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Author Craft / Re: NaNoWriMo anyone?
« on: November 10, 2009, 10:39:51 PM »
 :o Now you must post that scene.  :o

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Author Craft / Re: Do they exist?
« on: November 10, 2009, 10:33:43 PM »
Almost every rule in writing should end with the phrase ‘…unless you are a genius with a large fan base.’ I may find examples of writers who broke the rule I want to break, but that rarely leads me to successfully breaking it myself. I find they aren’t really rules at all, but instead straightjackets that keep us from hurting ourselves.

Writing a satisfying story in which the view point or main character dies in the end is the sort of straightjacket some much published, genius writers have managed to escape. This isn’t something I would recommend to a beginner writer.

Diary of Anne Frank’? It is definitely her first book, and the view point character dies in the end. There is valid argument as to whether it is a novel or not, but I think that it would be a valuable read in figuring out how to appeal to the audience. 

Spy Who Came In From The Cold’ is a ‘first’* book by an author who has gone on to become very famous. The book won a lot of awards. It’s a very good book to emulate.  John le Carré’s prose got a lot more murky in his later books and, alas, even more of a genius. I was already addicted by then.

How about ‘Flowers for Algernon’? Opps, the Wiki site says that he only regressed back to an IQ of 68. I had been sure he, like the rat, had died from the experimental treatment.

And then there’s Kafka’s ‘Metamorphosis’. The viewpoint character definitely dies and the audience is definitely relieved by it.

And the book with the ending only the soft hearted call ambiguous - Podkayne of Mars.

You also might look at examples where the main character dies in the middle – such as in Dickens’s ‘The Olde Curiosity Shop’. That one is worth reading along with the history regarding the distribution. It sort of puts the Harry Potter craze in historical perspective.

Oh, and the 'Illiad'. Most of the main characters die in it. Most of the rest die in the sequal.

I suppose I can toss in ‘Lovely Bones’. A viewpoint character is dead all the way through it, and even has her death scene. Again – genius.

* All the published writers I know have 6 to 12 manuscripts in a bottom drawer somewhere. Their ‘first’ novel is almost always merely the first that was publishable. It could be that by writing this story you are filling up the required space in that bottom drawer so that another, future, book is made possible. This is a GOOD thing.

In the end, stick to the golden straightjacket of writing - “Always write the book you need to write.”



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Author Craft / Re: NaNoWriMo anyone?
« on: November 10, 2009, 07:23:41 AM »
I'm a quarter of the way through and my main character's mother has 4 names. It seems I kept forgetting what I'd called her and invented a new one each time she came in.

This is a new record for me. Last time it was only 3 different names for the same character after the whole month of writing. On the other hand, I had three different characters with the same name in that one, too.

I should take up drinking. I need an excuse for errors like that.

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Author Craft / Re: NaNoWriMo anyone?
« on: November 09, 2009, 09:38:12 PM »
Ok -
7,000 words in one sitting is good.
7,000 words at 3:00 AM Monday morning and having to get up for work at 6:00 AM is not good.

Drated Muse.


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Author Craft / Re: Publisher vs Vanity Press vs e Publish
« on: November 04, 2009, 02:05:30 AM »
There are a lot of unethical publishers out there. The media (Paper vs. Pixels) doesn’t make much of a difference.  Start with reading these:
http://www.invirtuo.cc/prededitors/
http://www.sfwa.org/for-authors/writer-beware/
http://misssnark.blogspot.com/ (Yes, I know it isn’t being updated any more – read it anyway)

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Author Craft / Re: NaNoWriMo anyone?
« on: November 03, 2009, 06:26:22 AM »
Up at 5975 now, although it's after midnight so I guess that's day three.

Here's my synopsis -
Lillianna successfully thwarts what she imagines is the first step to a forced marriage, but in doing so, destroys the lives of the man she seduces and the woman who loves him. She is banished from her family’s metropolitan estate to live with an aunt in an austere academic community. Her narcissist attitudes erode as she’s caught in the intrigues surrounding unimaginably ancient artifacts and first contact with galactic civilization.

Favorite line today -
Lillianna slumped back in her chair. “People get really over excited about such little things.”


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Author Craft / Re: NaNoWriMo anyone?
« on: November 02, 2009, 04:16:42 AM »
Unauthorized Autobiography

heh! That would be a cool title!

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Author Craft / Re: the belial.1980 & other NaNoWriMo authors...
« on: November 02, 2009, 01:17:22 AM »
*snip*
 And I never understood that amazing research tool---the cow with a window.  Yes, necessary, but I really didn't need to know that!
So, this is where we fit in Defenestration? That sounds... messy?



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Author Craft / Re: the belial.1980 & other NaNoWriMo authors...
« on: October 29, 2009, 05:29:03 PM »
Ok - That's 10!

1.   Sinople (Neurovore)
2.   Gastroturgy (Kris_W)
3.   Grallatorial (LizW65)
4.   Infotainment (meg_evonne)
5.   Defenestrate (belial.1980)
6.   Antiquing (Darwinist)
7.   Barry Manilow (Murphy's Stunt Double)
8.   Crowdsourcing (j3nnee)
9.   Masticate (Starbeam)
10.   Formication (LizW65

Anyone want to toss in bonus words?

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Author Craft / Re: the belial.1980 & other NaNoWriMo authors...
« on: October 29, 2009, 05:53:32 AM »
Gastroturgy

Oh, by the way. I dug through some old books to find several interesting words, and kept looking until I found one that did not show up on Google. Evil, evil evil.

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Author Craft / Re: the belial.1980 & other NaNoWriMo authors...
« on: October 29, 2009, 05:49:53 AM »
*evil grin*

Barry Manilow.

Evil, evil, evil.

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Author Craft / Re: the belial.1980 & other NaNoWriMo authors...
« on: October 29, 2009, 04:54:58 AM »
Defenestrate.

In a thread from way back when somebody else on this board--I can't remember who--posted this as their favorite word. It's now one of my favorites as well.  :)
This is one of my favorite words, too. Danged if I know why it's so popular! ;)



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Author Craft / Re: the belial.1980 & other NaNoWriMo authors...
« on: October 28, 2009, 07:47:22 PM »
Gastroturgy

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Author Craft / Re: NaNoWriMo anyone?
« on: October 28, 2009, 07:44:57 PM »
I’m going to do NaNo this year. I’ve gone to a couple pre-writing meetings, met with people over coffee, done some pre-work. I have a title, synopsis, and opening paragraphs. I have a pretty good idea of my main character’s voice, and what several minor characters are like. I’m doing great on the setting!

…and


…and


…and now I have this other idea.

Arg.

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Author Craft / Re: Redefining Established Paranomal Beings
« on: October 27, 2009, 05:45:54 PM »
*snip*
Can anyone point to some good references on how to handle exposition?
Sad truth is the best book on writing you can read is going to be about the 30th book on writing you happen to read. That’s about the point when you realize that you need to take in a multitude of different views on how to write and, from them, select those bits you need for your current project. Your best bet is to haunt used book stores and garage sales and buy every book on writing you can find. Oh, and you have to, like, read them, y’know.

That said –
Read stories that use exposition well. The short stories of O’Henry and Agatha Christi come to mind there. I’ll also add Kim Newman and Simon R. Green are good counter-examples – Brilliant books with less emphasis on exposition.

Screen writing books tend to focus on structure and are a good place to looks for the nuts and bolts of exposition. I like –
 – Screenwriter’s Bible by David Trottier
 – Save the Cat by Blake Snyder

Books on editing tend to cover exposition well
 – The Elements of Editing by Arthur Plotnik
 – Simple & Direct by Jacques Barzun

Don’t sweat the exposition during your first draft. The exposition is one of those things easiest to work on in third or fourth drafts because you won’t know what the reader needs to know until you have the whole shape of the story down. In fact, much of your best exposition work will be written in response to editing letters after your book is sold.

Best of luck!


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