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DFRPG / Re: West Portland OR DFRPG
« on: January 23, 2011, 04:50:49 AM »
If you can't find enough people there and you write well, you could start an online play by post game here.

The downside to this is that it's much slower play speed, but you will always have an adequate crop of willing players. All depends on what you're comfortable with.

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DFRPG / Re: Wizard Baiting For Fun And Profit
« on: January 13, 2011, 10:23:01 PM »
Traps that only stay "passive" when receiving a coded signal from several transmitters.  Also, running water and circles galore.

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DFRPG / Re: Forum game
« on: January 13, 2011, 04:20:57 AM »
What kind of pace are you envisioning for the game? What kind of response time and commitment are you looking for?

This, and for curiosity's sake, what setting (your site implies it is Chicago?)

EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, it's play as an existing Dresden character in Chicago.

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DFRPG / Re: Levels of Canon?
« on: January 10, 2011, 05:57:22 PM »
Right- those errors would be straight-up non canon, since Jim's work supersedes other endorsed Dresden works.  (See my Star Wars example above- If Jim says Davian Campbell and Gilgamesh don't exist, then they don't- but until that time there's no reason for them NOT to exist- since Dresden/Bob/Billy's sidenotes acknowledge them in the canon universe.  Lots of Baltimore is iffy since there was the "parts of this MIGHT be true" comment, so I gave it its own category that gives it canon potential.

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DFRPG / Re: Levels of Canon?
« on: January 10, 2011, 05:39:57 PM »
Think of it like Star Wars media.  Dozens of writers have written new Star Wars canon.  Occasionally Lucas gives input on new material (ie cartoons and certain plot points).  However, Lucas can ignore all those writers and change canon (like he did with the entire Clone Wars- ignored 5 years of other authors' work.- In other words, 1=Lucas's movies, 2=other SW novels/other media)  Same thing goes here- 2nd level is canon, but if Jim wanted to it's well within his right to change canon, particularly if it's not his.  I threw hypothetical in because some of it is actual canon, and some isn't- open to interpretation of WoJ.  The Baltimore heading states some is "fact" and some it was made up the the in-universe author.

I thought I remember Butcher giving input to the RPG, but it wasn't a full collaboration.  Out of curiosity, what were the 2 mistakes?

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DFRPG / Levels of Canon?
« on: January 10, 2011, 03:54:04 PM »
Another thread prompted me to make this one.  Many people discuss whether or not the RPG is full canon, semi-canon, non-canon, Where does fanon fit in, etc.  I feel like my attempt below covers most of the bases.  There is a grey area in the RPG where official canon Harry, Bob, and Billy acknowledge something/someone- such as Davian Campbell- as existing outside the RPG- that makes them "theoretically canon".


1:Jim Canon- A Novel, Short Story, WoJ.  This comes from highest authority, and cannot be contradicted canonically (occasionally retconned by Jim)
2:Theoretical Canon- Davian Campbell, Gilgamesh. From a supplement, like the RPG, where it is written "in-universe" and canon characters comment about the material outside the RPG. (example: Bob talks about Gilgamesh in the margins such that he is canonically a Accords signatory that really "exists").  WoJ/later novels can contradict, but should currently be taken as legitimate.
3:Hypothetical Canon:- Damocles Ravenborn, <most of Baltimore material>- Possible but not confirmed canon from a supplement. It is never directly stated as factual or fictional.  WoJ/later works can affirm/deny (example: Baltimore chapter of YS- in-universe author Davian Campbell states he makes up some of the material, and some of it is factual).  Unlike Davian Campbell, who gets a affirming mention from Harry, Bob, or Billy into the "theoretical canon" category, these entries have no reason to be canon or non-canon.
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4:Parallel Fanon: An unofficial work- usually by fans- of the Dresden Files, not associated legally, etc. It may be an RPG campaign, short story, etc.  However, it does not contradict present canon at the time of its inception (later canon from above could bump this down to 5, see below)
5:Contradictory Fanon: An unofficial work, as Parallel Fanon.  However, this work contains some contradiction with present canon, and could not co-exist with Butcher's precise universe.


Thoughts?

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DFRPG / Re: DFRPG Supplement
« on: January 10, 2011, 03:48:09 PM »
afaik the "Tales from the Paranet" (that was the title iirc) will also include some stuff about the farther reaches of the nevernever
Do you have a source?

I believe this interview has more information on the supplement, so check it out: http://www.thewalkingeye.com/?p=973

Basically, some updates on how to use stuff from the most recent books, and a whole lot of city creation examples.  The city creation examples aren't canon (and neither is Baltimore, as far as I know), just things to give people ideas.  Among the "cities" that are planned for the supplement are the Nevernever, the entire continent of south america, a traveling game, and a Florida swamp town.

He's the way I view Canon, since the RPG is supposed to be "canon" in Dresden's world- the comments Dresden makes in the margin are theoretically canon (example: In RPG Your Story 364, Bob talks about Gilgamesh- see below).  However, most of Baltimore is hypothetical canon- the "author"- Alpha Davian Campbell (another theoretical canon, since he's writing in-universe for the RPG- says he makes up some of it.)

My interpretation of canon:
1:Jim Canon- A Novel, Short Story, WoJ.  This comes from highest authority, and cannot be contradicted (occasionally retconned by Jim)
2:Theoretical Canon- ex: Davian Campbell, Gilgamesh. From a supplement, like the RPG, where it is written "in-universe" and canon characters comment about the material outside the RPG. (example: Bob talks about Gilgamesh in the margins such that he is canonically a Accords signatory).  WoJ/later novels can contradict, but should currently be taken as legitimate.
3:Hypothetical Canon:- Damocles Ravenborn, <most of Baltimore material>- Possible but not confirmed canon from a supplement. It is never directly stated as factual or fictional.  WoJ/later works can affirm/deny (example: Baltimore chapter of YS- in-universe author Davian Campbell states he makes up some of the material, and some of it is factual).  Unlike Davian Campbell, who gets a affirming mention from Harry, Bob, or Billy, these entries have no reason to be canon or non-canon.
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4:Parallel Fanon: An unofficial work- usually by fans- of the Dresden Files, not associated legally, etc. It may be an RPG campaign, short story, etc.  However, it does not contradict present canon at the time of its inception (later canon from above could bump this down to 5, see below)
5:Contradictory Fanon: An unofficial work, as Parallel Fanon.  However, this work contains some contradiction with present canon, and could not co-exist with Butcher's precise universe.

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DFRPG / Re: Seelie Spellcaster- Help Please
« on: January 05, 2011, 04:43:16 AM »
You could in theory break your spellcasting up into elements (Air, Cold, Darkness, etc) so as to support a pyramid. It's not RAW but if you really want a way to expand sponsored casting there it is.

Actually, the way I'm handling this is as follows:

Erika Stallings is a young spellcaster, exclusively an evocator.  She specializes in air to the point of refininment, though she also knows fire and spirit.  After several years, she comes to Chicago to come visit her uncle, John Stallings.  She finds him (unknowingly) dead to rights with supernatural thugs (behind veils ready to strike).  "By chance" a mysterious being offered her the necessary power to fell her uncle's hidden opponents.  She accepted the offer with learning her benefactor: Oberon, King of the Spring Court.  She still does not know his identity.

Adseelie (Spring) Magic is primarily air-based.  However, Erika already has considerable power in air magic.  Oberon's benefit is +2 to air spirit and +2 air control.  Due to its benefactor and sponsored nature, it does not count for the pyramidal evocation powers (in other words, Erika's +3/+3 Air is counted as +1/+1 for the pyramid, since Oberon's power is external and theoretically temporary).  Other spells also have some air effects to them as well.

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DFRPG / Re: Seelie Spellcaster- Help Please
« on: January 04, 2011, 11:02:09 PM »
^That's around the lines of what I was looking for, thanks.

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DFRPG / Re: Seelie Spellcaster- Help Please
« on: January 04, 2011, 10:43:07 PM »
Alright then, how would a (un)seelie spellcaster advance their magic in general? Lea didn't reach her magical levels overnight (I assume).

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DFRPG / Seelie Spellcaster- Help Please
« on: January 04, 2011, 10:16:48 PM »
I'm working on an Emissary of a Faerie Court, but not a Knight.  However, she does use sponsored magic in her task.  Is there a way to apply refinement to sponsored magic (specifically Faerie magic)?

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DFRPG / Re: Undertown RPG ~ San Francisco: Shaking the Foundations
« on: January 03, 2011, 05:34:23 PM »
Hey,

I was considering joining this game (haven't played the RPG yet, this would be my first go at it).  Just a few quick questions:

*What's the time period (ie what book is this running concurrent to or in between what books)?
*Is it an alternate future (ie story deviates from Dresden novels)?
*What templates have you guys already used (I don't want to repeat any)?
*How far into the game are you?

Gracias.

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