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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 20, 2020, 10:33:31 PM »
Think of titanic bronze as magical super kevlar that can withstand almost every physical or magic forces aside from divine or infernal powers, it may or may not have boosted resistance if weared by stronger than Harry, but on its own it's near invicible

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DF Spoilers / Re: New Dresden Files podcast interview.
« on: December 20, 2020, 02:23:01 AM »
Demonreach Warden is outside of Winter Knight's mantle jurisdiction

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 20, 2020, 02:21:23 AM »
Yup, that was the celestial bit, but though the Holy Sword could penetrate, he was a mere human Holy Knight.  So she shook him off.
Yeah he didn't hurt her much, but that chink in the armor --even though the armor didn't become useless because not much of its integrity was lost-- meant her arm was exposed.
Odin exploited that fact with accurate strike using the rest of his power, so Sanya's success in penetrating it became the vital turning point for the fight against Ethniu. She became an injured Titan instead of just tired one inside an intact armor.

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DF Spoilers / Re: little apocalypses
« on: December 19, 2020, 11:30:26 PM »
yeah unless it involves more than just wizards & humans, imho it's not apocalypse

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 19, 2020, 11:18:21 PM »
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But was her armor really penetrated?  Basically the heavy hitters went where the armor wasn't.
Sanya's sword went through her armor & drew blood, specifically the arm

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DF Spoilers / Re: little apocalypses
« on: December 19, 2020, 04:26:57 AM »
I don't think White Council will be taken down, it will go through some changes to some other form most probably, but even if it's disbanded there will be wizards who'd come together to build some form of governance or at least alliances, which eventually be another version of White Council.
Besides, Rashid seems like a reaaally hard guy to kill and he supports White Council; there's also unavoidable needs for centralized power nexus to combat truely evil wielders of black magics, like necromancers.

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DF Spoilers / Re: little apocalypses
« on: December 19, 2020, 01:18:21 AM »
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Either way, it is called making a big stink!
Big stinky Apocalypse!

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 19, 2020, 12:36:37 AM »
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Godly is a description my friend. It doesn't require being an actual God. Godly willpower. My point stands as it originally was.
You don't have any point, everything you said was based on your assumptions.

your statements
- without godly willpower it's basically less than bronze -> except the armor was made from a unique alloy of Olympian bronze and mordite, so no, not even close
- godly willpower is a necessary requirement -> no it's not, literally Jim only wrote enough willpower and nothing else had been said about the requirement on wearing it, so when did enough translates to godly?
- lack of knowledge about starborns irrelevant, starborns don't simply possess godly willpower -> what kind of logic is this, we know almost nothing about starborns & you claim you know they don't possess godly willpower, which you said "a description", a.k.a. based on your own interpretation. No one knows what level of willpower Drakul possesses, for instance.

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And? Jim could certainly have Harry wear the armor, it only takes him deciding that the plot needs it.  Why would it need it? I see no use case. WOJ is that he doesn't want Harry too powerful.
oh i don't know, not getting Harry mashed into thin crepe when stuck in a place & situation where mighty beings like Ferrovax & Vadderung combat each other might be a necessity soon, Jim can't have Harry dead before the series end. It doesn't necessarily mean Harry will become too powerful, as that word indicates he became on par with Eb/Mab or others above them, or something like that.

Or even to give a modified armor to Maggie to protect her from mortal dangers in Apocalyptic events.
 
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The armour would probably need to be reforged/repaired for him to use it, and that Knowledge is apparently lost (outside of maybe Ethniu herself).

It wouldn't be much use for Harry in any case, seeing as how he doesn't have much belief in his own invincibility, and that's what makes the Titanic Bronze so strong.

Now, what Harry needs is Armour powered by how invincible others think he is. At this stage, that would be a serious investment.

Power of Friendship Armour>Denial Armour.
well that's what i had in mind, Bob had enough time in close interaction with Ethniu & armor alloy, Ivy has expertise in mordite, he already knows svartalves, Molly knew them even better, he has habit of tinkering with magical stuffs, it's probable all these might give him a chance to create a suited armor for him or Maggie, not a whole body armor, even just arms or chest would be immense advantage from now on until BAT.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 18, 2020, 05:56:13 AM »
The book said the armor is powered by Ethniu's willpower, it doesn't say the godly willpower is necessary to power it, and no line in the Battle Ground supports that assumption.

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“The stuff . . . it affects Creation on a fundamental level,” he said. “As long as it has enough will behind it, the physical world is going to have a very limited effect on her.”
I squinted at the old man. “So as long as she thinks she’s invincible, she is?”
The old man lifted his eyebrows. “Haven’t ever heard it summed up that way before. But, yes, that’s accurate enough for our purposes.”
“Denial armor,” I muttered. “Hell’s bells. So how do we get through it?”

Vadderung said it takes divine status to physically penetrate or destroy the armor, but that does not mean that's the requirement for its wearer.

So unless you can tell me where exactly the idea "godly willpower is necessary to use titanic bronze" was written in BG, there's nothing that suggests that possibility is impossible

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 18, 2020, 01:08:20 AM »
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irrelevant. We know godly willpower is necessary for titanic bronze. We also know they don't simply possess godly willpower. Don't confuse what we don't know with what is already presented.
You're the one who's confusing opinion to relevancy, there's no specific law written about starborn having total immunity to Outsiders' will in early books before Jim said or wrote it.
Who said godly willpower is necessary for titanic bronze? Have we read other beings tried to wear it & couldn't, did Jim ever say it in any event? Definitely not, so that's only an assumption made by you.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 17, 2020, 09:33:46 PM »
No, we don't know if that's necessary for starborns to defy gods or anyone else, that's why they're anomalies

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DF Spoilers / Re: I think Murphy is going to get killed here is why
« on: December 17, 2020, 04:55:14 PM »
Oh boy, this thread is fun to read

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 17, 2020, 05:20:10 AM »
What we do know about starborns, which isn't in great details, is that they're anomaly once every 666 years that can defy Outsiders.

So yes, we literally don't know enough

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 17, 2020, 03:16:33 AM »
It might take a Titan's willpower (or as Harry put it, denial power) for whole body armor, but if it can be broken down to smaller parts, then it could be manageable. Besides, we don't know enough about starborn.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WHat about Bob?
« on: December 17, 2020, 02:05:26 AM »
Bob was the circle that binded Ethniu, he might've gathered information about her physics.

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