Oh noes, im a black court elder and im low on gas ?? what do i do?

(slurp, slurp)

ahhhh refreshing...

im not sure if the black court are 'flying bricks' or 'liches' or both, but either way, they are formidable.

Indeed. (prays to jim they dont all go the way of the reds)

Seeing as she's dead, I suspect that Lord Raith (or any other Raith) wouldn't be able to, er, induce lust to feed on her. And, good god man, that's an appalling mental image anyways.



My question is True Love protects against Raiths and other lust-based White Court Vampires. Would it protect against a Skavis or Malvora White Court Vampire?

...i was kind of thinking more of death through entrothy curse like that one blamp in BR. Im now drunk on brain bleach after picturing a Mavra/Lord Raith ship.

What Second Aristh said for your question.

From what i remember in Dracula it sounded like a turned persons soul was trapped until they were killed for good. Is this what happens in the Dresdenverse with the Black and Red courts?

Does the Alphas healing allow them to live longer?

How old is Mavra and will we learn about her back story? What is her relationship to Cowl?

Roughtly how many memeber does each vampire court currently have?

How did Cowl survive the Dark Hollow?

Is Luccios lessened power related to not being able to fully accept her new body?

What I meant was it was more like he's saying - Be very careful - dont get careless or drop your guard kind of thing.  At least that was the way I took it.

Im hoping we might see some more in Book 15.

See, my impression based on what we've seen so far is Cowl is stronger than Mavra.  His powers seem far vaster - he put up a much bigger fight the times we've seen him than Mavra did in the homeless shelter.  Yes, she got away, but my impression of Cowl is he wouldnt have run that quickly.  For instance, in WN, instead of retreating when Dresden was getting the upper hand, he called in the ghouls.  But this is just my impression.

Sorry I didnt explain that well - let me explain try again.  I agree with the op who said they see the actual BC members as a small tight-knit group who tend to use agents to accomplish their aims.  These agents probably know only what they need to and not the Big Picture - and may be total dupes [I have the feeling the Red King was egged on to prepare for war against the wizards but never really told the truth about the BC or their ultimate aims.].

The way I see Mavra [based on what Ive read so far] she is more another pawn/dupe/catspaw they can use as needed.  I think they tell her as much or as little as they need to in order to get her to act the way they want her to act.  IOW she is being manipulated by them.  But that doesnt mean she is ALWAYS  working for them, or has any idea of the big picture.  She's not in their confidence to any great extent.  And when they dont have a "job" for her, she's on her own.

I think in DB she was on her own and wanted the book for herself.  My point was if she was BC herself, she would have realized Cowl was getting the book for them and wouldnt have risked involving Dresden.

But like I said - Im not entirely sure about Mavra.  The only 2 I think are BC for sure are Cowl and Ferrofax.

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For me it seems more likely  given Mavras reputation that kincaid  warning harry that Mavra was bad news was more then just a be careful time. i take this from account that kincaid himself reports to be afraid of Mavra and, that she was consisdered "very dangerous" by the white council before she was known the be wizard level and that she got away of killing a friend of ebs in the venatori these are all people and organizations who make killing monsters there bussiness and unlike Cowl whos human i get the impression that Blampires are still getting special attention as part of an ongoing genocide against their kind. Point being she must be doing something right to have earned her rep.

for Cowl, he has gotten more screen time to demonstrate his power which can definatly create an impression but unless its stated that he can do thing that mavra cant its not really proof of superior raw power or technique. keep in mind Mavras retreat was in daylight under magical lockdown as harry acknowledged in BR if Mavra herslf cought them at night she'd take them apart. Also if Mavra had just set that up so she could get Blackmail there would not have been any point in staying around. By contrast Cowl hadnt gotten what he wanted in all those times harry confronts him and hes in the way. Just saying, one thing alot of the powerful and smart seem to have incommon is that they generally dont seek a fight unless theres a reason.

While your theory on Mavras standing in the BC is as possible as any untill we get more clues I think Mavra would have had to know  who was trying to get the book and wanted all of the necromancers laid low.

Just out of curiousity what makes you suspect Ferrorvax?

I like to imagine that the Black Court has a secret meeting place. On their wall is a Most Wanted poster of Harry wearing a Burger King crown and eating a whopper.

I'd pay good money for jim to write that in

While nothing has been mentioned yet, considering that the remainng Black Court are the strongest, swiftest, smartest etc i dont see why the remaining should not be enough to still qualify as a (weakend) small nation in the accords. Or pherhaps do what Marcone did as a group? Either way it makes sense that the black court would stay in the supernatural law for defensive purposes.

Even if they werent accord members the smart ones dont get cought and its in the best interests of survivors to kill any newbie that draws unwanted attention to the court.

The new vampires, well, they followed their Master's Orders.  That was about it.

Richard

To be fair i think two of the reasons for their lack independence can be A) just became another species which is probably a bit confusing at first B) their master the real drulinda threatened to rip up that one newb for asking a question and throw him into lake michigan.

Not saying they have as much of a mind left as a Master but it might not be unconceivable for a non-master to make some kind of choice for self gain. Just less likely.