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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy- [BG Spoilers]
« on: January 30, 2021, 05:57:52 PM »
She was a boss in Aftermath. Took on a major Fomor threat while still mourning Harry. She held things together when no one else could until he came back.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 21, 2012, 05:27:09 AM »
Just noticed while re-reading Dead Beat that Grevane's staff in the final Darkhollow scene is the exact same description as Ebenezer's (pg 408 in soft cover edition just after Ramirez screams "Look! Look there!") Probably just a coincidence, but interesting. Any speculations?
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
« on: December 15, 2012, 07:02:27 AM »it never says this is because he died, i got the book in my lap.. again arianna was to have him killed anyways..
I think you have built a theory around Maggie and you are having a tough time letting it go. I can only go by what's written in the book and I have told you that already. Re-read it again and see if you feel the same way after.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
« on: December 15, 2012, 06:46:36 AM »I'm not disputing the rest of your post but do you have proof for the bolded section? Also, I'm not getting 7. It's never stated definately that all the half-vamps were cured.
It's stated quite clearly that the Red King was the originator of his entire species. The curse was set up as a line curse: youngest of a line to oldest. Susan was the youngest vampire and therefore the line curse went all the way up to the oldest Red King wiping out his entire line. There would be no RC without the King and no taint. Otherwise please re-read the final chapters of Changes again. It's all quite clearly stated by Harry in the aftermath of Susan's death.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
« on: December 15, 2012, 06:31:44 AM »thats my point she wasn't part vamp, she didn't have a demon, thats wat it killed in the halflings an younger than susan is important too:
"they wanted maggie because she was the youngest" "because her death woulda taken us all with her." "now you're the youngest," "the youngest vampire in the entire and literally damned court. you can kill them all." she didn't have a demon to destroy, she's uniquely maggie. halfling pregnancies dont happen everyday. she'd be different than them, a distillation of it, nothing there to kill.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you are getting several things tangled up.
1) RC doesn't have demons; that's the WC
2) Susan was a half-vampire for 10 years, by your argument the curse wouldn't have worked because Susan wasn't the youngest Red Court Vampire
3) Vampire is not the same as half-vampire.
4) Maggies at the most was a quarter vampire, not a full vampire. She wasn't the youngest vampire. She was the youngest Dresden/ McCoy
5) The Curse set off a chain reaction which killed the Vampire King.
6) It was the Vampire's king's death which cured the vampire taint in the half-vampires, not Susan's death
7) All half-vampires in this reality were cured; Maggie was in this reality therefore she was cured too.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
« on: December 15, 2012, 06:11:32 AM »no, your not comprehending correctly, she 'turned' when she killed martin. otherwise it woulda been pointless for things to go down that way. plus i don't think maggie has a demon part, she's more like a scion. when she turned she was reborn as the youngest
Susan was the youngest vampire; Maggie was a completely different creature: a part vampire. And it is a fact that JB writes that all the half vampires turned back to human. Harry says he cured it; therefore Maggie must also be cured.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
« on: December 15, 2012, 02:39:42 AM »I think that there are surviving Red Court Vampires: Esteban and Esmerelda. They were protected in the Erlking's realm from the curse, and eventually they will work their way free.
Great minds think alike!! LOL. But also Fools seldom differ I guess.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
« on: December 15, 2012, 02:37:34 AM »
I think the parasite is Lash, or what is left of a reconstituted Lash at any rate. The Red Court that didn't die is likely the Ebes and all the RC shielded in the Erlking's domain. Just a guess, but I think they would have been protected from the curse there as they were not on Earth when the curse activated but in the Nevernever. I predict we'll see the Ebes again-- they are too good of villains for Jim not to use them again.
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