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DF Books / Re: new tv series in development
« on: October 29, 2018, 07:29:30 PM »
In that case, I found it, but only as a screenshot I was sent, and I can't post that here.  Effectively a post from Jim saying that since it is his birthday yes, they are doing a show, details as they come.  Trying to find a link.

Edit: Found it, but it was a link to a facebook post, and after digging myself not sure the page is legit.  So not actually confirmed, especially in light of the tweet, which I do no is a legit account.

Edit 2: After more digging, looks like the facebook footprint in questions is all mostly years old, and either not real, or at least defunct.  So basically ignore everything I said in this thread.

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DF Books / Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
« on: October 27, 2018, 12:40:46 AM »
I like all three of those Kip.

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DF Books / Re: new tv series in development
« on: October 27, 2018, 12:39:44 AM »
I think this is the thing Butcher tweeted about, saying don't believe everything you see on the internet.  I guess we'll see if anything else develops.

At least what I saw was directly from Jim, stating that becasue it was his birthday he was announcing that yes, they are doing a show.  I'll try to find the specific link.

Edit: Nvm, I see now Gryff's comment is a little out of date, confirmation link already posted.

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DF Books / Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
« on: August 14, 2018, 01:17:41 AM »
I was more of a TNG than a DS9.
I was the opposite.

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DF Books / Re: Audio books
« on: February 05, 2018, 01:10:56 PM »
I can't say for sure plans going forward, but Skin Game and Cold Days were same day releases.

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DF Card Game / Re: Card Discussion
« on: July 28, 2017, 12:44:34 PM »
I mostly play solo, so it isn't an issue, but the few times I played 2 person games wit hmy brother we absolutely did that.

In general, whether I like the added tension and difficulty from it regardless of other concerns, but whether or not it is actually important for your games really depends on the personalities of those involved.  It was intended to, and I feel was successful at, preventing the quarterback scenario common in cooperative games where one player wit ha dominant personality tries to control everyone elses turns.  If that isn't a problem for your players, or if it is the case but you don't mind it, feel free to ignore it.

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DF Books / Re: Which side would a djinn be affiliated with?
« on: July 17, 2017, 12:34:45 PM »
I'm pretty sure none of the above, pretty sure Djinn aren't Faeries.  Remember, Faerie is only the portion of the Nevernever closest to the mortal world, there's a lot more in there.

Also, welcome to the boards

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DF Books / Re: Question about the first law
« on: July 07, 2017, 12:15:46 AM »
I think the idea that is clogging this conversation is the debate between whether morality in the DV is simply a consequence of logic or not. It seems to me that the opposite opinion implies that good and evil in the Dresdenverse are like weather events. However I think these definitions are incompatible. Ethics is supposed to describe how a being is supposed to act. If it is a force like gravity, then defining it as Good or Evil would render the entire definition pointless.

Until you realize that defining Good and Evil, morality, ethics, etc. in such a manner is an incredibly common trope in fantasy.  One need look no farther than Moorecock or Anderson's view of Law and Chaos (and all the things derived from it, including but not limited to Alignment in D&D and the Shards in Sanderson's Cosmere works) to see how this works.  Just replace Law with Good and Chaos with Evil, and you'll get a template for how such things exist metaphysically apart from human reason in the DV.  The real thing clogging the discussion is people getting hung up on the terms Good and Evil and insisting they must adhere completely to various philosophical arguments (that is insisting that they are derived entirely from logic) as opposed to realizing that in the DV at least, that is not the case, and as Quantus stated and as confirmed by WoJ, they do exist as objective metaphysical forces related to but ultimately distinct from mere human ethics.

If you think that is illogical or unbelieveable, then sorry, but the entire Dresdenverse is illogical and unbelievable then.

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DF Books / Re: Question about the first law
« on: June 30, 2017, 05:27:22 PM »
Good point Quantus.  I suppose I should rephrase my previous post to state that is my interpretation of how the morality of it works based on the info I have available, but since that information is incomplete at this point in the series it is not necessarily correct.

I will say the part about the White Council's Laws of Magic, as divorced from the underlying metaphysical laws that informed them, being more about controlling power than Good or evil still stands though.

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DF Books / Re: Question about the first law
« on: June 30, 2017, 01:10:05 PM »
Personally I have always just disregarded the first law, seeing it as kind of stupid. There is even a WOJ if I recall basically stating that not all the magical laws actually make sense ethically. I believe law one is mentioned.

The law always seems stupid to me in general. Magic is just a tool like any other. If I can kill with non-magical instruments, why should magic make a difference. I know the WC justification is that Magic used to kill somehow corrupts the end user, but this would seem to be self-evidently preposterous. For starters, even if there were true in this manner, it would render the use of magic indirectly unjust as well in some circumstances. If I make a magical sword specifically to kill my enemies, I have still invested my magic in a death implement.

But even aside from that, its philosophically nonsense. As I understand it, they dont like it because it has some kind of negative affect on its user because the user had to invest their "self" in the killing in order to produce the magic. If this is the case, then only killing for unjust malicious intent would have said affect. If the wizard killed justly, then any adverse affect should be essentially nil since the justification of the killing would be a reflection of the "self" applied to the magic. Additionally, this law seems to imply that this presumed negative affect would affect the person free will. If a person who killed justly is still negatively affected, it should still not matter so long as they can theoretically exercise choice. Not to mention that you could equally stupidly apply this logic to non-magical means of killing. And if this were true, the whole WC and Dresden would have to step down due to "killing stress" or some nonsense.

Two Counters to this.  First, at least as I see it, one of the themes of TDF is that actions have consequences, and those consequences are often entirely unrelated to the intent behind the action.  Put another way, ethics and morality in the Dresdenverse seem to be closer to Deontological systems than Utilitarian ones.  So, while the act of killing may at times be a necessary bad act, within the context of of this universe it is still an inherently bad act, and so it adversely effects the user.  And it isn't a bad thing becasue it adversely affects the person who does it, it adversely affects the user becasue it is a bad thing.  As for why this doesn't affect apply to non-magical killing, well, that's becasue magic.  It takes an effect that already results from killing (look at the kind of PTSD suffered by soldiers/police/etc., even those involved in ultimately justifiable or at least necessary violence) and cranks it up to 11 becasue the supernatural nature of the event gives that trauma a direct line to your soul.  Same general type, just massively increased scale.

Secondly, and I'll point you to what Luccio said in Turn Coat.  Basically, the White Council and it's Laws aren't actually about right/wrong, good/evil, or morality.  So, even if your argument did apply (which I don't think it does, at least not in context of the Dresdenverse), it doesn't change the fact that killing with magic is way, way easier than killing without it.  sure, when you look at things like Nukes or chemical weapons there are mundane ways of killing on a similar scale, but the are not generally the sort of thing an individual would have access to.  On the other hand, think about the amount of death someone like The Merlin, Ebeneener, Morgan, or even Harry could do if they went off the deep end and just started killing people.  So, the White Council takes a hardline at restraining that particular use of power, above and beyond the morality of the situation.  This also means that mundane killing, completely apart from morality, is simply not their department.

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DF Card Game / Campaign Game Characters (minor spoilers)
« on: June 24, 2017, 08:12:47 PM »
So, my copy of this arrived to day, just waiting to get off of work and get home to try it out.  I thought it might be kind of cool to put together a list of playable characters for each book when stringing it together as a campaign game.  This is what I came up with so far, what do you guys think?  Spoiler tag probably not necessary, but included just in case.

(click to show/hide)

What do you guys think?

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Cinder Spires Books / Re: So just what the heck is a Habble?
« on: January 11, 2016, 03:38:24 PM »
Yeah, they actually made a joke about the original meaning of batman, the one being used in TAW, in Cold Days, when Cat Sith was assigned as Harry's batman.

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Cinder Spires Books / Re: Albion
« on: December 15, 2015, 02:47:55 PM »
Not to put words in their mouth, but given the  ;) emoticon, I'm guessing Queen Mabb realizes that and meant her comment as a joke.

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Cinder Spires Books / Re: Dimensions - stupid math
« on: November 17, 2015, 01:34:16 PM »
Actually, I forget the page, but I'm pretty sure the book said the spire itself is round, the Habbles are square shapes within those round walls.  Hence, I am inclined to agree with the giant stone marshmallow.

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Cinder Spires Books / Re: Cinder Spires Mass Market Paperback?
« on: October 21, 2015, 02:28:28 PM »
Yeah, if it follows the pattern of his other two series, and most books these days, it originally releases as HC only, but will release Paperbacks at some later point.

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