I have a hunch that Marcone will need Harry.  I think Marcone will eventually regret his choice. 

My guess is that Marcone will have a case that breaks his rules but he cant act openly against the people responsible. So similar to the monster short he hires it out. Only this time harry is the only one available. Harry starts a war with Canada has Marcone feared he would in that story.  And Marcone ends up hating harry even more

Or maybe Santa Claus is running a big con on Harry and she was faking it under his orders. I am, in retrospect, actually kinda surprised how things went down, with Murphy being a devout catholic. One would think Uriel would have something to say to Odin about taking someone who wielded one of the three swords as an Einherjar. Unless they both want Murphy to power up in preparation for what is coming down the line. Just saying.

Considering how big a deal free will Murphy had to be given a choice. Go in to the light, or join be Odin crew.
Does anyone one still have the quote about Odin having Soul fire. Im not sure but it seems to be used in the creation of einherjar and valkyries.

As someone who spent a lot of time in catholic school. My understanding about the “rebellion” was that the angles were jealous of humans for their free will.  Now in the Dresdinverse I believe that translates to humans weren’t given something to do.
All power in the Dresden seems to come with attachment that feel and sound a lot like responsibilities. Mab has massive power but is forced/compelled to use it in a certain manner. And if this is scalable the more power the more responsibility comes with it. If the requirements of the Fae are any indication, and if you just want to live your best life, being an angel must kind of suck. 
The reason that they can’t repent and ask for forgiveness is that they are still pissed for the same reasons that they rebelled in the first place. On a topic for another thread, I believe that’s why Nicodemus works so well with fallen because together they get the freedom and the power with none of the attachments.
So for Lasciel who is told that not only was her shadow not able to tempt a black sheep wizard who has already killed with magic. Who seems to be doubling in power every year. Who signed up to me Mab’s slave/plaything. Who bonded with deamonreach because he needed power. That guy not only kept his humanity but changed her shadow so that it sacrificed itself for him and created an immensely being that Harry keeps in a carved wooden box and pretends that its daughter. And What if the shadow was offered the chance to return to the fold and got into heaven or at least joins Murphy’s dad in his little group.
If that didn’t have Lasciel in a rage I’m sure Nick reminds her of it every 20 minutes or so. Then he givers Lasciel to a traumatized girl that thinks that everyone is just using her for either sex or her power. I’m sure Lasciel has been talking about nothing but revenge since Hanna picked her up.

Different explanations are given for the rebellion. Some of the reasons i have heard include that a) humans were to have dominion over angels who are messagers, which rubbed luci ( pride personified) the wrong way. His reason being look at how awesome i am and look at the puny humans. Other is that the Lucy was jealous of the amount of love and favour that humans were going to receive upon the creation. With luci having been the favourite before he saw that as being replaced with a new creation.

One minor; very minor, disappointment in Skin Game was that Harry didn't get very much conversation time with Lasciel.  Harry's conversations with Nicodemus are usually fun; if creepy, and I expect nothing less from a full discussion between Harry and Lasciel, but that didn't happen in this case.
 
Granted, Harry was under the gun, what with Nicodemus revealing that the Genoskwa had taken up Ursiel's coin and Hannah Ascher was carrying Lasciel's, this meant Harry didn't have time to call Lasciel out on her BS, because almost everything she said to Harry were lies.
 
I'm going to point out the obvious lies and speculate on the biggest lie of them all.  I suspect, the next time Lasciel makes an appearance that allows for Harry to give the fallen angel some backtalk, he will do exactly that and get under her skin in the process.

Remember these lines? (Edited)
Harry: "Lasciel!"
Lashiel: "Hello lover."
Michael: "Lover?"
Harry: "It's complicated."
Michael: "Oh Dear."

Yes it's funny, but that obscures the fact that Lasciel's first statement to Harry was an outright lie.  Harry and Lash developed a love for one another, not Harry and Lasciel.  Yes, originally Lash was just a copy of Lasciel but in the end she became her own being, with a will to decide for herself.

The same applies to the statement Lasciel made about Bonea.
Lashiel:  “Meaning that since a whisper in your ear that should have killed you seems to have failed, I intend to skip the subtlety, rip your head apart, and collect our child. She’s far too valuable a resource to be allowed to die with you.”
Harry: "You know about that."
Michael:  "Child?"
Harry: "Complicated."

Another lie, Bonea wasn't Lasciel's child, Bonea is Lash's child.  Lasciel might want to claim that a distinction between herself and her former shadow self didn't exist.  When Harry first picked up the coin that was a reasonably true statement.  In time that was no longer true.  Lash had become an individual with her own will and conscience.  When Lash said, "She... doesn't deserve you." it showed us that an unbridgeable gap had opened between Lash and Lashiel.  Lash was now a distinct individual.

That gets me to Lasciel's biggest lie.  I'll warn you I'm going into WAG territory here and I need to give some exposition first to help explain how I reached this conclusion.

There have been a number of different versions of the story of Dr. Faustus going back over four hundred years.  If you are unfamiliar with this story, Dr. Faustus calls up one of Satan's minions; Mephistopheles, in order to offer his soul to Satan in exchange for the usual; power, wealth, extended life and so on; and of course, later deeply regrets his decision.  In some of the later versions of this story Mephistopheles is Satan.  Mephistopheles is just one of Satan's many names.  However, in the earliest versions of this story Mephistopheles is one of those beings who fell with Satan.  This is important, because I believe Mephistopheles point of view about hell is identical to that of the Fallen in the Dresden Files.  Jim Butcher has a degree in English Literature, so he probably knows Christopher Marlowe's late 16th century version of the story, "The Tragical History of Doctor Faustus."  Here is the relevant passage:

FAUSTUS. And what are you that live with Lucifer?
MEPHIST.  Unhappy spirits that fell with Lucifer,
                Conspir’d against our God with Lucifer,
                And are for ever damn’d with Lucifer.
FAUSTUS.  Where are you damn’d?
MEPHIST.   In hell.
FAUSTUS.  How comes it, then, that thou art out of hell?
MEPHIST.   Why, this is hell, nor am I out of it:
                 Think’st thou that I, who saw the face of God,
                 And tasted the eternal joys of heaven,
                 Am not tormented with ten thousand hells,
                 In being depriv’d of everlasting bliss?

It seems very likely to me that Fallen in the Dresden Files; whether they are stuck in one of the coins or if they have joined with someone who has taken up one of the Blackened Denarius, are every bit as much in hell as Mephistopheles described in Christopher Marlowe's version of Dr. Faustus.  This leads me to what I believe is the real reason Lasciel was so P.O.'d at Harry. 

It wasn't because she was women scorned.  Think about it, Lasciel has been around since near the dawn of creation.  She was; according to Lash, created for a purpose too complex for mere mortals like Harry to comprehend.  Yet we are to believe that Lasciel's ego is so fragile that one mortal who refused to fully take up her coin pushes her over the edge into insane, murderous, scorned girlfriend mode.  I don't think so.  If I'm right, what was the real reason why Lasciel was furious with Harry?  As Harry would say, "It's complicated," but easy to understand.

It starts in understanding how Lasciel; really how all of the Fallen in the coins, create their shadow selves.  To make a copy of her memory and personality, Lasciel must have used a tiny portion of herself.  According to Bob, angels are soul and nothing but their soul.  The Fallen must tolerate losing a small part of themselves until the mortal who touched the coin they reside in, accepts the offer of power from their shadow self.  When the mortal accepts the offer the true Fallen enters and reacquires that part of their soul.

This can't happen because Lash decided to side with Harry and then sacrificed herself to save him.  Maybe it's possible for an angel to regrow their soul, but I imagine it would be tougher for a fallen angel to do the kind of things that make that possible.  Perhaps with a new host, Lasciel can go out on Halloween night and steal part of the soul of another angel, but this idea seems highly speculative.

Whatever the case may be, Lasciel can't have been happy even if she only lost one hundredth of one percent of her soul.  That a mortal could have taken it away from her would probably make one of the Fallen especially upset.  However, I think there is something else, something special that pushes Lasciel over the edge into volcanic, murderous, ex-girlfriend mode.  It has to do with what Lash became when she turned her back on Lasciel.

Remember when Harry said this to Lash?
"I don't think you're the only one doing any influencing here. I don't think you're the same creature now that you were when you came."
And later added this?
"What if you don't have to be Lasciel?  Think about it.  What if you do have a choice?  A life of your own to lead?  What if, huh?  And you don't even try to choose?"

I doubt Harry understood the full implications of what he told Lash.  Initially, it reads as Harry telling Lash that he changed her as much as she changed him.  That Lash could be more than just Lasciel's shadow and become her own person; make that her own being.  I don't think Harry realized that for Lash to make that choice, it would mean not only that Lash would have her own life, it would be a mortal life.  Lash could only live as long as Harry was alive.  No more going back to the immortal fallen angel.

Even though Lash didn't have her own physical body, she was imprinted in Harry's mind, in his brain.  Over time that tiny bit that had once been a part of Lasciel's soul had changed.  When Lash finally said, "She doesn't deserve you" we can confidently say that Lash's soul had grown; and it was her soul now.  She had a become a new independent being.  Then Lash made the decision to sacrifice herself for Harry.  "No greater love" and so forth.

Now we get back to the importance of the story of Dr. Faustus and what Mephistopheles said about hell.  Lasciel is in hell, wherever she or her coin or her human host may be.  Lasciel is locked out of the "eternal joys" and "eternal bliss" forever.  Lash isn't.  Harry not only kept that little bit of Lasciel's soul from coming back to her, he helped it grow, helped it become an independent being and Harry helped Lash to find the will to redeem herself.  Lash now has what Lasciel can never have again.  That is the real source of Lasciel's anger. 



 






 

This is beautifully written. I have a few uhm reservations about the statements and conclusions but just plain beatiful.

.. If Harry was a dud, since Lea was the godmother, 

Woah  .... um . Lea as the godmother is the to ensure that Harry isn't a dud. Harry has to grow up able to defend himself from anything and Lea will make sure that he is able to hang with anyone.
Ps Harry claims she took advantage of him, claims she wishes to make him her dog but hold on. Harry learns to be cautious of fae deals from her. By the time Mab comes for him he is able to make a pretty good deal with her based on his experience with Lea.
O she tried to turn him into a dog. But did she not really, every interaction they have Lea comes up just short and at times gives harry insite in to something that ends up helping him.

I think there is a lot of truth in all of this.  There are a lot of assumptions of many what a star born is, Drakul and Listens seem to fit that mold, Harry doesn't.  Margaret was a very clever woman, she realized that because of his protection that she couldn't kill Lord Raith with her death curse, but she discovered a significant weakness that would render him pretty impotent, starvation.  Likewise I believe based on what Lash told Harry, she knew that it would take another star born to battle the Enemy in the BAT, but it wasn't until she met Malcolm and fell in love with him that she decided to conceive one.  Like preventing Lord Raith the ability to feed was the key to her curse, conceiving a star child with Malcolm's "good heart" or nature is key to defeating the Enemy.  It's this basic trait in his personality that pulls Harry up short when he strays too far to the dark side or into normal star born behavior..  At this time however neither side really understands this, they just make assumptions that Harry is, ergo this is how he is..

So far Harry is an anomaly amongst the Starborn we have met and i think Malcom is the key to that. Its Malcolm's nature that Harry inherited keeps him good. Which is part of the reason why I think Malcom was a plant by Uriel. Not a supernatural being though just a normal guy who is good. Good in the best way possible and good in its everyday form. That shows Harry the way and keeps him from becoming like the other starborn

I think there is a lot of truth in that.  However not so much because she is high profile but because she generally acts very sane and predictable..  Nemesis has infested other high profile people, Aurora, Maeve, Lea, but went undetected for quite some time.

I agree with is assessment.
So far the 3 people nemesis has infected that we have spent the most time with have not been bastions of sanity. Lea is erratic and chaotic, she wants to take down Mab. Any strange behavior she exhibits can be written off. Maeve was already a poor WL. Molly says she was not doing her duties properly for sometime. Any change in a behavior was again easy to overlook as her laziness. Aurora was probably of the same cloth. Not sure about her before hand. Every little evidence for her state of mind before nemfection.

Same with Justine any erratic behavior from her will not raise any eyebrows. She cra cra


But with Lara miss cold and efficient, any erratic behavior will probably raise alarms from not just her court but everyone who interacts with here