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DF Spoilers / Re: Sidhe vs Lyrics [Cold Days Spoilers]
« on: August 01, 2021, 09:37:51 PM »
It's also interesting to see that Maeve sings solo at the end, "And many more." She might have really wanted that, if she thought she could turn him. Or she might not have, and lied in song in front of everyone.  :o
I think that lie would appeal to JB.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Damn, Maeve really did win
« on: August 01, 2021, 09:35:24 PM »
I think it all rests on understanding if Molly really was clueless.

I think, fundamentally, Mab gambled better than Maeve there - Molly is a good Lady, even if she has a learning curve.

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Vlad II Drakul is also a bad fit for the previous starborn cycle, which has to have been in the early 1300's where Vlad II was a boy in 1395 (counting 1970-666 gives 1304; not sure I remember Harry's birth year, but definitely not right for a boy of 1395).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Jim on character vs character
« on: July 30, 2021, 08:30:47 PM »
But their collective sacrifices did weaken Ethniu and removed the eye from her, then Harry with Marcone's help was able to whisk her away to prison..  What to your mind would have worked better?Yes, a better plan, which you haven't demonstrated so far.
How about beating Ethniu when she stood against three immortals? How much did those mortal punks really tire her out in comparison?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Jim on character vs character
« on: July 29, 2021, 07:56:47 PM »
Was he? Amazing isn't it, that he managed to mutter the exact right word, at the exact right time. That is why I mentioned "rope a dope,"  if you are a boxing fan, and even if you aren't most people have heard of the strategy of the late great Mohamed Ali in the latter years of his boxing career.  He'd lean back on the ropes for several rounds, yes, take a lot of punishment, it would even look like he was losing, but then when the time was right, he'd deliver the knock out punch.  I'm thinking that Odin played rope a dope with Ethniu, and when she thought she had the upper hand, he delivered the knock out punch.

It's possible, but, I don't think he wanted that. Having a failsafe in case plan A fails is a bit different than 'lose my spear' being his plan.

That said, it IS intriguing that Chicago has 2 Swords and a Denarian on standby when a Titan comes knocking, and the third Sword coming in on time - almost as if the Angels (Fallen or not) did have sufficient foresight to predict a threat of this magnitude, and prepared for it. Almost makes you wonder if Lucy cheated in SF just to allow Uriel to upgrade his pawn to a Knight for this fight, though that may be attributing too much collusion.

Granted, Odin did have quite a bunch of Einherjar and 2 Valkyries ready to roll in Chicago too, so he can't have been completely unprepared.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dresdenverse Wishful Thinking - Locations
« on: July 18, 2021, 12:12:01 PM »
I would think some waterworks would be an excellent low-side-damage kind of duelling spot. The Niagara Falls, or if Harry has to face a water mage, maybe the Dutch 'Afsluitdijk' for being associated with murdering a sea (don't tell me that wouldn't help the not-water-mage).

And Rome, Harry absolutely should visit the Colosseum or St. Peter's. And given what JB has already shown, I figure he could navigate that without getting gimmicky or offensive (for similar reasons, I don't think Jerusalem's in the cards - too much risk of being offensive by attributing local sources of power to just one faith; at least in Rome all the Pagan sites got picked up by the Church or Tourism so you don't have to say who was right).

Facing the Fomor at Cape Horn would be just the place to put them finally in their watery grave. If they can't stand there, they can never stand.

Meeting Ivy at one of the world's great libraries or museums, and finding just how scary powerful (and useful - I have hope she remains a good gal) she can be in a place where human advancement is celebrated. I think so far she's only been seen in places where animals are celebrated/remembered. She might even be a nice fit for Rome; Vatican Archives anyone, with her filling in the missing pieces Nick and the Nickelheads burned.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab's plans with Harry
« on: July 17, 2021, 11:33:41 AM »
Any plan that revolves around marrying the Winter Lady seems like... well. I don't think she can without breaking the Mantle. If procreation is against the Mantle, how could formal agreements to procreate be acceptable? I know it's a rather stripped-to-the-bone conception of marriage which rips out some important bits alongside the unimportant, but still.

That said, Mab clearly IS trying to push Molly and Harry apart, but I'm still not sure if that isn't like here trying to murder Harry - she doesn't mean it, she just doesn't believe their relation is useful if it's weak enough to be broken by this kind of shenanigans.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Carlos in Infected
« on: July 16, 2021, 06:37:57 AM »
Well to me the whole thing works best if Carlos was just Carlos.

Why?

Simple - we've known Harry is treated as suspicious or probably-evil since day 1 of the series, but what we see is him consistently proving to e.g. the Wardens that he's really not as bad as they suspect. As powerful maybe, but not as bad. So how'd he ever get to be mistrusted?

Enter Carlos - a notionally upstanding Warden who used to like Harry. Who probably still likes Harry as a person. But because Harry is canoodling with Mab and Lara, and constantly threatening Carlos with Molly (even if Harry doesn't know it), he gets damned suspicious. Add a bit of crazy in the fight with the vampires that killed his other friends, and suddenly that Harry-liker is one more of his enemies - and Harry'll have an uphill struggle if he wants to be friends again.

In short: Carlos-as-human is there to explain/remind why good upstanding people can be Harry's enemy.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Ferrovax Identity - crazy theory
« on: July 11, 2021, 05:24:30 PM »
The suffix for the Dragons isn't just -vax. It's also -thrax, like in Siriothrax. It could be that the true suffix is the shared -ax, which has a meaning as a suffix.

As for the names, Ferro is Latin, whereas Pyro and Sirio are Greek. Collectively they could be Light, Fire, and Iron, as others have said.

We know Light, particularly sunlight, can kill some supernatural things. So can Fire, and so can Iron.

So what's the fourth vulnerability for the supernatural world? That might help us identify the nature of the fourth.

I doubt it's faith, hope, or love, as those seem to fall under specific purviews.

Salt, maybe? How do we feel about Salivax/Salithrax or Alavax/Alathrax, keeping it to Latin or Greek?

Silver? Argentivax/Argentithrax or Asimivqx/Asimithrax?
(Running) Water also has some anti-magic properties, so Hydrax or Aquax could work.

And Hydrax sounds a lot like Hydra...

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DF Spoilers / Re: All those other Coins...
« on: July 11, 2021, 05:15:44 PM »
Merlin would make a nice mirror for Harry, I guess.

Presumably if he has it, he didn't use it much. That mirror is already taken by Marcone. No, if it's the Merlin, he got the coin safely, he stashed it in a box without being Shadowed, and he keeps it around for when he needs power more than reason. And when disaster strikes, he will pick up the coin and find out it's one of the thugcoins, and be none the stronger for it (though a bit less killable).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Reread of small favor
« on: July 11, 2021, 05:08:36 PM »
I thought "do your duty" was referring to Mab needing her to take her out eventually.
And as for the fates, the whole courts are Lachesis. The trick is exactly why they ordered the courts in such a manor. Not sure about the true purpose of the lady's vs queens. Haven't watched Babylon 5 and I don't know where to find it, but I remember the one who was, the one who is and the one who will be trope was borrowed from there. Suppose it has to do with breaking down a larger being into more reality friendly forms.(and preventing imbalance through layering) Actually... That makes me wonder what Odin did with the parts he doffed to become what he is now..

Throwing that on Babylon 5 seems a bit weird, given Babylon 5 borrowed it from much older material. And a maiden/mother/crone split is ancient, too.

That said, I agree the split was to allow the Lady extensive agency, and the Queen still some, within the human world.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarian Host Compatibility Survey
« on: July 04, 2021, 10:01:27 AM »
The battle form of a cat is a cat, obviously. Best a Fallen could do is make the claws longer to go after bigger prey.

That said, I don't think cats fall into the right category of being. They don't have human-enough souls to be part of the free will rigmarole.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Are We Wrong about Christos?
« on: June 30, 2021, 09:23:31 PM »
Of course Christos was last seen flying and on fire, so how much does it matter?

He should by rights be dead.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Total WAG: Cowl's Real Plan
« on: June 25, 2021, 07:43:55 PM »
I gotta say this is one of the better arguments why so many people are recruiting Harry even though he hates them - to be able to use Outsiders without risking Empty Night.

Of course everyone sane is also recruiting Harry, because he can also block those crazier people from properly  using Outsiders to gain power, but it makes a serious amount of sense how you put it. Kudos :)

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DF Spoilers / Re: how Harry could beat Carlos, Eb, and others
« on: June 20, 2021, 02:02:18 PM »
The obvious best option is to get in close and start punching. It's how Molly/the WL got him, after all, and it worked extremely well.

Now, Eb has magical countermeasures to stop that kind of thing, so he'd be harder to crack.

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