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DF TV Series / Re: POLL: End Game Opinion of the Series
« on: June 01, 2010, 06:39:36 PM »
And don't let me drive you off. I was in a bad mood when I replied to you.  The humidity here was getting to me.

No worries. I've been around enough boards to know what it's like when people bring up the same thing over and over...and over.  :P
I also shoulda known better than to post like that without reading more first.  ::)
I was a little shocked at the response my question got. Kinda figured it was a mis-read.

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DF TV Series / Re: POLL: End Game Opinion of the Series
« on: June 01, 2010, 01:38:23 PM »
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If you bothered reading these forums these questions would have been answered about forty eight times by now.
 
Oh, I get that. I really do. In fact, I have read through these forums and found a lot of similar complaints and the fact of the matter is, no matter how many times someone tries to explain why certain changes were made, it doesn't change the fact that, with the exception of my Murphy complaint, the things that were changed were iconic parts of Dresden. It's kinda like saying Wolverine can be a guy with some knives, those claw thingies just don't work.


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Dresden is a blue collar wizard.  The idea was he would enchant whatever he could get a hold of.  Some people debated that a hockey stick is less conspicuous.   According to Jim Butcher the Hockey stick was supposed to have emotional significance for Harry but the show was canceled before they could get into that.  Apparently Harry's father used to take him to play hockey.
I'll give ya this one. Still a damned silly looking staff and maybe it coulda been more Wizard Staff and less Magical Gun. Also, it's not like a guy carrying a walking stick draws much attention in the real world, doubt he woulda been much more conspicuous in the Dresdenverse.

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That's not fair.  Butters physically of the show was exactly what was described in the books.  Or did you miss the short nerdish polka loving guy with issues bit that's all through the novels and show in regard to him?
Ok, ok, ok...maybe this was my own little hang up.  ::)

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That's a scrying crystal.  It's traditional occultist magick.   As in real folklore. They had magical practitioners and occultists on set to make sure the magick in the show was real and researched.  Every symbol on Bob's skull for example is real spirit binding symbols, mostly from the Key of Solomon (One of the oldest known Grimoires of the dark ages). If you pause your DVD on any scene in Harry's lab you can see dozens of artifacts used in real magical tradition.  The magick on the show was impressively researched.  To this day I can't find any fantasy show that even remotely made as big of an effort into it's occult research.  Remember, Nic Cage was executive producer.  He's very into the occult and he wanted accuracy in occult / New age / Hermetic tradition.  Harry has a tracking spell he uses in almost every novel, you realize.   And quartz crystals DO come up in the books.   Wow... Just Wow... The fact that a fan of the books actually complained about this AND how Butters looked goes beyond ... that just blue my mind.  As someone who has studied parapsychology the fact that THIS was something that bothered you, the extensive research into the occult, using rare and out of print real grimoires...  My headaches...   This was one of the aspects of the show they went all out for.

I can understand most of the questions but this one!??   Why was a WIZARD using a scrying crystal in a tracking spell!?!   To me that's like asking 'Why does he have a pentacle?!'
I'm not sure what this was all about, but my original question was about Harry working out of what appeared to be a Magic Store. I later learned it just looked like a store front and was his office/living space.

So, yea. I'm sorry for not perusing the forums a bit more and for beating the proverbial dead horse. In my defense, I had never had the chance to watch the show before just recently, so while everyone else's adoration/disdain had dimmed, mine was fresh. I've spent the last few days familiarizing myself with the board and, since I have absolutely zero problems with the novels, I doubt this'll be a repeat problem.





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DF TV Series / Re: POLL: End Game Opinion of the Series
« on: May 31, 2010, 12:08:36 AM »
So, I'm guessing this is no longer an issue, but I recently found TDF Season 1 on Netflix and was able to watch it in it's entirety. As a big fan of the books, all I can say is...really!?

From what I saw, there was absolutely nothing...well...Dresden about the TV series! Now, I'm not stupid. I know transitioning from written to visual medium can be dicey at best, but I was absolutely unthrilled with the series.
Call me shallow, but:

An Army Jeep?
No trenchcoat?
A hockey stick!?!?
Murphy a single mom?
Butters a college drop-out slacker? Ok, so that's just how he came off to me. I expected him to pull out a Mt Dew and a bag of Cheetos everytime he was on screen.
A magic store?

And while Paul Blackthorne has been lauded around here, for me, he was quite possibly the most un-Dresden actor they could've cast. I know everyone has a different "vision" of the characters of their favorite novels and I've always pictured Dresden in the novels as looking a bit like the author himself. Tall, lanky, a little "geeky". Blackthorne just seemed too....polished. And where was the ever present Dresden sarcasm?
I'm going to leave the "look" of the show alone as I'm sure there wasn't a huge budget and they did what they could. I'll also leave Bob alone as I get how a disembodied voice in a skull wouldn't translate well to a TV series. But, again, where was the sarcasm?

Suffice to say I was sorely dissapointed and if there's a Big Screen adaptation in the works, I hope it gets completely re-tooled.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone or hurt anyone's feelings, but, man! Really!?

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