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DF Spoilers / Re: Dead Beat Question
« on: November 14, 2018, 08:39:28 PM »
Bob almost certainly knows how to create a dark hallow.  He was, after all, there when the dark hallow ritual was formed.  And by there I mean there on Harry's side (while occupying a dinosaur).   

Harry had him forget the Kemler bits, but that would not apply to the bits he learned while serving Harry.   Also keep in mind that the dark hallow principle was incredibly obvious to the wardens when Harry explained what was going on. It is pretty obvious that Bob could have been equally quick to understand the basic mechanics based off a very quick observation.

The point isn't that Bob knows how after Dead Beat or that Bob could figure it out during Dead Beat. The point is that Bob knew how Kemmler had described the Darkhallow after Harry had ordered Bob to permanently forget his time with Kemmler, limiting Bob to only general knowledge of Kemmler.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dead Beat Question
« on: November 14, 2018, 06:00:29 PM »
  The issue as described by Bob in Dead Beat is, yes Harry ordered Bob to forget what he knew from his years with Kemmler.  However, when Cowl had possession, he could reverse that order.
  So, after the events in Dead Beat Bob undertook to get rid of that knowledge permanently.  He did this be splitting off Evil Bob.  He did not seem to recall doing this, but it must have happened shortly after the end of Dead Beat.

APG

This is the only internally consistent explanation that I can think of. My problem with it is that I don't believe Bob wouldn't have realized he would fall outside of Harry's possession. He's been in the possession of at least two or three* wizards before Harry. I think that it was actually a continuity error that can be explained away.

Maybe splitting Evil Bob off was something that would take time and effort, and Bob hadn't been able to accomplish it when Kumori took possession of him. Having not completed the task, it was interrupted by Cowl's order to help with the Darkhallow. I think that's going be my explanation until something shows otherwise.

*It's been said or implied both that Etienne created the skull sanctum and that it was his skull, as in what housed his brain. I can't remember all the details.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Was the time distortion ever explained?
« on: November 14, 2018, 05:48:06 PM »
"On the queen's level" is interesting.  So it could have been a Walker?

Yes, it may have been. Harry describes the walker in Chapter 43 as not bigger, but deeper than Mab and having power "beyond anything [he] had seen, beyond measure, beyond comprehension-just plain beyond."

On the other hand, the power of the Walker could be sufficiently different that it couldn't have manipulated time at all.

Maeve does something similar after Harry rescues Molly from Arctis Tor.
I think this is what Kringle was referring to and is why I said that it was implied that a Faerie Queen that did it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Was the time distortion ever explained?
« on: November 14, 2018, 03:42:10 AM »
Chapter 42:
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"Who could have done this?" I asked.
"You have encountered this before, wizard," Kringle said. "Can you not guess?"
"One of the Queens," I muttered. "Or someone operating on their level."

That's when time sped up to make sure Dresden and the Hunt got to Demonreach too late.

There's also the temporal shenanigans of the feedback from Demonreach exploding echoing back into the past. That was a consequence of attacking the island.

Bob talk's about that in Chapter 17:
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That tension that's building? It's ... Well, think of it as cause and effect, only backward.
The island is experiencing an effect of the attack before the cause because they have to attack the island through time because it was built through time. Or something like that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Was the time distortion ever explained?
« on: November 14, 2018, 03:23:17 AM »
I think there was an implication that a Faerie Queen was doing it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The maeve story line
« on: November 14, 2018, 03:21:58 AM »
I don't know if you missed it or left it out intentionally, but Maeve picked Slate as Winter Kinght, Maeve wasn't doing her job even before she became infected, and Maeve tried to have Jenny Greenteeth kill Billy and Georgia in Something Borrowed.

Also, it's if/then, not if/than.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dead Beat Question
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:40:06 AM »
That's a stretch, but it's workable. Bit of a retcon.

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DF Spoilers / Dead Beat Question
« on: November 12, 2018, 09:29:48 PM »
How did Bob know how to pull off the Darkhallow?

At the end of Chapter 34, Harry says "Bob used to be Kemmler's" and "Bob knows everything about the theory that Kemmler did." And then, near the end of Chapter 42, Bob says "It is precisely as the master described." But all the way back in Chapter 3, Harry orders Bob to permanently forget those memories. We later learn that Bob has expelled those memories into a separate SoI.

What's going on here? Did Jim make a mistake and have Bob remember something he couldn't? Did Jim make a mistake creating Evil Bob in Ghost Story? Was Bob pretending to know more than he did?

If it was left at Bob is just awesome and could figure out how to do a Darkhallow, that would have been fine. And that's what I said when my brother asked me this question. Then I reread the book after he asked me, with that question existing in my mind. The real problem with that explanation is Bob's quote from Chapter 42.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Red Court/The Eebs question...
« on: November 12, 2018, 09:13:51 PM »
@ peregrine: I was trying to find something that was more specific than just feed to forestall the argument that feeding doesn't necessarily mean biting.

@ Snark Knight: There is a reason I was equivocal with all the may have's.

The reason I've always thought that it was more than just a spell is that the fire behaves weirdly, and it stops Harry's heart. Then Michael beseeches the Lord on Harry's behalf. Michael says "[Harry] deserves better than to die here, Lord!" Then a little later Harry as narrator says "[a]nd then my heart lurched and began to beat again," which could just be a case of CPR standing for "Clean, Pretty, Reliable."

There is a lot of rules inconsistency in the earlier books. This whole scene may be operating under slightly different rules than later in the series, and that explains the oddness of it. Or there is something more going on.

Furthermore, an otherwise healthy wizard might be able to throw a death curse and have a doctor on standby to get them going again. We don't know and neither do wizards. Luccio thought her wound was fatal, but a doctor who doesn't actually practice medicine, let alone trauma surgery in the field, was able to keep her from dying.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Red Court/The Eebs question...
« on: November 11, 2018, 04:17:10 AM »
So did Harry.  So a nibble isn't sufficient.  And while reading this, I found a crossover with another thread.  Harry dies and creates a ghost of himself,  So Vadderung should have said that Harry came back from death twice. :)

It may have been three times. After he burns everybody at the party, Michael is doing chest compressions on him. I've always thought that spell may have been a death curse, and Michael brought him back.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's lack of research
« on: November 10, 2018, 12:39:10 AM »
I am thinking that Margaret let Eb in on her plans to create a star child with Malcolm.

Here is some WoJ:
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At what time did Ebenezer know that Harry existed, and does he know that Thomas is his grandson.
Not until it was too late.  Not till after Justin’s death that he was able to find out.  As far as Thomas, Stay Tuned.

This doesn't mean that Eb didn't know Maggie was planning on having children with Malcolm, but it does mean that he didn't know that Maggie was pregnant. When Maggie died, Eb didn't know to go looking for Harry to keep an eye on him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Red Court/The Eebs question...
« on: November 10, 2018, 12:32:06 AM »
@morriswalters: They do feed repeatedly on people. Justine had puncture marks from being fed on when she was crazy in Bianca's basement with Harry. I've always assumed them to be bite marks.

The mechanics of how the Reds turn people has always been vague. From Grave Peril:
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"I think they're turning some of them," Thomas said. "Bianca has the authority to allow it, now."

So I'm not sure if this is correct:
It's important to remember that unlike the Blacks, very few of the Red Court could actually Breed and create more Rampires.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Red Court/The Eebs question...
« on: November 09, 2018, 07:01:21 PM »
It is children, siblings or parents of anyone targeted.   If my parents are dead, it does not sound like it would jump automatically to grandparents. 

It did jump Bianca, Ortega, and Ariana to get the Red King.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's lack of research
« on: November 09, 2018, 06:56:47 PM »
I read that portion of Blood Rites last night and considered what Ebeneezer meant. He says "soul," and he says "seen."

The narrator is Harry, who isn't at his best in that moment, so we don't know if Ebeneezer meant "Seen" or "seen." Jim often capitalizes sight, saw, seen, and such when talking about a soul gaze or wizard's sight. I'm not sure if Jim ever uses the lower case in that context.

This specific passage is very ambiguous and open to interpretation.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's lack of research
« on: November 09, 2018, 04:45:52 AM »
The problem with Bonea is that she has no understanding of the knowledge she has. She probably won't realize what's important, related, or relevant most of the time.

Like most children, getting her to help out on various things will be more about teaching her than getting any actual help from her.

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