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So, when Harry introduced Summer Fire to the Winter Wellspring… did all of Winter, including those forces at the Outer Gates, really march on Artis Tor to defend Winter?  If so… who was guarding the Gates?  Wouldn’t that have been a perfect time for the Outsiders to attack?

Discuss.
That would be kinda dumb, wouldn't it?  I would interpret it as all the forces in Winter, and wherever the Gates are lies outside Winter.

How would a demi god become apprenticed to a mortal?

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We saw how difficult it was to get Ethniu into the Well.  We saw how difficult it was for Harry to fight Shagnasty… how did the inmates on Demonreach get there?  Who put them there?  When did they get there?
Before you go down  this road consider what purpose it serves in the narrative. It obviously is meant to serve as a power source. Rashid had hinted at that. Otherwise there is no  reason for the place to exist.  It's too dangerous.

Also consider that Demonreach lied to Bob when he reveled what and who built it.  You  should know by now that Demonreach is concealing something.

Odin had something to do with it. Interesting maybe.  Does Rashid wear Odin's eye? Interesting question  2. Who were LTW and the River Shoulders so frightened of that they wouldn't tell Harry about Drakul and Starborn?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Does Marcone have Little Chicago?
« on: December 29, 2022, 07:01:52 PM »
Well, that's that then!
Jim wants it gone.
Damn, I clearly need to re-read BG.  This is like, the 3rd-4th reference someone made, that made me go "whaaa...?"

Can you go further into this element, since I clearly was Not Paying Attention In Class?
Odin's map in Battleground causes Harry to comment that somebody must be spending a lot of time in Chicago, referring, I surmise, to the effort it took to keep LC current. The map has a lot of the same functionality.
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“A tactical map,” I noted. “Of my town.” Vadderung glanced up at me with his one eye and then back down. “What of it?”

Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (p. 54). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Search on this.

In Small Favor when Mab shows Harry Marcone's kidnapping in a snow scene. Contrast Gard's reaction with the reaction of Cowl in White Knight when he senses Harry watching.  The passages could be twins, therefore I speculate that Mab has access to something very similar to LC, only better. Also remember the first use and how Harry sees himself when using LC.

YMMV

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DF Spoilers / Re: Does Marcone have Little Chicago?
« on: December 28, 2022, 05:44:53 PM »
There is a WOJ on this.  It's gone.  Water would have washed away the magic. In any case as of Battleground there is at least one and possibly 2 other versions in the books.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is a “Destroyer”?
« on: December 13, 2022, 09:59:01 PM »
As a character this has been ongoing since Proven Guilty. At one point in time Butcher has Murphy tell Harry the he would be better off learning how not to get in these messes rather than struggling with getting out of them.  So the press of time is an excuse not a reason.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is a “Destroyer”?
« on: December 13, 2022, 09:42:29 AM »
Quote from: author=Turn Coat
I stared at her for a minute. Then I said, in a very quiet voice, “I always know when I’m being tempted to do something very, very wrong. I start sentences with phrases like, ‘I would never, ever do this—but.’ Or ‘I know this is wrong but.’ It’s the but that tips you off.”
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I said, quietly. “And I feel like an utter bastard for asking this of you, grasshopper. But I don’t have anyone else to ask.”

Butcher, Jim. Ghost Story (The Dresden Files, Book 13) (p. 537). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is a “Destroyer”?
« on: December 12, 2022, 01:00:06 PM »
You don't ask your friends to lie for you.  You don't use other peoples children to do what you can't do  yourself. Most concisely in the case of the fictional character Harry Dresden you shut up an quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. Don't preach one thing and then do something else.  This is just what Butcher has Harry say about Eb when they  fall out in the early books.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is a “Destroyer”?
« on: December 09, 2022, 09:44:35 PM »
It could be a reference to Shiva or the Thor in Marvel.  It's at least in the realm of the possible that we seen glances of him at various times. In particular when the Curse in triggered in Changes and Harry looses two minutes. Also during his berserk rages such as when Murphy is killed and he uses lightning.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Child's not mortal
« on: December 09, 2022, 03:56:17 PM »
Chapter Eight about mid way through. It's how the Kindle version works.  But I won't bother in the future.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Child's not mortal
« on: December 09, 2022, 02:11:45 PM »
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His eyes were an unsettling color, somewhere between dark honey and poison ivy, and the sharp angularity of his nose made me think of a bird of prey.

Butcher, Jim. Ghost Story (The Dresden Files, Book 13) (p. 78). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

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DF Spoilers / Re: In defense of the WC
« on: November 27, 2022, 03:37:56 PM »
Morgan said Justin got to Harry before he did.  Either Harry or Justin could have been the target of the search.  Find one and find the other.

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DF Spoilers / Re: So Fitz is...
« on: November 24, 2022, 02:56:35 PM »
The books tell you how summoning got out to the general public. A plan by the White Council to weaken the process by having everyone trying to do it.(Maybe White Knight or possibly earlier, I forget) 

Harry would have learned his lessons from Bob about demons and summoning. Also Bock's Books.

In the end all roads lead to Nemesis in turns of bad things happening. He manipulates groups to achieve chaos.

MacFinn's circle could have been no older then Chicago unless it was in some way portable. That could mean the wizard who built it is still around and possibly corrupted by  Nemesis. You can infer this because MacFinn wouldn't have wanted to share knowledge of what he was. Since he wasn't immortal it had to be done by a modern Wizard.

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DF Spoilers / Re: In defense of the WC
« on: November 21, 2022, 06:18:10 PM »
Justin was being shielded, probably by Lea.  When Butcher rewrote canon for Morgan he explicitly says he couldn't find Harry by magical means which means he was looking.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Justin DuMorne
« on: November 09, 2022, 03:38:51 PM »
Quote from: Blood Rites
"The Council knew that you were the son of Margaret LeFay. They knew that she was one of the wizards who had turned the Council's own laws against it. She was guilty of violating the First Law, among others, and she had… unsavory associations with various entities of dubious reputation. The Wardens were under orders to arrest her on sight. She'd have been tried and executed in moments when she was brought before the Council."

"I was told she died in childbirth," I said.

"She did," Ebenezar confirmed. "I don't know why, but for some reason she turned away from her previous associates—including Justin DuMorne. After that, nowhere was safe for her. She ran from her former allies and from the Wardens for perhaps two years. And she ran from me. I had my orders regarding her as well."

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DF Spoilers / Re: Justin DuMorne
« on: November 04, 2022, 12:57:30 PM »
I guess I missed something. Did Chauncy actually comment on Margaret or just offer additional information? And Grey?

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Quote from: Fool Moon
Chauncy regarded me without expression or emotion. “Many in the underworld were . . . familiar with her, Harry Blackstone Dresden, though under a different name. Her coming was awaited with great anticipation, but the Dark Prince lost her, in the end.”

“What do you mean? What are you talking about?”

Chauncy’s eyes gleamed with avarice. “Didn’t you know about your mother’s past, Mr. Dresden?
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Grey’s eyes narrowed and changed back to mostly human brown again. He was silent for a moment, and then said, “You didn’t choose to be the son of Margaret LeFay. You didn’t choose the legacy she left you with her blood. And she was a piece of work, kid. I knew her.”

Butcher, Jim. Skin Game: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 439). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Do we have other relevant testimony/commentary/etc?
You have quite a bit if you choose to run it down. You can eliminate Rashid from your calculations given his age, it may have been that he ran with her in the time before she was what she became. Goodman Grey seems to have known her after that point.

She was able to arrange a dinner whose known diners where a Red Court Nobel, the White Court King, the Blackstaff and herself. She could get them to set down and discuss some type of scheme. Unless this is a throw away this is where Harry as Starborn came in to the conversation.

When Grey comments, consider what he is saying when he makes the comparison between his father and Margaret.

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