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DF Spoilers / Re: Jim Butcher at Dragon Con 2025
« on: September 09, 2025, 02:18:41 PM »
From what I read from various reports, I think Jim is just so much in the Dresden flow after Twelve Months, that he directly went into Mirror Mirror and did not do his usual "other series" book in-between.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: September 05, 2025, 11:53:06 AM »
Fitz and his disappearance after Ghost Story was definitely one of the flys in the ointment for my enjoyment of that book. The side story about him seemed such a pointless waste of pages, compared to the many other things Jim could have written about. If he turns out to be the new apprentice, that would change things a bit retrospectively.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy
« on: September 02, 2025, 01:43:36 PM »
Thank you for the quote, it still doesn't make Murphy a Valkyrie in the future.  It is a good way to describe a female warrior, especially when one doesn't know that much about Valkyrie, which Harry didn't at the time.  It also could describe an Einherjar, or one of Odin's warriors that were brought to Valhalla until the time when Odin needs them in the final battle.

I guess we'll see. :)

Actually making Murphy an Einherjar doesn't come out of nowhere.  After she left the police force, Murphy worked for Odin and trained extensively with the Einherjar.  As far as her being a devout Catholic, that has mainly been an assumption that we the readers have had, on the written page the evidence really isn't that clear that she was.  Catholic, yes, but devout when compared to say Michael?  Not so much, she might have been raised Catholic, but she can't be described as a practicing Catholic,  Murphy has never mentioned attending Mass or going to Confession. 

I'm pretty sure she was described as such in the books, but it's hard to track down such quotes, unless you come along them by chance. As I advance in the books towards the current one, before the release of Twelve Months, I'll try to find one.

Maybe the payback is letting her go to Valhalla?  A couple of things do quite compute here.  If Murphy was really a devout Catholic do you think she'd be overjoyed about drinking ale with the rest of the dead warriors in Valhalla instead of Heaven working with her father?  Yes, she did well in C I, so instead of putting her in purgatory she gets to go to Valhalla.  So a better fit since she trusts in her will and judgement and not the Almighty's will and judgement, not a punishment exactly, but not really a reward either if she was indeed a woman of faith..

I don't think Murphy deserves a punishment in the first place. We'll see how things develop in the coming books, because if Jim would have wanted to write her out completely, she'd be gone completely.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy
« on: September 01, 2025, 09:59:23 PM »
??!?

Why in the world would we ever have seen or heard of it before that moment?
It's an Odin thing, and Harry actually knows very little about Odin's specific rules & dealings.

We're regularly learning new stuff about the Dresdenverse... Harry's early magical education (by Justin) was abominable, and (later) Eb was trying to teach something more fundamental than reams of per-mythology Elder-Lore,  so Eb didn't add very much of this (outside of the White Council fundamentals, mostly amounting to "how interact with the Council and not get Damocles-chopped by Warden Snicker-snack").

Yeah, and therefore it came out of nowhere and somehow now needs to be accepted as absolutely ironclad canon? For me, the whole deal of making Murphy an Einherjar is suspect from the outset, since she was a devout catholic and that did not change by the time of her death. So a "yep, we took her and now you can't see her" from the norse faction seems just a tad sus to me.

What is the direct quote?

I'll extend the quote a bit to make it easier to find. But I posted it a few posts ago. :)

"You look pensive" Murphy said. We walked down an empty hospital corridor toward the Cook County Morgue. We'd have to go the long way around so that I could avoid any areas with important medical equipment. My leather duster whispered around my legs as I walked. My blasting rod thumped against my leg rhythmically, where I'd tied it to the inside of the duster. I'd traded in my slacks for blue jeans and my dress shoes for hiking boots.

Murphy didn't look like a monster-hunting Valkyrie.  She was five nothing, a hundred and nothing, and was built like an athlete, all springy muscle. Her blond hair hung down over her blue eyes, and it was cut close in back. She wore nicer clothes than usual - a maroon blouse with a grey pantsuit - and she had on more makeup than was her habit. She looked every inch the professional businesswoman.

That said, Murphy was a monster-hunting Valkyrie. She was the only person I'd ever heard of who killed one with a chain-saw. "

Sorry but that doesn't make sense, because if it a direct quote from Harry, it wouldn't begin as you wrote it.  Also killing one monster neither makes her a hunter of them, since it was attacking Harry at the time in the Lowes plant department and she happened to be there, and she surmised that a chain saw was the best way to kill a plant beast.

Well, I just quoted the section from the start of chapter five and Harry calls her a monster-hunting Valkyrie twice. ^^

Could be that they are, but that doesn't change that Odin is a god in his own right and has his own set of rules reguarding the warriors he has brought to Vallalha.

Yeah, but you'd think that God is a step above him and frown on that. Since it's metaphysical stuff of the souls kind, I think the whole hands-off approach Uriel normally takes would apply here. But we'll see.

Michael is different from Murphy, he has never broken the rules regarding the Swords or being a  Holy Knight.  Michael doesn't have that kind of arrogance, Murphy openly displayed it believing she knew and could apply human law to Nic rather than God's Law.

"God's Law" is also a bit indeterminate here. He had no problem smiting all the vampires, but every time Nic plays the "Yup, I'm totally giving up here, teehee" card, everybody wielding one of the swords needs to take some stupid pills? In any case, even if Murphy erred in this particular instance, that doesn't just invalidate what she did at Chitzen Itza and that she was used as a direct conduit to deliver a message. In my eyes, that means the G-man owes her one.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy
« on: September 01, 2025, 02:47:01 PM »
  Just checked my paperback copy of Death Masks, and that line isn't on page 55.  Lots of talk about demons and such, and it is a conversation with Murphy, but her being a monster hunting Valkyrie wasn't mentioned.  And yes, I remember killing the chloromonster with the chainsaw, bad assed to be sure, but that doesn't mean she will become a Valkyrie.

It's on page 55 of my softcover, I might have a different version than yours. Just check the chapter, I found it there this morning and it's a direct quote.

Jim makes up a lot of rules, that is why it is fiction.  The argument against what you are saying is there is no motive for Gard to make up that rule.  She has no reason to want to be mean to Harry, which telling him that sounds mean if it wasn't true.  She has been taking dead warriors to Valhalla for a very long time and should know the rules.  Actually it sounds more like she is trying to comfort Harry, telling him that Murphy has earned her rest. 

Might be my bias, but it sounded less genuine to me. Also, I enumerated my reasons why I think Uriel and Odin might be working together on this in my last posts.

Yes, she was a Holy Knight for one night, then she took matters into her own hands.  Since when does Heaven owe anyone anything?  Taking Murphy to Valhalla keeps her in the game, it's just you won't see her till the final BAT.

You might want to check on Michael in regards to heaven owing people stuff, like all the angels posted around his house to keep his family safe, even after he left active service. And I highly doubt it'll be until the BAT we see her again. Although it's not that far away anymore in terms of number of books, so you might well be right, too.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy
« on: August 31, 2025, 09:40:46 PM »
  I don't remember his ever saying that about her in the early books. He saw her as a cop.  He did see her with his wizard's sight and saw her as kind of an angel, but not as a Valkyrie. 

Death Masks, chapter five, page 55 of the softcover. "That said, Murphy was a monster-hunting Valkyrie. She was the only person I'd ever heard of who killed one with a chain-saw". So, yeah, book five. It all blurs together a bit when you read them sequentially.

Hey, if she knew for sure about Hendricks, that he'd be with her forever, and she would know because she hauls these warriors off to Valhalla,  she wouldn't be sad.   Also Gard wouldn't have a reason to lie about it, she says it's one of the rules.

Yeah, she says it's one of the rules. And I find that statement sus as hell, for reasons enunciated above. The rule sounds made up on the spot for me, because we never heard of anything of the like before in-universe.

I was surprised as well.  Murphy rejected being a Holy Knight after Changes, remember?  She felt she was a better judge than God, then she got a Holy Sword broken.  Not saying that was enough for her not to go to Heaven and work for her father, but that might be why she went to Valhalla instead.

She also used the holy sword at Chitzen Itza and was used directly by God as a vessel to deliver his verbal message. Heaven owes her a bit, IMO. So, I suspect shenanigans from both Uriel and Odin to keep her in the game.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy
« on: August 29, 2025, 07:56:18 PM »
Somehow I don't think it will be that simple.  If it is, I think it will amount to poor writing, if we do see Murphy again, it will either be in Mirrormirror or the final reel of the BAT. 

How would that be poor writing? Jim has set up Murphy to be kind of a living Valkyrie since about book two, where it was first mentioned that Harry perceived her as such. I just re-read the early books a few weeks ago (in preparation for Twelve Months) and was quite surprised to find that reference in there so early.

Can she?  If she could or knew that, why was she grieving so hard for him?  Because if what you say is true, then Hendricks would now be immortal like her, they could be lovers forever.

He still just died, probably before her eyes, so grief would be a natural reaction. Or maybe she sensed it beforehand (like she did with Harry, before Marcone intervened many books ago) and felt overcome when it finally happened.

Or maybe Santa Claus is running a big con on Harry and she was faking it under his orders. I am, in retrospect, actually kinda surprised how things went down, with Murphy being a devout catholic. One would think Uriel would have something to say to Odin about taking someone who wielded one of the three swords as an Einherjar. Unless they both want Murphy to power up in preparation for what is coming down the line. Just saying.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy
« on: August 28, 2025, 09:29:52 PM »
  I doubt that Gard made it up, you forget that she also lost her lover in the battle for Chicago.  She understands and accepts the rule, if she could get her lover back in any form, I think she would.   If we do see Murphy again I think it will be in the alternate universe of Mirrormirror.  I also think because of this, Harry will also come to understand the why of the rule and accept it.

Gard is a Valkyrie. She can go visit Hendricks any time she likes in the golden hall of Valhalla.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy
« on: August 28, 2025, 07:22:56 AM »
"The rules" being something which distinctly sounded made up on the spot by Gard to me. We never heard of this rule before Gard mentioned it and how firm it is, is a thing of complete speculation.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months (blurb'ed & priced on Amazon)
« on: May 22, 2025, 02:30:34 PM »
Yeah, just found out through an interview Jim did with the NYT that the book is coming out in January. Still a while away, but not incredibly long. Damn, it's really been 5 years since Battle Ground...

Anyway, if someone wants to check out the interview, here's a link to the reddit thread I found it, where it gives a gift link so you can read it for free:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/1kqoib5/interview_with_jim_butcher_in_nyt/

I didn't know how close we were to never getting a book again... :(

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DF Spoilers / Re: How many times have you read the Dresden Files?
« on: April 10, 2025, 09:06:01 AM »
Four or five times. Probably going for number six when Twelve Months has a firm release date and said date comes closer.

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DF Spoilers / Re: James Butcher
« on: March 10, 2025, 01:39:02 PM »
I think it always has been the way that Jim writes one Dresden book and then one in his other series, and so on. It's only that due to all the personal stuff he was going through, he has slowed down in the last decade.

I think it's a bit soon to say that he'd want to turn the Dresden Files over to James. First off, I think James wants to do his own thing and secondly, Jim is 53 years old and has a lot of time going before he gets his wish and dies at his keyboard one day. :p Unless he goes all GRRM for the BAT, I think things will be fine.

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DF Spoilers / Re: James Butcher
« on: March 07, 2025, 01:50:06 PM »
I think if we get into this, we'd be squabbling over the definition of the term "pathetic". From my definition of what it means to be "a bit pathetic", that's okay and also desirable, because it makes the character relatable. Harry being almost OCD-like chivalrous to women (even if they don't want it), not being able to pay his rent on time as a permanent state of his life up until the point of the first three books and being looked down by "real cops" for what they perceive to be a con man is all what I would personally view as being "a little pathetic". That is off-set a LOT by his other personality traits (loyalty, bravery, sense of humor, deductive power), his powers as a wizard and being a genuine badass when it counts.

For me, Harry being not perfect and having a few little pathetic traits mark him as a human being I have a much easier time engaging with than some hero without flaws. Contrary to Grimsby, who is such a woobie most of the time that it takes me somewhat out of the story and I have problems sympathizing with his problems because of that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: James Butcher
« on: March 06, 2025, 06:32:21 AM »
Yeah, I read his two first novels and they are... fine? He went to the Jim Butcher school of making his protagonist a bit of a butt monkey, but in the case of Grimshaw Griswald Grimsby, he went a bit overboard and made him just pathetic in too many regards. While I definitely will get the third book of the series, coming out this month, so far the character hasn't convinced me yet that he is a worthy main protagonist, where Jim made Harry a bit pathetic, but also a lot of interesting in one book and has kept improving the character ever since.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months stuck?
« on: July 10, 2024, 10:18:01 AM »
I have learned over the years no to hold my breath on such matters... ::)  On the other hand, we have been a most patient set of fans, happy for any crumb that is thrown our way...  Maybe just maybe he appreciates that, thus not making us wait for years for the next book in the series..

I think the GRRM fans have us beat in terms of patience. ^^

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