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DF Spoilers / Re: Wild WAG Sunday
« on: June 11, 2021, 05:02:30 PM »
Once Harry Prime is gone Merlin will appear.  Mab will be revealed as Harry's true love and will meet the fate of his other loves when she is back stabbed by Molly who will complete her trip to evil. And so on.
And of course Molly then becomes MAB later. So she killed herself, somehow, and later travels back in time. At which point early-Harry/Merlin will cast her out to become the cold Mab from the current still-human Molly.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who gets a Banner? (and why?)
« on: June 10, 2021, 08:14:29 PM »
I'd go along with that except for one thing, Marcone had to be pressed hard to aid those harmed by the battle.  He also was willing to go along with a war on humanity.  It wasn't till Harry shamed him and pointed out he'd make a fortune in contracts did he go along with it.
Well is a nickelhead. Humanity doesn't always come through right.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is your favorite part and why?
« on: June 08, 2021, 03:47:39 PM »
I am going to go with a cheesy one. Murphy at Chichen Itza, I think the angelic pronouncement and her actions really drove home just what a crazy amount of power was there, to have 3 potential angelic sockpuppets on hand for team-Harry (of course they already had a wizard or two and the second most powerful of the active Winter Fae, but still).

And of course, from there until Susan's death. It's Harry's first real supernatural battle, not ambush/raid/skirmish. And did it ever deliver. Battle Ground feels sameish in comparison, been there, seen that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who gets a Banner? (and why?)
« on: June 08, 2021, 03:41:51 PM »
I'm trying to figure out whether it was Marcone's position as a signatory of the Accords and Harry's position as the Winter Knight that allowed them to summon banners or if it was actually their positions' as Baron and Wizard of Chicago?

Basically was it the Accords that empowered them or the city's faith in them?

Thoughts?

On the one hand, Mab sort of says it's an optional-extra power Winter Knights can manifest. On the other hand, punk Marcone then does it too.

So to be frank, I have no idea. The 'faith' option explains Marcone (and Harry), but doesn't really explain Mab's comment. The Winter Knight Power idea explains Mab's comment, but not how Marcone did it.

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That's true, but the Fallen aren't chumps either. Arguably the Fallen (not just the Denarians, the whole lot of them) are a far scarier threat than Winter, Odin, Hades etc.

So it's a risk-reward problem. If the Denarians were determined enough I don't think they would care one iota about Hades or Odin or Mab. Depends on what the value of such items were to them. World-ending apocalypse stuff, especially if it was the only way or if it was a sure-fire victory, seems like it would  something they would do anything to get.
I see it quite differently.

Yes, the Fallen COULD try that. But then the un-fallen Angels would be able to come out and play at full strength, too. Blow for blow, hit for hit, and they would probably counter them about exactly.

Only about exactly, of course, but this rounding error is where people like Mab and Odin WOULD make a difference. Angels vs Fallen is probably about a 50:50 fight; Angels+Mab+Harry vs Fallen is 50+1:50.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is Nicodemus?
« on: May 27, 2021, 04:07:02 PM »
Judas is a good candidate, here is another possible one, Thomas.  He is called "Doubting," I can see Nic getting seduced because of his constant questioning.
We already have a Thomas, and I can't believe Nic wouldn't goad about it in some way.

Course there's also Peter, who thrice denied Christ, Simon who was maybe a bit too zealous (and overzealousness leads to disillusion, and Harry having a teacher Simon might not be as obvious a goad), Paul who got his start persecuting Christians, 2 Jameses, etcetera ...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Erlking's purpose?
« on: May 16, 2021, 09:15:04 AM »
I recall, but can't find back, a quote about the Queens being able to extract more warm bodies from among the wyldfae if they so require.

So perhaps the whole wyld serves as a kind of backup for the actual courts, and ergo, the Erlking's power is supposed to be a backup for the Queens in matters directly related to the Queens' purpose (and not say for Winter-Summer powergames).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's New Training Coach
« on: May 14, 2021, 01:13:35 PM »
Harry got 3 more of the Arma Christi than the bad guys. Seems the Fallen are already kinda countered.

And when facing a Titan, Harry held onto his love to beat her. So he's kind of a Knight of Love already. Even if he's a bit more on the gray side.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Blackstaff picks his successor.......
« on: May 12, 2021, 05:31:57 PM »
As interesting as that sounds, it might just kill Dresden to attempt to use the Eye. It's not just the corruption effect. It's also the sheer power. It would be like handling nuclear energy.
Millions of people handle nuclear energy, through the system of protection known as the power grid. Who says the Blackstaff can't do the same? ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Why was Ferrovax in GP
« on: May 12, 2021, 05:27:14 PM »
Ferrovax also defined Michael. And Michael is a big enough role that a throwaway bit about a scary visitor seems good enough.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Think the White Council will make an attempt?
« on: May 08, 2021, 06:36:52 AM »
I agree that a question is whether the Turtlenecks qualify as human.  As we know, they don't seem to consider the White Court vampires as human, even though they are very nearly human.

But, there definitely is a self-defense exception to the First Law.  Given that, I cannot see how opposing armies in actual combat situations would not be considered within that exception. 

Here's Storm Front:

Butcher, Jim. Storm Front (The Dresden Files, Book 1) (p. 75). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

Summer Knight:

Butcher, Jim. Summer Knight (The Dresden Files, Book 4) (p. 39). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
I would say instead that that all shows there's a current of WC thought that such an exception exists, but there's serious pushback against it (hence why Harry was on harsh probation and not cleared; the hardliners needed to be appeased).

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Or maybe...

Mab has said she would sacrifice herself if need be to stop the Outsiders. What if she's trying to push Harry and Molly into being ready to replace her, so that when the day comes, she sacrifices herself, and they slot right in cause they've been planning to overthrow her (rather than as Harry is mostly plotting now, abandon her).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Think the White Council will make an attempt?
« on: May 02, 2021, 07:10:38 AM »
I think Jim said that Twelve Months will be about Harry dating Lara, and having to survive attempts on his life.  Do you think any of these attempts will actually be done by wizards of the White Council?
I doubt it. The Council is filthy rich and cowardly, much better to hire disposable assassins. Sure, it's Harry Dresden they're going after, so any one assassin won't be cheap, but still.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Blackstaff picks his successor.......
« on: May 01, 2021, 09:53:21 PM »
Now that's a good question.  The blackstaff is both the role and the artifact itself.  However Jim doesn't tend to mince words, and he did specifically say "Chooses HIS successor".  So as cool as it would be if the staff did the choosing on its own I'm pretty sure it's the actual wizard in the role who picks the next wizard to fill that role.
Well we know what Elaine said about the shape of Harry's foci. If the blackstaff has any gender...  ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: What should happen to Rudolph?
« on: May 01, 2021, 09:51:23 PM »
Dunno how, but just send him to jail or other protective custody, he's gonna be ever more insane as reality becomes ever more supernatural. And it's starting to strain credibility that such an obvious lickspittle gets good enough at sucking up to survive it all.

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