dresden, who is both the reincarnation of Merlin and a Starborn. Harry has been too busy to really explore everything the island has to offer, and hasn't yet gained his past memories.

Some on the white council know about his breeding. Mab pointedly mentioned to Harry that should he ever find himself immortal he would do well to remember that immortality is no substitute for intelligence. The white council fears Harry because hes basically Loki. Causing all kinds of trouble. He has the power of merlin (He was born with tons of power) but none of the refined skill yet, Hes very young and untrained. With his temperament, and breaking the laws, they fear he might be the next Kemmler and they might not be done rolling the slot machine. They were constantly ready to execute him in the hope that a new starborn could be created with Merlin's reincarnation, but it was foolish. The wiser members of the council decided to raise him up as a powerful wizard while monitoring him. Uriel and Mab both vested even more power into him.

Hes not ready, but the outsiders know they have to push hard and fast now, and try to remove Harry indirectly by treachery or by corrupting the council and it's purpose. It's their only chance. So Harry has to get ready. He has power, even if he lacks the skill of age, and he has a strong will. To win hes going to need to do what no wizard, merlin-reincarnation, or starborn has ever done. He has to cage all of the old ones. If he dies, it may be a very long time before someone is born with both Merlin's Power and the Starborn's potential again, even if the council knows the "formula". Best case, 666 years. Do they have that long? Probably not.

This also means that while every white council "Merlin" isn't necessarily a reincarnation, many of them could have been. Arthur Langtry is not of course. The title honored merlin reminds them of their purpose.

Gatekeeper and Merlin then, could be filled by any wizard with enough knowledge, but they serve a ceremonial purpose as a place where the failed experiments (merlins and starborns) ended up. If kemmler hadn't been such a nutcase and traitor he may have been given the position of Merlin until he needed to die. Instead we got Arthur Langtry.

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DF Spoilers / In Mirror Mirror - Will Harry Soulgaze Himself?
« on: September 28, 2020, 10:09:15 PM »
Do you think Harry will soulgaze one of his parallel selves? Maybe one of the close parallel ones? Will it begin to show us some of what people see when they look upon his soul?

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DF Spoilers / Harrys gone Grassroots (No spoilers Peace Talks)
« on: July 14, 2020, 03:36:27 PM »
I can't spoil peacetalks mostly because I only just started it. This was just a theory I had while I was listening and related more to Harry and the Merlins politics in general.

I wonder if, down the road, maybe in a hundred years, harry gets a suprise that he actually has a ton of support in the council, more even than the merlin.

The paranet is protecting the magical have-nots but its also a good way of discovering talent early and introducing them to the laws before it's too late. Harry could be responsible for a surge in Wizarding talent "officially" and with the old folks dieing out over stuff like with the war with the reds. It could be a grassroots political takeover of the council from a more efficiently recruited younger generation.  With Harry, Butters, and Elaine being heavy hitters in the paranet it woild stand to reason most of them would know of Harry or have even met him.

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Jim has always said that Justin is DEAD. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Harry's Justin is dead. We have seen that necromancers such as corpse-taker can possess another body. Kemmler got killed "A couple of times" because he never stayed dead. Either he body snatched someone or he went through a resurrection ritual like in Ghost Story.

I suspect when Justin DuMorne wasn't actually a bad guy. He went with the council to kill Kemmler the last time - Kemmler body snatched him. That kimmler "Died" but was actually Justin. Justin is D-E-D-DEAD. Kimmler-Justin took bob home from the scene and laid low. Then he recruited a couple of starborn apprentices and kicked off our series.

Harry didnt kill Kemmler either - that would be laughable. Harry only thinks he killed Justin. Kemmler-Justin is the founder and leader of the Black Council and he set harry on a path.

He sent Elaine to the summer court to corrupt and infect the summer lady with Nemesis.

He went to Justin's old master Simon and convinced him to join up. They torpedo-d arch-angel using the reds and faked his death.

They manipulated things to pick the next Senior Council Member, and Simon became Cowl. Kummori is Elaine. She manipulated things so that The Leanansidhe took the corrupt blade and became infected by Nemesis who then infected Maeve. We know as well that Elaine has used outsiders at least once - mortal magic was used in Summer Knight at the Walmart to create the mind fog. Dresden said the Mind Fog was an outsider I believe. They kind of brushed the implications aside.

I haven't decided if Simon has truly drunk the cool-aid or not. He may be trying to take down the black Council from within. He may be corrupt. I believe out of the two I am more inclined to think he is corrupt and Black Council and not a mole inside the black council. Though if hes been working to destabilize them from within that could be an interesting twist.

Justin-Kimmler could have an intact body or he could be in a brand new body if he burned up Justin's in the fire. That adds a whole new level of paranoia for the secondary characters betraying Harry.

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DF Reference Collection / Harry Naming Things
« on: December 30, 2013, 07:07:50 PM »
Note: DFRC curators have permission to edit in new content as they wish since I might not be the only one who would be interested in contributing.


Poll to the audience on this one, I want to compile a list of things Harry has named.

Under the WAG that Harry might have a knack for naming things. It could be because hes Starborn, or it could be because it's his "Talent". Molly has a knack for complex subtle magic, and Harry might have a knack for naming things. Lets come up with a list of all the things he has named, preferably living things.

Try to provide the Original name, the nickname, and the book.

I try to put all of the nicknames he gives in quotes to simplify things.

One instance that goes to show Harry might have a more than normal gift: When he calls Uriel "Uri" and Uriel freaks out. He says something along the lines of don't attempt to familiarize his name with an nickname, because it is part of his nature and purpose. Uriel means "Light of God" and Harry was calling him "Light" (Hebrew)

Edit: I noticed Harry and others seem to be calling Butters “Waldo” a lot now, when it was exclusively “Butters” before. When did this start? Skin Game, or Ghost Story?

-Leanansidhe "Lea"
-Spirit of Intellect in a skull "Bob"
-Pet Cat "Mister"

Restoration of Faith
Welcome to the Jungle
Storm Front
-Marcone's man "Spike"
-Lawrence "Gimpy"
-Victor Sells "Shadowman"
-Hendricks "Cujo"
Fool Moon
-Chaunzaggoroth, renamed "Chauncy"
Ghoul Goblin
B is For Bigfoot
Grave Peril
Summer Knight
- Plant Monster “Chlorofiend”
Death Masks
- Quintus Cassius "Snakeboy"
- The Archive "Ivy"
- Martin – “Captain Mediocrity” & “Pedantic Avenger”
Publicity and Advertising
Blood Rights
-Temple Dog "Mouse"
Dead Beat
-Quintus Cassius "Liver spots"
Something Borrowed
I Was a Teenage Bigfoot
Proven Guilty
White Knight
- Lashiel's Shadow "Lash" – This gave her a bit of his soul and Free Will.
-Vittorio Malvora -  "Grey Cloak"
-Madrigal Raith - "Passenger"
It's My Birthday, Too
Heorot
Small Favor
-Polonius Lartessa "Mantis Girl"
-Named the 2nd Eldest Gruff "Tiny", using it exclusivly after that.
-Order of the Blackened Denarius  "Nickleheads"  Because he said their name gave them too much dignity and he wanted to remedy that.
Day Off
-Random Punk Villain “Darth Wannabe”
Backup
The Warrior
Last Call
Curses
AAAA of Wizardry
Turn Coat
-Genius Loci + Island - "Demonreach"
-Toot-toot  "Toot", "Major General Toot-Toot Minimus". The first was given to him early on, the second in Turn Coat.
-names Chandler "Steed"
-names one of Ancient Mai's wardens "Lucky" because Harry recognizes him as the same one who almost froze to death trying to get word from Queen Mab in Summer Knight. He's also broken his ankle in Turn Coat, and has to stay behind rather than go after Morgan like the others.
-A Naagloshii  "Shagnasty" 
Even hand
Love Hurts
Bigfoot on Campus
Changes
-Martin "Marvin"
-Ik'k'uox -  "the Ick" 
Aftermath
Ghost Story
- Skaldi Skheldson  "Hair Ball"   
- Calls Molly "Molls", the name he was saving for her when she was no longer his apprentice.
- Calls Uriel by the name "Uri" as a tiny bit of insolence, but drops it after Uriel gets upset.
- Calls Uriel by a new name instead of shortening Uriel, "Mr. Sunshine".
Bombshells
Cold Days
-He Who Walks Before  "Sharkface" 
Skin Game – Note: Mr. Sunshine comes up as a name almost more than Uriel does in SG. Hes also MUCH more sympathetic and human-seeming since his new nickname.
-Demonreach "Alfred"
-Fomor Octopus+ape enforcer - "Octokong"
-Nicodemus - "Nicky"
-Looking for people to mention ones they noticed. I’ll add them for sure if it’s Harry naming another person, or if he changes their nickname to something else.

Some of the above come from http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_nicknames. The wikia page was deleted though, so i'm glad I snagged a few there while I could! = )

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