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DF Spoilers / Re: You'd think they'd change that on day 1 ...
« on: January 29, 2026, 02:51:12 PM »
About 2 months ago, I actually got an email inviting me to apply to be a beta.  The email said betas were being sought for MM.  I don't know why I got the invite; maybe because I signed up for Butcher's newsletter.

In any event, I completed and submitted the form quickly and haven't heard anything since except the sound of crickets.

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DF Spoilers / Re: You'd think they'd change that on day 1 ...
« on: January 27, 2026, 02:46:14 PM »
I'm not sure what happened exactly, but I think the time between Skin Game and Peace Talks made the story lose a lot of readers, and the wait for Twelve Months didn't help. . . .  The reality is that it's been 10 years since the series had any real momentum, and a lot changes in that kind of time.

Yep, and Butcher publicly making 'commitments' and blowing past them ('MM will be finished before 12M book tour') isn't helping either.  Neither is the fact that after MM, Butcher plans to write a book in one of his other series, which suggests there's likely to be a significant gap between MM and the next Dresden book (3 years?).  Having the '% Complete' on the next book isn't a substitute for finishing the 7 remaining books (current plan, but who knows?) on a one-every-12-to-18-month pace that they were on until Skin Game was published 10 years ago in 2015.

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DF Spoilers / Mab (?) in Twelve Months
« on: January 23, 2026, 03:13:21 PM »
I had a strong, negative reaction to Mab in Twelve Months so I thought I'd open a specific thread to hopefully get some thoughts and perspectives to help resolve the reactions and questions I had, including whether I misunderstood or am just wrong. 

-   Part of the plot that the book is driven by is Mab giving Dresden a task that he must complete – make peace with Etri such that the Svartelves resume their relationship with the Winter Court, once again become its armors supplier, etc.  So important is this task that Mab threatens Maggie.  Does Dresden accomplish this task?  Heck no, he instead delegates/re-assigns the task to Mab, who then does the job.  Mab has more than once in prior books been absolutely clear that Dresden is to complete whatever task she assigns him, no matter how difficult and personally distasteful.  But not here.  Why?

-   The apparent answer is that Mab was so happy that Dresden accomplished the second objective that Mab gave Dresden – Lara’s subservience – that Mab was willing to take back and perform the other objective when she  ‘granted a wish’ to Dresden.  To me, the question of why is Mab doing that still remains.   Dresden completed this second task that job Mab required.  I don’t recall Mab previously doing more than acknowledging Dresden’s success with a ‘well done’ and maybe an added word or two on how clever his solution was.  Why would Mab obligate herself so readily and so open-endedly, especially to Dresden who has attempted to escape her clutches and has proven himself to be both clever and a malcontent.  In this situation – and in light of the ensuing physical altercation with Dresden – I simply can’t believe the Mab from prior books would grant Dresden such an open-ended, risky boon simply because he basically did what Mab had told him to do.  It wasn’t as if Dresden success got Mab more than what she required, i.e., Lara’s subservience.  After all, he got no reward at all at the end of Battle Ground.  But the granting of the boon and Dresden ‘re-delegating up’ is the road to solving the ‘impossible’ task with Etri.  Kind of a cheat resolution to the conflict Butcher presented in the first few chapters.

-   With regard to the boon, how many subparts/parameters is Dresden allowed in his wish?  This adds to my thought that the boon is used as a cheat resolution to all or almost all of challenges facing Dresden – ‘Thankfully, Mab just happened to obligate herself to fulfilling a wish, and I wish that she personally resolve all of the tasks and personal challenges I have that involve third persons.”  Dresden should have added that the possibility of Dresden’s conflicts with the White Counsel, including the possibility of Dresden’s death at its hands, has always been a burden on Thomas so she must resolve that conflict as well.  I’ve admired Butcher’s resolutions to difficult problems and puzzles that he sets up in his books.  Resolving everything here with an over-expansive use of a boon uncharacteristically granted out of left field falls far short of his prior standard, IMO.


-   FWTW, if it’s all one big Triple Lindy that Mab orchestrated so that she would be the one able to bargain with the life of Thomas and Justine’s son to resolve the conflict with Etri, I don’t see the linkage between Dresden use of the boon somehow giving Mab the authority to use the infant, or that Dresden somehow could grant Mab that authority since he didn’t have such authority in his own right.

-   And separate and apart from the above the issue of Mab obligating herself openendedly to Dresden, WTH was that scene in Dresden’s bedroom?  Mab seemingly willing to have sex with Dresden, perhaps to the point where Dresden’s consent (or lack thereof) was becoming a real issue.  And then Dresden physically assaults Mab?  As the Winter Knight, how is that possible?  And even if possible, why would Mab allow it?  Just to show Dresden that he was the Winter Knight in all of its meanings?  Remember the Cold Days scene when Dresden threatened Mab with a gun?  Where is that Mab? 

But Dresden is able to and does assault Mab, and sending her flying across the room into a stone wall, breaking bones, stomping on her, etc.  No matter how pleased Mab is with Harry, all of that seemed far out of character from the Mab we’ve seen before who doesn't allow disrespect, sass, etc. from anyone, much less her vassals.  And Mab smiles throughout, seems to enjoy it.  Is Mab that self-satisfied or overjoyed in her belief that Dresden is no longer his own?  Even if so, I don’t think Mab has anything to gain by effectively rubbing Dresden’s nose in her conclusion that he's now Winter-compromised.  Where’s the gracious Mab (relatively) from conversation that she and Dresden had at the end of Battle Ground?   

-   All of which leads me to The Question - is Mab compromised by Nemesis?  Is that even Mab at that point in the book?  (Mother Winter’s later appearance would indicate it's Mab in that scene.)  I hope that there’s some explanation for Mab’s actions other than Butcher wrote himself into a corner with Thomas and the Svartelves and then had to write Dresden out of the corner by having Mab act way, way out of character (IMO, of course).  Or did I just miss something and I’m way off base here? 

Love to hear your thoughts.



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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months Discussion Thread
« on: January 23, 2026, 03:02:37 PM »
I’m still ruminating over Twelve Months, and will have to re-read, but my initial impression is of the book isn’t favorable.  On first reading, I liked it less than Ghost Story on its first reading, which had been my previous low mark for first readings once the series got going after the first few books.  Certainly there are scenes and moments in Twelve Months that I very much liked.  But on the whole, I thought the book awkward and clunky when I’ve come to expect Butcher’s Dresden books to sing.  I’m not saying it’s the worst of the series but the gap between my expectations for substance and quality versus what I got in the book is probably the greatest.   

Some quick points/thoughts on some aspects that jumped out at me:

-   As someone on one of these threads has already brought up, where’s Marcone as Chicago is struggling and re-building?  And as the Baron of Chicago, he takes no action against the ghouls eating people off his streets?  How does that reconcile with the Accord signatory we saw in Battle Ground?

-   Why aren’t Toot-Toot and the wee Folk involved in finding Justine?  Dresden has narrated several times that they are essentially everywhere, and he’s enlisted/bribed/rewarded them in helping him find people, foes, items, etc.  They were used extensively before, during, and after the Battle for Chicago to find the flying squids, cadavers, etc.  Why not used to find Justine?

-   The essentially non-speaking role Demonreach is an odd choice.  We’re used to Dresden talking directly to him, even in the presence of others, and Demonreach responding.  Why so little dialogue here? 

-   Also, where was Lea?  I would have expected at least a scene with her and some discussion of the engagement and the Battle of Chicago she missed.  She must regret that she couldn’t have taken part in THAT.

-   Where were the Men in Black teased at the end of Battle Ground?  I was expecting them to show up in some fashion in this book.

-   Thomas was much too harsh on Dresden.  Without Dresden’s choices (if you want to call them that), Thomas would be dead, Justine likely dead, and their son also likely dead.

However, the biggest issues with the book that I have revolve around Mab.  I’m starting a separate thread for my thoughts on Mab in the hopes of getting different thoughts and perspectives on her role in the book.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Continuity drift - Lara and soul gazes
« on: January 16, 2026, 02:40:26 PM »
Good catch.  I didn't remember that incident, but I was a bit perplexed in reading the preview that Lara had never heard of a Wizard's ability to soulgaze.

Maybe it was awkwardly done to inform new readers and foreshadow their upcoming soulgaze.  Maybe this time, we'll get some info on what Lara (or maybe Fitz) sees when soulgazing with Harry.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Thomas and the Svartelves
« on: January 16, 2026, 02:35:41 PM »
Maybe all that buys Thomas some measure of undertanding and leniency from the Svartelves, but does that help how the Svartelves view Harry?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Sir Baron Marcone
« on: January 16, 2026, 02:34:11 PM »
I doubt very much that Odin has typical business motivations.  Odin must be worth billions so he simply can't have simple business/profit maximization objectives.  I only see Odin renting out his Valkyrie to a Denarian if and only while that Denarian is personally working against the Outsiders and maybe only if to a Denarian who is working with - or are a member of - the Grey Council.  Marcone may fall within those qualifications given his actions in Battle Ground and his position under the Accords.  But he would appear to be a singular exception; no other Denarian showed up to oppose the Titan and her allies.

I would also suspect that if Gard stays with Marcone, she would also continue providing Odin with intelligence.  Maybe that's enough of a reason for Odin to rent Gard to Marcone.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Estate Planning for Wizards
« on: January 16, 2026, 02:23:13 PM »
I would think it would be almost impossible for any member of the White Council to NOT be worth many millions, if not billions, give their ages and the power of investing/compounding over hundreds of years.

It would be interesting to see Butcher address that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months, chapter one
« on: January 08, 2026, 06:47:29 PM »
From what others have written on this site, Butcher has said that the demons that make the White Court vampires and the White Court mantles don't mix, which lead some to conclude that Dresden and Lara are unlikely to consummate their arranged relationship.  But in the released chapters of Twelve Months, Mab is pushing hard for Harry to sleep with Lara ASAP.

And given the apparent ground rule from those chapters that Lara can't use her Whampire powers on Dresden - and she's suppressing her demon for the dates - that consummation would occur while the demon is basically unaware/asleep/unconscious/whatever.

What Mab's play here?  Does Dresden or Winter gain some level of control over Lara or her demon if that consummation occurs while the demon is incapacitated?  Or is Mab counting on Lara conceiving a child with Harry?  There must be some advantage that accrues to Dresden or Winter for Mab to be that interested in Harry and Lara sleeping together at the earliest possible moment.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months, chapter one
« on: January 03, 2026, 03:16:52 AM »
It's more direct if you just go to Amazon and read the sample available for Twelve Months.  It consists of about the first 33 pages of the hardback version, and then maybe 7-10 more pages but with some pages skipped.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: December 28, 2025, 07:10:14 PM »
I wonder if Harry's bodyguard is Gard.  She's likely available as I'm doubtful that Odin will rent out a Valkyrie bodyguard to Marcone now that he's a Nickelhead.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Will he marry her?
« on: December 22, 2025, 02:24:07 PM »
Yes.  Only cheat out of that result should be if Lara dies, which I don't expect.

Second Q:  Will they consummate?  I think yes, too.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Out lawn cover and preorder
« on: November 29, 2025, 12:55:30 AM »
I suspect we'll see that character again since the made a big deal out of "extracting service."

I think this is right. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: November 24, 2025, 02:26:48 AM »
I think that speculation makes sense, that Rudolph has a bigger role here than's been revealed yet.  The name 'Rudolph' is Germanic and means 'famous wolf' or 'glory wolf.'  Any famous wolfs in mythology?  Particularly Germanic?  Possible that Rudolph is Loki in disguise?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mirror Mirror Tracking on Butcher's official site!
« on: November 18, 2025, 02:14:37 AM »
We fans are loyal and continue on, they are counting on that, the writers even try to pretend that some of the events early in the series didn't happen as they try to keep the story going. 

You're a better fan than me.  I can walk away, and have, from series for which I was an enthusiastic early adapter, participated in forums and podcasts, and otherwise annoyed people with my thoughts and cheerleading.  The X-Files comes immediately to mind as an example.  I quit watching seasons before it ended; I think I even left before Duchovny.  I'm hoping the Dresden Files isn't added to the list.  But my relationship to the series isn't solely up to me.

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