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DF Spoilers / Re: Speculation thread: How did that happen?
« on: Today at 01:30:21 PM »
There is a Nicodemus in the Gospel of John in the Bible.

Yes, but I believe that he is the one who offered his own tomb for Jesus to be buried in after He was taken down from the Cross.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: Today at 01:28:12 PM »
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This wasn't in the copy of Battleground that I read...

Nor the copy I read.  Interesting that A.I. came up with it, but did Jim Butcher?  I can buy that Rudy was rejected by a coin because he is mentally ill in one sense, but in another his paranoia might make him just what they would want.  I think in the end Rudy is mentally ill, has been for some time, the events of Battleground just completely shoved him over the sanity cliff.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: Yesterday at 02:24:48 PM »
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No; the point is that Angels don't do that.

They do not "step in" that way, not even to "warn:"  not with an unambiguous Angelic-caliber "thou shalt not," not to influence mortals' free will.

That the Sword did burn Harry can only be a "warning" that a Spookyside "bad actor" is acting upon Harry; that his free will isn't entirely his own.  A free-willed mortal choice does not get an Angelic response or intervention.

Angels warn all of the time, they also test.  A warning really doesn't interfere with free will, a warning is a warning, but it's up to Harry as to how he is going to react to that warning.. It's still all about free will, it's Harry who decides how he wants to react, not outside influences making him do anything.

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1/ But also, nope -- Harry already made that choice, and now has to live with the consequences.  When he chose to take on the WK-mantle, Harry chose chose to eventually become a monster.  The Angels (once again) do not intervene/warn when mortals have made their choice.  You might argue that some mortal may have been "tricked" into taking up a Knight-mantle without understanding how it could mess with their head; but Harry knew it would happen, fully accepted that it would (as it turns out, he has a slim chance not to become a monster!).

Yes, Harry took the least bad choice out of a number of very bad choices to save his daughter.  However becoming the Winter Knight doesn't mean he will automatically become a monster, those choices are still up to him no matter the influences of the mantle and the demands of Mab.  That's what Uriel's words were all about.

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I think "it was just the WK-Mantle (with no Denarians) that triggered/enabled the Sword to act" is a better argument.  .. but also, I think there is a decent argument -- with supporting Dresdenverse lore -- to make a solid case for a Denarian Shadow to be involved.

I think we have to just disagree on that.. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: December 13, 2025, 07:36:27 PM »
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Yes, his friends were there, and worked to stop him... risked themselves to stop him!

Willingly like any friend would do.  You will notice that they also forgave any hurt and understood.
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But the angelic power of Fidelacchius came to bear against Harry... and that doesn't happen for mortals making purely-mortal choices.  The fact that Fidelacchius' miraculous powers manifested:  this says that the supernatural is misbehaving in that scene; that mortal free-will is compromised (and/or that mortals are facing supernatural might, that mortal flesh and bone alone cannot match)

It was a warning, Harry took it as a warning, Harry was ashamed and didn't forget.  In other words a strong warning, and then Harry went on to try and redeem himself.  That's the point.

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It just gives me pause:  nothing called for Jim to write it that way.  Harry could have looked down at a fallen and bleeding Sanya, and come to his senses... without bringing in Butters, or Fidelacchius.  He could have had Butters show up, and not use Fidelacchius.  It would have been a much more "human" moment; but Jim specifically invoked the Angelic.

Or very realistic, between his adrenalin and the Winter Knight's mantle Harry wasn't going to come to his senses that easily or quickly after seeing his beloved murdered and bleeding out in his arms.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: December 12, 2025, 01:15:35 PM »
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If it were just "Harry being Harry" -- mortal, fallible, flawed -- the Angel wouldn't have given Harry the slightest bit of discomfort.  The Angels don't stop mortals from mortally screwing-up.  The pain was a clear demonstration that, justified as his rage may have been, it wasn't just Harry being Harry; Harry was being influenced.

Under normal circumstances I would agree, however the murder of and dying in his arms of the woman he loved, wasn't normal.  Harry's reaction actually was a very normal human one, extreme emotion, grief, anger, shock, freeze, flight, or fight.  There was no thought process in his reaction, it was simply reaction.  It was Harry, reacting as a normal human, except Harry isn't a normal human, he is a powerful wizard and Winter Knight.

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And, I repeat a critical point:  not one but two KotC's, 100% of the Swords in-play, were came to stop Harry; who was, in the end, merely a Knight of Faerie.  Any one KotC could likely have stopped the Winterknight.  Both of them hints more-than-gently at Denarian influence.

No, it was simply that it took that kind of power to stop a powerful wizard/Winter Knight who was in that moment a very upset human being who was reacting with understandably extreme grief and anger.  When Murphy died, Harry simply lost it, nothing more, but when a powerful wizard/Winter Knight loses it, it takes the likes of two Holy Knights to first stop him from harming anyone in his state, then calm him.  You see it at a football game, if a three hundred pound lineman loses it because a guy on the other team got in a cheap shot, it takes several other linemen to stop him, then calm him.  It isn't something you normally see a quarterback or one of the smaller backs do, they just aren't physically strong enough to hold him back in that moment

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I don't think malign influence upon Rudy allows Angels to act to stop Harry.  I point again to the Squires invading Michael's home:  those Squires certainly were under Nicodemus & Anduriel's influence; but the Angels still permitted the attack on Michael's home, and for Charity to be abducted.

It wasn't angels that stopped Harry in that moment, it was his very human friends who stopped him, true they were better equipped, but in the end it was his very human friends risking injury to stop their very upset, but powerful and dangerous friend from doing something he'd regret later, and in the end harm their cause.
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I don't think it takes the whispers of a Shadow (or other supernatural influence) to explain any of shitty things Rudy does.

I don't think so either, in the end Rudy is an emotionally unstable person who is also in plain English, an asshole.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: December 11, 2025, 12:43:47 PM »
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Two KotC's -- the only two Swords with wielders! -- are there in one scene, one fight...
taking the field against Harry Dresden.

Fight against?  Or acting to stop and save Harry from himself in the emotion of the moment.   What Butters and Sanya did was no different from what you see in a sporting event when a player feels he was done dirty and wants to fight the guy who did it.  His teammates will do whatever they can to stop him from doing it. Why? If he gets kicked out of the game or a severe penalty it hurts the whole team and there is a good chance they will lose.  Now is that really fighting against their teammate?  Or is it an aggressive way of saving a teammate from himself?  I say it's the latter.  Harry was out of his mind with grief and anger after Rudy murdered Murphy before his eyes.. An angry out of control [understandably Harry was in that moment] isn't easy to hold back, almost impossible to stop, but they managed.  The influence of Lasciel?  Doubtful, more likely just plain grief and anger at what he had just witnessed.  Also let's not forget that Rudy had been on both his and Murphy's case for sometime, so very easy for Harry to jump to the conclusion that Rudy did this deliberately, maybe trying to kill him, but Murphy got in the way and died for it.  Fighting against?  No, just doing their best to prevent a critical member of their team from being thrown out of the game and thus making matters way worse for their team.

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DF Spoilers / Re: If you can have just one question answered....
« on: December 09, 2025, 02:17:03 PM »

Another question, how did Margaret and Malcolm meet?  Was it love at first sight? How did he change her attitude?  See here we go again, you cannot ask one question, because it sets up many others.

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DF Spoilers / Re: If you can have just one question answered....
« on: December 07, 2025, 11:57:12 PM »


  If murdered, who murdered Malcolm Dresden?  I know about ten more questions follow that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: December 04, 2025, 08:57:11 PM »
The Shadow wasn't actual Lasciel, nor Lasciel's presence.

It was a construct; built by Lasciel, but then independent & disconnected from the Fallen angel.
I have to disagree on that, time will tell who is right on that or we both are wrong, or right..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: December 04, 2025, 02:49:19 PM »
You have to understand, it's implied from what Lash said at the end of White Night that she (and by extension Bonnie) has a great deal of information that is integral to the metaplot and can't be revealed just yet because it would make Harry's life to easy.

So instead she gets to be a genius with all the answers that is simultaneously too dumb to realize she has to hand them out until the last 3 chapters of whatever book they become relevant in.

Just as an example, she 99% knows all about what a starborn is, she can probably tell Harry exactly what Nick's been up to, may well have a bunch of information about what the Black Council has been up to...

Like, she has to be useless, or we don't get a story.

That only works for so long, because it then becomes boring, so she has to be taught to think, hence Bonea becomes an apprentice!  No, it won't happen over night, but it needs to happen as a check on Marcone/Namshiel.  Also making Harry suffer also is getting a bit old, that is becoming all to predictable, and boring.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: November 30, 2025, 01:42:17 PM »
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Absolutely not all of Lasciel's -- not a literal Fallen Angel -- maybe all of the Shadow's knowlege.

Yes, the Shadow did in my opinion, the Shadow was Lasciel in Harry's head.  That's why resisting it once that happened was such a big deal.

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But I'm pretty sure Bonea won't suddenly become (for example) Harry's Guide to the Starborn Phenomenon; I do expect she'll have some highly-pertninent Starborn-relevant info, though!
 

In my opinion it doesn't matter whether she becomes Harry's guide about Starborn Phenomenon, he needs the information, that's important, but not as important as what Harry does with that information.  However the main thing Bonea has to do is grow up or at least mature a bit.  As she is presently, she is a pretty useless character, which begs the question, why all the drama over a half dozen books or more to end up with what? A brilliant, yet totally scatter brained, I further submit potentially dangerous toddler spirit?  Is the joke on Harry, or us?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: November 29, 2025, 01:10:39 PM »


  The thing is, why go though all the trouble of putting Lasciel's shadow in Harry's head, have her fall in love with Harry.  Then as Lash have sex with Harry's Id, produce a "child" or parasite in Harry's head giving him all kinds of mysterious headaches, until we find out the existence of this parasite, then he finally gives birth to it before it kills him, and it lives in a crudely carved wooden skull Harry meant to be Bob's new home, now since Bob is back with Harry, sort of redundant.  We are told that Bonnie has all of Lasciel's knowlege, and Harry's as well, and keep her around as Maggie's little sister who knows all the pancake recipes ever thought of but gets the ingredients mixed up?  We are talking the creation of a character over several books, all of that and Bonnie will remain a toddler/super genius spirit hanging around in the background to be a sometimes foil for little Maggie? Really?   

I really doubt that, and since Bob is back, he or Bonnie has to go, or Jim has to do something with the character.  Since Bonnie's main problem is she isn't trained, she will be Harry's new apprentice.   

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mirror Mirror Tracking on Butcher's official site!
« on: November 26, 2025, 06:01:36 PM »
 ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Out lawn cover and preorder
« on: November 26, 2025, 06:00:14 PM »


 I tend to agree Dina.  Also..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mirror Mirror Tracking on Butcher's official site!
« on: November 26, 2025, 01:45:30 PM »
We are his clients, not his employers or bosses. He offers what we want to sell and it is up to us if we want to buy it or not.

 I think that is a matter of point of view, yes, we are his clients or customers, but at the same time since we have the final say on buying his books or not, we are also his employers.  Because if we don't buy, the publisher won't employ him because they won't make money.  I think we are both right.

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